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I’m gonna guess the dame reason we have big knuckles/fists and men have facial hair. Fighting.
Chimps fight way worse than humans.
You gotta
throwfling your feces at them.They fight differently, we like to punch.
Stop fighting chimps
I told them to break it up, but they didn’t. How else can I de-escalate? I’m mostly trained in bonobo conflict resolution.
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How is facial hair beneficial in fighting?
As in a signal of how manly a man truly is, comparative to still being a boy.
Edit: also, hair is counter productive in a fight, because it gives your opponent something to grab a hold of and use against you.
It’s neither beneficial nor an inherent detriment.
It doesn’t provide enough padding to matter for anything, and the dangers of it bring grabbed are vastly exaggerated (been doing martial arts and grappling in one form or another since jr high, if you count a little wresting then, so over thirty years with breaks here and there, and bearded the entire adult time).
At best, blows will slide more and cut less, but not enough to really matter. At worst, having it grabbed hurts, which can be a bad distraction, but it isn’t so sturdy as to not be easy to escape. It either pulls loose if their grip is bad, pulls out if their grip is good enough, or makes sure their hands are easy to reach, and allows you an easy access inside their reach.
Every little pro has a con, and vice versa, with none of it being a deciding factor.
A ponytail is worse, and a braid worse than that.
Besides, anyone with a beard that isn’t just full mountain man is going to be oiling or otherwise treating their beard. This makes bare handed grips next to useless on them. And if you’re in a full contact sparring session, you’ll have other options to keep it from being a horrible thing.
Seriously. I have never once been tapped out because of my beard. I’ve never had any idiot during my years as a bouncer be successful in using it against me. Now, I have had to trim or shave it back because of having wads of it snatched out, but that’s still a very minor issue compared to the other things that can happen in a fight.
If anything, the fact that people tend to have this weird reaction to a big, bearded guy compared to just a big guy, you get in less fights in my experience outside of training or a job. Going places with a full beard, even drunks wouldn’t fuck with me the way they would other big guys. There’s a bit of some kind of reaction where people think a beard = tough sometimes. No clue why, just that it’s often enough to have noticed.
Its essentially padding to protect ur face
But you ask anyone who knows anything about fighting and the first thing they tell you to do is to cut your hair short because it’s just an easy handle to grab on to.
When you’re fighting human, sure, but our mane probably evolved before we were our own greatest predator.
I like how people downvoted you on this. As if facial hair somehow evolved after recorded history.
I read somewhere sometime ago that the theory that makes the most sense is that we evolved chins to take a punch, which animals besides our immediate evolutionary relatives do not do.
So we evolved chins as an evolutionary advantage over our immediate evolutionary relatives who would logically be competing for the same resources.
The chin would act as a lever no? The longer the chin the harder your brain is shaken.
I read something at some point about how our fists seemed to have evolved or at least adapted to be well suited to delivering a punch. Many people do not use proper hand forms for it, but I suppose it’s a learned skill if not at least through trial and error.
Great, now I have a scenario in my head where one early human delivers a punch and dies of having not the right hands and the other dies because no chin. Also: Imagine our fists if there had been more habsburgs.
Duh it’s where.our chin horn used to be…
Well, you can’t take it on the chin if you don’t have one I suppose.
Aliens
Peak humanity
The New Chad
The “spandrel hypothesis” is the front runner explanation. Essentially we didn’t evolve to have chins but rather evolved other things that are helpful, and the chin is a byproduct of that other evolution. Not harmful so it didn’t get selected away, but not helpful.
But chin is one of the points determining attractivity in males?
If you’re perpetually online, maybe? The only time you should give a shit about your chin is if you have an abnormally absent one. Like Andrew Tate for example.
so yes?
Would you mate with somebody who didn’t have a chin? Chins are sexy.
Same as boobs, Human female breasts are mainly sexual, they are too large for babies to feed.
I’m Asian and this is not true for my breasts, tyvm
I’m sorry, but this isn’t correct, adult human females have breasts to hide when they are in estrus, by always being swollen, it’s called hidden estrose, it’s a whole thing. This has a lot of data backing it up. I KNOW I’M SPELLING IT WRONG! PROOFREADING IS THE LAST RETREAT OF COWARDS!!!
they are too large for babies to feed.
Then it seems I must have seen some of them fake it really convincingly for some reason.
I refuse to believe that someone is dumb enough to actually believe this.
What? No other mammal has breasts like human females, and they are full of touch senses unlike other. They are clearly part of human sexuality.
Elephants do for a start.
did you have a stroke and forget the second part of your comment?
I’m pretty sure they did.
Why are chins sexy?
Because they make people want to mate with you
Why do they make people want to mate with me?
Because they’re sexy. We’ve been over this.
Because otherwise you might be mating with a Neanderthal.
By DNA analysis that was completely on the table till they went extinct.
No “till”, plenty of living beings have vestigial elements that were positive at some point of their history, yet no longer are, but are still maintained because there isn’t evolutionary pressure to get rid of them.
“They” was towards neanderthals not vestigial elements. They are extinct.
Homo Sapiens develop a mutation XYZ that makes them not be attracted towards Neanderthals -> Neanderthals go extinct -> XYZ is NOW vestigial.
The genes were from Neanderthals not to make them unattractive and they’re also not vestigial. One is a very common gene related to blood clotting and can cause a higher risk of heart disease.
In other words, humans were fucking Neanderthals and we know it because of DNA. If they had never gone extinct it is without question the boinking would have continued.
Useful in fighting as it helps protect the lower jaw and teeth?
But then again, it could simply be a trait we have developed over the millennia, and there is no deeper meaning to it.
Yet again proving Chads are the pinnacle of evolution
Everything alive today is the pinnacle of evolution.
A chihuahua is not a pinnacle of anything.
Dude, don’t disparage the chihuahua. They’re the pinnacle of anxiety; something many of us can relate with.
Otherwise we couldn’t chin up.
I figure walking upright made being hit from below more common, necessitating thicker bones to protect the very sensitive nerves of the jaw.
This is why it bothers me when artists add chins to animalistic characters. It looks so wrong. An example:
Like, shit. Cool character design but you gave the cat lady a chin. Cats don’t have chins, why did you give her a chin?
They don’t have opposable thumbs, go into night clubs, walk bipedally or have those wing things either, why is it the chin that bothers you?
That character is mostly a cat skinned human.
Many animals, including most felids and canids, have a fifth toe (aka dew claw), which could potentially evolve into a thumb. You don’t normally see it on domestic dogs though, because if I’m not mistaken, it usually gets cut off when they’re a puppy due to it being weak and having a tendency to get caught on things.
Alternatively, there is polydactylism in cats, which can give them extra toes that can help them grab things (I’ve seen a video of a polydactyl cat using it’s extra foretoe like a thumb, though I can’t find it). It seems possible that, overtime, an extra foretoe like that might eventually provide enough of a evolutionary benefit for it to become a standard feature.
If cats evolved human-like intelligence, they’d absolutely have night clubs of some kind. That said, I’m not convinced that cats don’t already have human-like intelligence and aren’t just choosing to not use it, but that’s beside the point.
Walking bipedally is something a lot of smaller mammals can do as well, it just isn’t their normal mode of locomotion because their bodies aren’t currently designed for it. Going the evolution route again, however, and it’s possible that a species might eventually decide to stand up like humans did. Edit: I forgot about birds, dinosaurs and semi-bipedal mammals like the pangolin. Birds and pre-historic theropods walked on two legs, and pangolins have heavy tails they can use to balance on their hind legs so their forelegs are free to dig at ant mounds. So humans aren’t the only animals that walk on two legs.
The wing things are part of her clothing.
You’re correct that being bothered by a chin alone is strange, but,
A) people have weird things that bother them, sometimes illogically
B) I kinda look at anthropomorphic animals as being evolved from their real world counterparts, so I tend to rationalize things in regards to how they might have evolved. It makes it more believable for me.
C) iirc, in the context of the movie that specific character is from, thats actually someone’s VR avatar. As such, it makes sense to make human concessions like opposable thumbs, five fingers and toes (cats technically have five toes on each forepaw, four toes on each hind paw), walking plantigrade, etc. A chin seems like an odd concession to make. From the article, it doesn’t really give humans any really evolutionary advantage so it’s not like you’re gonna be unable to do something because you don’t have a chin; and based on what I’ve seen in the furry community, chins on anthros doesn’t really seem to have much of an aesthetic appeal either (otherwise nearly every fursona would have an obvious chin).
D) It just looks weird. Idk man, it just looks weird to me.
That said, I don’t tend to mind hybrids or mythical creatures like gryphons, dragons, dragon-cats, or whatever, so idk. It just looks weird to me and I guess the thing about humans being the only ones with chins is a explanation and justification for why I find it weird-looking.
You answered your own question in your own question. Cats could potentially evolve a chin just like they could evolve an opposable thumb
That’s a lot of words just to try and justify posting a picture from your furry porn collection.
Burn it.
Isn’t the point of this art to be an anthropomorphic cat? In that case, the chin is appropriate
except, as you can see, it makes them look terrifying, not like a cat.
you want khajiit, not Cats 2019
I see a chin on my cat?
You see a chin area yes, but it is simply the bottom of the jaw. The human chin has actual muscle that goes below the jaw bone and can be moved ever so slightly which aids in facial expression.
As bigfig said, your cat probably doesn’t have a chin. That said, you might consider feeling your cat’s chin to see if it’s actually a chin and not just fluff or something.
If you feel a boney protrusion similar to a human’s chin, then you should unironically contact an evolutionary researcher. They might be fascinated about your cat having an actual chin as humans and only humans (not even neanderthals) are the only known chin-havers. Who knows, your cat might be the “missing link” between chinned and chinless humanoids.
I scratch my cats chin all the time. What are you on about?
Jaw vs chin, I’m guessing the difference is fairly small.
Looked at wiki. The chin apparently is just the part of bone that juts out under the lower lip. So yeah, no chin on the cat.
Call me shane dawson because I wanna put my dick near this cat.
lmao
I believe in not kink shaming, but that’s just TMI
Why does it look like she has nipple piercings that couldn’t be contained.
Thanks, new kink unlocked.
You’re complaining about a chin on an anthropomorphic cat woman that only has 2 breast’s instead of 6 to 8…
Based and put-more-titties-on-that-cat pilled
So humans are also the only animal that can hear chin music?
Huh, I figured it was to protect the throat since we don’t have fur.
