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        Who said I ever signed into Google?

        This phone has never been signed into any accounts on the Android OS level, I’ve never activated location services, and I don’t even have a SIM card.

        I run WiFi only, with alternate app stores and the ability to transfer apps from one phone to another by copying APK installer files.

        Not every Android user is totally stuck to Google.

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            There are alternate apps and services that don’t depend on Google. I’m responding from one such service right now.

            I’ve also been using the same TextNow number since 2016. You know, VOIP WiFi phone service? I even debugged the TextNow app back in 2016, they’re actually damn glad to have me as a regular free user.

            There are ways to both maintain privacy, and also use your device at the same time.

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            How can I be a product when they can’t figure out who I am or where I’m at?

            Again, I never signed into Google in the first place.

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        This is generally true, but no more than what you do with an iPhone to Apple. Except with the iPhone Apple decides how much, where on Android you can prevent giving data to Google to the degree you wish.
        There is no doubt Android phones have more freedom than iPhone. It’s not even reasonably debatable.

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          on Android you can prevent giving data to Google to the degree you wish.

          Assuming your phone allows it. Not every phone is rootable or has an unlocked bootloader.

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      I was wondering why you were downvoted, until I saw the name of the sub.
      Apple users are definitely in a cage, but apparently they won’t even acknowledge it.
      I’m not saying the phones aren’t good otherwise, but using Apple is an obvious sacrifice of digital freedom.

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        Just stating the truth, where the truth should be heard no less. The sheeple will never fully realize they’re sheeple if nobody says anything…

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          You can’t argue someone out of a position they didn’t argue themselves into.

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            Hey, if I stated that on an Android community, I’m sure I’d get quite a few upvotes. But that’s not accomplishing anything now is it, that’s like talking into an echo chamber.

            I don’t expect much of any upvotes for my comment, but it’s the truth. I can’t help it if Apple users don’t like hearing the truth. 🤷‍♂️

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        100% I was one of those hardcore Apple fanboys until I realised it’s turning into a cult. I stopped defending and criticising Apple and it’s policies a long time ago, even though I use iPhone and android.

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        It really depends on the user. I mainly use iPhone, but there are definitely some odd limitations here and there. I’m glad Android exists to provide some alternative.

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      Most Apple users want the “cage” for its near-mindless security and privacy. I used to troubleshoot and diagnose PCs all day. I got tired of managing my HTC Windows phone in 2008 and went to iPhone. It’s similar to running Windows Home for the smaller attack surface than Pro, or trading admin for user rights. I love not having to worry about the reliability, privacy, or security maintenance of my daily driver.

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      Yeah well because Apple doesn’t allow JIT compilation, so the performance would’ve sucked anyway.

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          Not really… I have tried it before on an m1 iPad. It is not usable for any windows version. XP for example takes over 15 minutes just to boot. It takes multiple seconds for clicks to register, etc.

          Linux, like Debian for example, will be much more usable, but still far from anything you would call a smooth experience.

          Again, not having JIT really kills the performance here.

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              because its not about jit per se, its about marking pages of memory as executable. doesn’t matter whether you compile it or load it from disk, you need to mark the memory as executable so the cpu will run it, and that isnt something “normal” ios apps are allowed to do.

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              Because ARM is not the same as ARM. Windows arm does not natively run on an Apple M1 Processor and MacOS does not run on a raspberry pi.

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      #1 reason I stick with PCs. Apple deciding that it knows best and deciding how users get to use their machines thanks to the Apple walled garden.

      Windows would like to catch up, but thankfully you’re still free to completely break it if you want.

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        I thought it was “it’s” as it’s a possessive apostrophe?

        The policies are Apple’s, so it’s would be an appropriate substitution, no?

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              Ya, but the community is literally called apple enthusiast. You don’t sound like an enthusiast if you hate the brand and don’t use it.

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                I got this on the front page, I don’t need to be an apple apologist to see the news. If you don’t want non fanboys, tell your admin to disallow it there

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                You can be an enthusiast and still be able to criticise. Apple has changed a lot over the years, and not always for the better.

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                It is possible I think to enjoy a company’s products without defending everything the company does, especially not the things that benefit the company at the expense of the owners of said products

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            Nobody cares who you block. Go ahead and block me. I used to have plenty of apple stuff in the past and have none now because they charge a premium for something that they barely change with each “new” iphone that comes out.

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        I have a Mac at work, and apple trying to control what people does with their devices is stupid and they should be shamed for it.

        Checkmate!

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    However, as it stands, UTM is not proceeding to contest the ruling. As apps distributed on iOS cannot use a JIT compiler (other than specially entitled alternative browser engines), the functionality and performance of the emulators running through UTM SE, the version submitted for review that had JIT disabled, was significantly impaired. UTM says getting UTM SE approved “isn’t worth fighting for”.

    Oh. Well okay then.