• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    ‘ban masks’ - hilarious how libs pretend to care about covid when it was Biden that ‘ended’ it (along with all the payouts to people)

    Stop being genocidal demons (and apologizing for them) and maybe people will be able to tell the parties apart.

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      Funny that you equate masks with COVID when it wasn’t even mentioned. Masks aren’t only for COVID prevention, you know?

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        Cool, there’s still plenty of covid out there, my issue is with how the Biden regime “ended” covid with plenty of cases still out there, because it was politically convenient to do so.

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      The infrastructure bill is ridiculously big, but also:

      Make trans people illegal
      Ban anything that’s not “choose one” voting
      Absurd gerrymandering
      Trying to overturn elections
      Deficit inducing tax cuts for the mega-rich
      Trying to kill social security
      Dictator for a day
      Arguing the president can have political rivals assassinated
      Trying to kill the post office
      Trying to kill the IRS
      Intentionally putting in incompetent leaders
      Giving state secrets to Russia
      Trying to hand Ukraine over to Russia

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          Lol, bad phrasing, you know what I meant. If we stop supporting Ukraine Russia will be their owners.

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        Right, there’s a much better pool of things for juxtaposition. Though most of that is stuff Republicans have done since long before MAGA. A couple are a little too bipartisan.

        Nonetheless I am glad the reclassification of Marijuana was announced yesterday to complete the list.

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          I’m pretty happy about the passenger rail expansions myself.

          The cap on overdraft fees is also nice.

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            I wouldn’t be too excited about the passenger rail expansion without diving further into it. Basically, the bulk of the HSR funding is being given to a private company with a bad track record. It will be another Amtrak situation in a decade or less once again (also suggest diving into the history of Amtrak and why it came to be).

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              i think we need to dissolve amtrak honestly. Legally mandate that a rail company cannot own anything outside of state bounds.

              Force them to cooperate, it’ll make them less miserable.

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                Amtrak is actually a government program that helped save passenger rail after it became unsustainable with the private companies. It’s a fascinating history that they simply don’t teach the general populace.

                In October 1970, Congress passed, and President Richard Nixon signed into law, the Rail Passenger Service Act.[26] Proponents of the bill, led by the National Association of Railroad Passengers (NARP), sought government funding to ensure the continuation of passenger trains. They conceived the National Railroad Passenger Corporation (NRPC), a quasi-public corporation that would be managed as a for-profit organization, but which would receive taxpayer funding and assume operation of intercity passenger trains.[7][27][28]

                There were several key provisions:[29]

                • Any railroad operating intercity passenger service could contract with the NRPC, thereby joining the national system.
                • The United States federal government, through the Secretary of Transportation, would own all of the NRPC’s issued and outstanding preferred stock.[30]
                • Participating railroads bought into the NRPC using a formula based on their recent intercity passenger losses. The purchase price could be satisfied either by cash or rolling stock; in exchange, the railroads received NRPC common stock.
                • Any participating railroad was freed of the obligation to operate intercity passenger service after May 1, 1971, except for those services chosen by the Department of Transportation (DOT) as part of a “basic system” of service and paid for by NRPC using its federal funds.
                • Railroads that chose not to join the NRPC system were required to continue operating their existing passenger service until 1975, at which time they could pursue the customary ICC approval process for any discontinuance or alteration to the service.

                Of the 26 railroads still offering intercity passenger service in 1970, only six declined to join the NRPC.[31]

                The original working brand name for NRPC was Railpax, but less than two weeks before operations began, the official marketing name was changed to Amtrak, a portmanteau of the words America and trak, the latter itself a sensational spelling of track.

                source

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              Nooooo :( if I were American dictator I would just say fuck it and build a mag-lev network that averaged 250 from station to station.

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                or just do any of the many examples that the rest of the world is successful with. HSR in America isn’t actually High speed rail anyways

                Amtrak’s Acela is the United States’ only true high-speed rail service, reaching 150 mph (240 km/h) over 49.9 mi (80.3 km) of track along the Northeast Corridor.[2] Acela trains will reach top speeds of 160 mph (255 km/h) when new trainsets enter service in 2024.[3] Other services, like Amtrak’s Northeast Regional and Brightline, have a top speed of 125 mph (200 km/h) and are usually not considered high-speed rail.

                Brightline, while marketing itself as high-speed rail, more closely meets the definition of higher-speed rail. Despite having a top speed of 125 mph (201 km/h) along 20 mi (32 km) of newly built track, most of the route is limited to a top speed of 110 mph (180 km/h) due to the presence of grade crossings.[4] link

                Brightline is the company which received the funding for the California-Nevada HSR, it’s a public company that’s already coming under scrutiny for their practices and costs vs their projections. I guess I need to do a write-up to link to whenever the HSR comes up with the infrastructure bill.

                edit: forgot to add link for the wiki I was referencing.

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                  Yeah but a 250 average mag-lev is already possible from a technical standpoint. The Chinese and the Japanese have trains that can do it. Almost certainly the Chinese stole their design from the Japanese, but whatever. Plus, with that minimum it makes an overnight trip across the country extremely reasonable, and it makes a lot of medium day trips possible too. For example, Denver to Chicago would be only 4 hours.

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    Fucking pro democrat propaganda is rampant lately. Anyone who dares to criticize the hillary clinton party is immediately a fascist. Your two party system is broken and this election is only a symptom.

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      Your two party system is broken

      We know this, but that doesn’t prevent voting blue from being the best route to changing it

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        How many times they had the presidency and the congress and haven’t changed shit? They don’t want to improve your politics because they ate all rich fucks who got rich off of your hard work.

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          How many times they had the presidency and the congress and haven’t changed shit?

          In the past two decades? Maybe 4 years total, less than that. And Congress was on a razor edge margin last time.

          The first time was under Obama and we got the ACA, which forced health insurance to cover cancer patients (who were kicked off in the middle of treatment before).

          The second time was just recently where we got all the Biden Administration accomplishments listed in this chat. Infrastructure. IRS funding for wealthy tax cheats. Cheaper prescription drugs. Weed. The list goes on.

          What’s that? You weren’t genuinely asking? You actually don’t know or care about any of this? Ok cool…

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        Voting blue is the best route to maintain it. It’s likely it would get worse under Trump, sure, but the Democrats have no material interests in going against their donors.

        Outside pressure gets change.

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    It doesn’t matter what Democrats do (or attempt in a politically hostile environment that tries to sabotage anything and everything they do), the bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe assholes will ignore it, or flip it and force-jam it into their always lazy, cynical and oh-so-savvy, mediocre narrative.

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    R doesn’t even take legislative action that helps their own voters. Meanwhile, all the shit they fight against Dems doing would help plenty of R voters, too. Their entire platform is taking things away from people, culture wars, vilification of education, and making voting as difficult as possible.

    If you are voting R at this point, it can be for no reason other than one or more of these labels applies to you: Bigot, Unrepentant Misogynist, or can’t think any further than your own team winning.

    Pic unrelated, because they didn’t just allow, they helped. They insisted.

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    How is abortion helping society? Can’t afford a baby? Don’t have intercourses. Masturbate, porn, tantra, condoms, pill contraceptives

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      How is abortion helping society?

      It provides a safe and effective means for women to terminate unwanted pregnancies.

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        Unwanted pregnancies comes from volountary actions as i already stated. Being less bitchy contributes to society. Giving away unwanted children through foster helps society. Not killing babies and selling the parts to military and pharmaceutical complexes so they can research ethnobioweapons. Safe, dig more you will discover it is not safe as many using abortion practices become sterile, effective, dig more and you will discover that many of the cancers now women fights stems from abortion practices.

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      I wish. There is no reason a country’s leadership should be exciting or dramatic. Get on with doing your job

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      They are trying to undo agency la wholesale. As in completely remove all corporate and industrial regulations through removal of the EPA, FAA, FDA, USDA, ect. Through plan 2025 they will undo life as we know it and send us back to the beginning of the labor movement in America.

      The Republican mentality is that the constitution should be the sole governing document of America. No government agencies or regulation. It’s an unhinged, uneducated plan that will kill us all.

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        It’s an unhinged, uneducated plan that will kill us all.

        Didn’t you mean to say it will make us GREAT again??? Lol

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        Not even the constitution. They literally break or say that “it was a mistake” for a majority of the constitution and pay judges to twist the meaning to fit their corporate donors’ wishes.

        They literally want corporate feudalism where the only laws are those made by daddy corpo.

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    WTF is the deal with US states banning masks? Are they going to ban washing your hands next?

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      US conservatives turn EVERYTHING into a culture war.

      It gets their base riled up and to the poles polls. They would very much like it if non-conservatives would stay home or vote third party.

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      They’ll ban toilet paper and cleaning up after you go. Touching your ass is so gay

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      Are they going to ban washing your hands next?

      Washing your hands removes vital oils used by forensics to identify you at a crime scene.

      /s

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        “if you haven’t committed a crime then you have nothing to worry about!”

        -some republican who has committed a litany of crimes

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        It’s also bad for the children, somehow… I don’t need to explain how, because they won’t when they say this to convince everyone.

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      My state has a bunch of people who would outright get aggressive with you in public over it. “What’s with that chin diaper? Take that shit off.”

      Of course the people voted in by these aggressors are going to ban them.

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      The non quippy answer:

      Wearing masks other than theatrical or things like Halloween masks was prohibited in many places prior to covid.
      Some places were explicitly anti protest from the 1900s (unions), others anti hate crime (KKK). Some just had it as a thing that can be tacked on to other crimes. My state has a law that makes it a misdemeanor to wear a mask to conceal your identity while commiting a crime.
      These laws are not unique to the US.

      When covid came along, most states that had restrictions passed laws adding exceptions for health related face coverings.

      In response to people protesting Israeli actions in Palestine, North Carolina repealed their relaxation of the mask rules, and refused to add a health clause, arguing that even though it’s illegal, it was illegal before covid and just never enforced, so it’s fine.
      They also included an exception that allows for secret societies to wear masks or hoods in a parade or demonstration if they have a permit. That’s the KKK in a nutshell.

      It’s preposterous bullshit intended to work as an election year headline grabber, since it’s anti mask, anti protester, and pro Israel all at once.

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      Not joking… There was a trend of “manly men” not washing their hands before they eat lunch… like after their manly work was done … Like hands covered in muck and they’re like “look how awesome I am.”. It’s fucking gross

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    Two of the three of these feel like nothing in the face of our broken healthcare industry. Mind you these 1/300th steps ARE THE COMPROMISE.

    Id like to see meaningful change before I die pls. This rate wont cut it.

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        There’s a bit of a pattern of half-measures here.

        Like, the last time democrats had the executive and legislature, we got the Affordable Healthcare Act – which, yeah did help some people. But didn’t change any of the underlying rot in our healthcare - 12 years on, we’re still having the same conversations about the same problems.

        Vote, it’s the least that can be done. But don’t kid yourself about what that does. Our problems require far more, far more citizen participation and far more work than merely voting.

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          You can’t do something radical when there’s a very real chance of losing the next election. C’mon, this is easy.

          So how do you convince them they have leeway? By them consistently winning.

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            Are you certain of that? In a country where half of the population consistently, chronically, for decades, doesn’t vote?

            Every election brings with it the chance of loosing. Seems to me that something radical is what tips the scales. What gets that checked out population to sit up and take notice. Play too conservatively (with a lowercase ‘c’), and they stay checked out.

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              Am I certain that consistent, overwhelming victories for say 20 years will mean that they can implement policies that are further left? Fucking yes. Come the fuck on.

              You win elections from the center. The center (the Overton window) moves by who wins elections over time. This is why we’re having idiotic right wing discussions about disbanding the EPA - because Trump won an election. He won one, so the whole spectrum moved right. If he hadn’t won, we wouldn’t be having these discussions. C’mon this is so fucking easy.

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                No, no, I have been assured that 90% of the American electorate is secretly super far-left and just waiting for someone who is Radical Enough for their tastes.

                Definitely it’s not that when you speak to average American voters, even the leftmost 20% looks like a fucking conservative compared to the Fediverse.

                No, it’s that they’re Just Waiting.

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                The Overton window is a cultural measurement, not a tally of recent political victories. It is a range determined by our media and our history, the sum of what people talk and think about, what they experience in the political economic and artistic worlds. It is a crude way of describing what is collectively believed to be possible. The spectrum doesn’t just shift to the right because “conservatives won”, it shifted to the right before Trump won – that’s how he was able to win. And the preceding administration played a big role in that shift.

                After the recession, people felt like they had been left behind. The banks and the auto manufactures got a huge bailout, but there was very little help for the individuals and families caught in the downturn. Nearly all the economic growth through the recovery was happening for top earners, not median households. People’s lived experiences didn’t match the story of recovery that was described in the news and by politicians…

                …which is why Trump’s victory caught so many established Democrats off guard. They didn’t notice the window shift, they thought it was still the same place it was four years ago when Obama won his second term.

                …with everything that has happened recently, I have this dreadful sense of the familiar. Young people see lives being taken in Palestine and are angry. Old people see us lurching toward another conflict in the Middle East and are weary. Everyone is grumbling about the price of groceries. Democratic leadership keeps insisting that things are fine and actually getting better. Does that seem like a recipe for consistent, overwhelming victory?

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                  Dude this is so simple. Where is the Overton window because of Trump’s victory? It’s fucking off the cliff right because of Trump’s victory. There are conversations taking place now that would have been unimaginable before Trump won. And they are taking place because Trump won.

                  We can even play the hypothetical. Where would it be if Hillary Clinton won? Fucking easy, it would be further left. Or the hypothetical what it Trump won a second term? Fucking easy again, it would be even further right - because all his rhetoric would be backed up with wins that this is what the people want.

                  To talk like the Overton window is not affected by election wins is sticking your head in the sand. It’s literally a referendum on what is and what is not acceptable policy and talking points be it social, economic, thinly belief racism, everything. This is so fucking easy to see.

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          Yeah it did help some people? It still continues to help a bunch of people and was change so impactful that now, Even republican voters don’t want it repealed.

          Half measures is the only thing Democrats can pass with the limited power that they have. That didn’t even have a full 2 years in control of the executive and legislative branch when the ACA was passed, with some Democrats being very conservative. the only way to get the law passed was by getting all members to agree, including the most conservative Members. The public option in particular was one of the things removed from the ACA because of conservative dissent.

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            Yeah it did help some people?

            It helped insurance companies. The uninsured rate is super low these days but tons of people still can’t afford premiums and our of pocket costs and skip healthcare anyway

            with some Democrats being very conservative

            And whenever people try to call out conservative Democratic party members for screwing things up they get shouted down in comment threads just like these

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      Lemme guess - the state’s representation is gerrymandered six ways from Sunday, all the people who could possibly be Democratic voters were tossed off the rolls about 30 minutes before the vote, and there’s only one ballot drop off point in the biggest urban area. Right?

      Did they also outlaw giving out water in long voting lines too? Cause that one’s extra special.

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    Yooo remember when the Economy crashed in 2008 and Obama totally didn’t bail out the banks like the Republicans?

    Me neither lol blue maga all the way boys!

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        The only one taking him seriously is himself, everyone else knows he’s an idiot.

        Take note of it’s name, you’ll see it around.

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      Barack Hussein Obama II (born August 4, 1961) is an American politician who served as the 44th president of the United States from 2009 to 2017

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      First off: Bush was President in 2008. The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (the bank bailout that started the Troubled Assets Relief Program) was signed into law on October 3rd, 2008 - 2 months before Obama was elected into office and 4 months before he took office.

      Second: Obama reduced the bailout by over 30% after taking office and the money was spent a little more wisely on reinvestment instead of simply giving the banks free money, which lead us to…

      Third: in the end the government actually profited over 120 billion dollars.

      So, yeah. Democrats handled the economy better. Just like they have since (checks notes) all of modern history.

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        Tankie economics: it’s not Democrats fault! Bush did it! He signed a law a few months ago and as we all know it’s impossible to overturn laws! Good thing we all elected the Democrat because we didn’t want Bush’s laws!

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        A large portion of the personal wealth in America is concentrated in real estate (mortgage debt).

        When Obama became president, he could have easily bailed out the 9 million American homeowners (predominantly low income black and Hispanic families), but instead he chose Wall Street, effectively facilitating the largest transfer of wealth from the black community to private capital in history.

        In this sense, Obama prevented future generations of black communities from ever becoming homeowners again.

        Similar trends are also happening under Biden’s policies today, the so-called “Bidenomics” where black unemployment has risen much faster than other demographics. These are all austerity measures designed to make poor minorities bear the brunt of the economic impact if only to slow the crumbling of the system itself.

        But since “the government actually profited” it’s all good, right?

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      You know the federal reserve turned a profit from their intervention during the Great Recession era, right? Like, you don’t actually think it was just Obama throwing helicopter money, right?

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        Mental gymnastics go so far you now have people saying that 2008 was actually a good thing.

        Blue MAGA is a cult.

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    But but but Biden had control for two whole years! And we don’t have the Jetsons’ lifestyle! Why can’t they get their act together and do something??? (/s)

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      I know it’s sarcasm, but I think people would have been a lot more cool with Biden if the accomplishments were more spread out. Yeah, a lot of really great stuff has happened in the last three months, but now it looks like pandering instead of a culmination of effort. Not to mention, most of it is being buried under Israel’s genocide, making it easy for disconnected voters to miss the recent good news and just remember all the old nothing that happened for the past 3 years.

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        Are you of the opinion that these things happen really quickly? Because they don’t. That they’re all coming due is about right.

        Pandering? GTFO.

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          I know it’s the culmination of a lot of hard work, in some cases decades of hard work, but I’m an informed voter who keeps track of the news. I guess I’m mostly just decrying the Democrats complete inability to market themselves and get their base excited about their wins.

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            I guess I’m mostly just decrying the Democrats complete inability to market themselves and get their base excited about their wins.

            While Democrat incompetence is incredible, a lot of it is, as people in this comment section are showing, active attempts to denigrate any success the Democrats have.

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              Because a lot of what the claim as success is a half measure at best and actually makes things worse in a lot of instances. For example, thanks to the ACA we now have more people giving health insurance companies more money than ever before, money they use to lobby and lock in their political advantages, but meanwhile lots of insured people are still being crushed by healthcare costs because the insurance they get is crap.

              But, just to prove I’m not just a Democratic party/Biden hater -

              e; actually, nevermind

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                Okay, the ACA has a lot of problems, but I want to make sure this isn’t a motte-and-bailey I’m dealing with here - your position is then, that the ACA is worse than the situation was before?

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                For example, thanks to the ACA we now have more people giving health insurance companies more money than ever before

                I know you’re not a trumper or a troll, your history is solid left and I get it, we probably agree on just about everything. But if the first thing you’re on about with the ACA is money to the insurance companies, in the context of this thread, I’d suggest you’re missing what an enormous win it was.

                I know more than two people - real life people, now - who had chronic conditions that they were just miserably living with. The ACA actually got them to a doctor and a dentist for the first time in a long, long time. And it made them better. They became happier people. They did more good in the world.

                Is the ACA a republican band-aid to a horribly crooked system? Of course. Single-payer must happen. But the people I know will likely die before it does. We’re in more danger of becoming a fascist dictatorship than we are of getting single-payer.

                But the only reason these people got anything at all was because the Democrats made something happen. And it was huge. For them, for me, and thousands of others. So while I’m all onboard for keeping pushing, we’re on the clock here with regards to averting disaster and that has to come first.

                If we survive November, we’ll meet back up and hassle the newly-electeds together.

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                  Thank you for the sincere and thought out reply, that was honestly really refreshing.

                  I’m really, truly, glad for your people and that they’re doing better and doing more good in the world, and very much believe that’s exactly what healthcare can and should do for people and society. However, I know one person who spent years dealing with medical debt because their insurance basically did a bait and switch (hospital was in network but the doctor wasn’t), probably a dozen who spent years at jobs they hated because they needed the insurance, and one person who worked in healthcare and basically had to switch jobs and move to a different specialty because having to fight insurance companies for her patients and losing those fights was destroying her mental health.

                  Also - and this feels kinda petty and I’m sorry if it comes off as disrespecting your story but I’ve just gotta say - I’m pretty certain dental coverage isn’t mandated for employers under the ACA, or for adults on state Medicaid plans. So, though the ACA certainly may have helped or played a role in the people you know getting dental care (like, some states do provide dental, and there’s probably matching money or a grant or some other mechanism somewhere in the ACA to support that), it didn’t do it alone, and there’s all too many people who don’t get that treatment because they have a lousy employer plan and/or live in a red state.

                  And my problem with the ACA is that it really serves to lock a lot of these problems in and just completely neutralize any political will to change them. Beyond shoveling money at health insurance companies, it’s made them a central player in healthcare policy, both through their lobbying work and through the kinds of influence they’re more able to exercise over healthcare providers (e.g. what health insurance will and won’t cover determines what departments get what kind of staffing, let alone the impact it has on what individual providers can and can’t do). The deeper these things set in to our various bureaucratic and political systems the harder it becomes to even imagine another way to do things because the administrative and intellectual resources to do all the nifty gritty detail work of healthcare are owned outright or deeply intertwined with this inefficient and unjust market system.

                  Also, there’s a deeper historical conversation to be had about how the politics of 2008-10 played out, and how bank bailouts and the ACA both gave Tea Party assholes material to work with, but frankly I don’t have the mental energy to disentangle that from the fact that straight up racism and lies did a lot to propel them. Like, to discuss that 2 year period properly really would take a whole book, but the harm that was done to this country by the 2010 election and the census and gerrymanderings that came after it is really hard to overstate, and I really think that the mishandling of policy and messaging around the foreclosure crisis and healthcare reform by Democratic lawmakers really set the stage for that disaster.

                  That all being said,

                  If we survive November, we’ll meet back up and hassle the newly-electeds together

                  Hear hear, that’s something I’ll look forward to while holding my nose and filling out my ballot. Good luck to you and your people, whatever may come.

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    infrastructure bill is just climate change acceleration. More roads, more SUV’s.

    This meme’s missing the genocide arming, strike busting, and affordable EV banning

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          About 54 percent ($643 billion) of the law’s $1.2 trillion total goes toward surface transportation, into a massive five-year authorization (through 2026) of federal transportation law that’s nearly twice the size of the FAST Act that it replaces. The rest goes toward other non-surface transportation infrastructure needs. Two-thirds ($432 billion) of that $643 billion is flowing to conventional highway programs. And when compared to the previous five-year law, the new infrastructure bill increases highway program funding by 90 percent, transit funding by 79 percent, and rail infrastructure funding by 750 percent.

          As i read it, that says 2/3 of 54% is surface transportation, including rail and bridges etc. so roughly $425B out of 1.2T. So, not mostly highways.

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            A plurality for highways. By a large margin the largest recipient of funds from the bill.

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              plurality /ploo͝-răl′ĭ-tē/

              noun

              1. The state or fact of being plural.
              2. A large number or amount; a multitude.

              Had to look it up. So you agree you were mistaken that it was “mostly” or all related to fossil-fuel vehicle infrastructure? Or at least it’s not mostly highways then?

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                Plurality also means receiving the most out of all recipients but without receiving a majority. Like our elections.

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          There was some stuff for rehabilitating our rail corridors. Not enough, of course, but it was there.

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            oh sure there’s things in it that could be considered beneficial to the climate. all vastly outweighed by the climate damage of the hundreds of billions going to highways.

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              It’s the infrastructure bill, not the climate change bill. Which, btw, Biden passed the largest climate change bill in world history but you just keep trying to convince people that Biden bad.

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                It is a climate change bill, its accelerating climate change.

                Dont worry i know about that other bill too, the one that opened up millions of acres of new oil drilling

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      Also, their much touted climate change bill is almost entirely just handing out money to wealthy for profit companies (including fucking oil and gas companies for carbon capture programs that probably won’t work) and hoping they do good things with it, instead of just prohibiting them from doing bad things like we should be doing

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      I would say arming Israel is now squarely on Congress.

      In this case Joe Biden did not want to restart shipments but was forced by a Congressional resolution.

      Here is a Reuters article covering the resolution, here is the house press release, here is the Congressional voting record.

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        Biden used emergency powers to bypass congress on shipping missiles to Israel before. This resolution is in range of veto, also holy shit what a title.

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          He used his powers to bypass the Congressional approval process and then has since been against shipping weapons most likely because of the blowback.

          While he could veto this resolution given the overwhelming support by Congress it would only cause a short term delay.

          Congress at that level of approval has the right to override a presidential veto and given that it was done with the express purpose of spiting the president’s orders I don’t think it would do much good.

          I will never understand why people are so keen on laying this entirely at the presidency.

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            I will never understand why people are so keen on laying this entirely at the presidency.

            Because how else will they get their long-awaited second Trump presidency, if not by playing Bothsides™ games with Biden?

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              Scary how right this seems with every passing day, I don’t like to be reductive but most people here can’t be reasoned with

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                Most people on here can be reasoned with. But once you start learning usernames, you notice who the loud ones are.

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              You’ve inhaled your own facts too frequently if you think everyone critical of Biden and the democrats want a Trump presidency.

              It’s Biden’s to lose and he keeps making choices to ensure it happens. Stop expecting blind support because only Trump gets it.

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                You’ve inhaled your own facts too frequently if you think everyone critical of Biden and the democrats want a Trump presidency.

                Okay, what about everyone here saying that voting for Biden is literally genocide and that they could never do it and anyone who does is a murderer?

                Do they want a Trump presidency, or do they have a super secret plan up their sleeve we normies are too indoctrinated to see?

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            While he could veto this resolution given the overwhelming support by Congress it would only cause a short term delay.

            So why not do that then? Why not veto it and show he doesn’t want more weapons sent to Israel? If you’re so afraid of the inevitable “people will just vote for it anyways,” why not just roll over and let Trump have his second term?

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    A table full of money would be things like “government-provided healthcare” and “drugs legalized”, not “one specific healthcare need made affordable” and “one of the most mild illegal drugs made slightly less illegal”.