Yep. I knew about this because I spent maybe 2 hours on a weekend filling out my ballot and Googling shit as I went.
It’s really not that hard and we’d be living in what we’d currently consider a utopia if everyone dedicated a couple hours A YEAR to responsibly filling out their ballot.
I voted against this as it’s stupid. Goes a billionaire’s non profit and puts California 8 Billion in debt for like the next decade
This ballot initiative was so stupid. Voters should not be deciding funding for medical research. It should be governed by a non partisan comittee of scientists. Sending medical research funding through voters risks subjecting those sick with diseases both to a particularly perverse form of popularity contest and also to moral judgement about their illness. If voters had decided funding during the AIDS epidemic antiviral drug research would not have been funded.
This is why I vote no on crap like this.
That’s pretty good, how can I do that for my own hobby?
I can think of no better way to spend public funds except on non-profits, science, and health research.
But which specific programs do you fund and how much does each deserve? I don’t think this initiative system is the best way to decide that.
At a certain point, we can only hope that our elected representatives wrote it out. I regrettably didn’t read too much into this prop, and read more into prop 40 which, as far as I can tell, had little to no direction where the tax funds would go.
Me and my immediates generally trust the sciences. Personally I vote yes on any and all tax hikes, unless I see something glaring.
I can’t tell if California has this mastermind ballot writer that makes these things impossible to know which way to vote yes or no on, Or California has the lowest adult literacy rate?
The measures I’m hearing about are really fucking bonkers. Maybe I should ask the state of California if I can have 10 million dollars to research if video games make me violent.
It’s not a California thing. I love on the other coast and I swear to god every ballot measure I read is worded in the most ambiguous or vague way possible. By that I mean the way it’s written on the ballot, not on the full text of the measure.
It’s purposeful (which I’m sure you already know). There’s a fella whose name I can’t recall right now that is responsible for an incredibly large amount of these ballot measures (I want to say in the realm of 700-900? Or maybe ~150-200, not sure, but still a lot of them) and has a success rate of something like 95% with them. My state’s bullshit was so contorted that I made sure to read the positions of several advocacy groups to figure out which ones I was going to vote yes/no on.
First of all, it doesn’t go the “three people”, it goes to a non-profit immunology research lab. Im sure they will expand their lab and researchers with the additional funding.
Secondly, It doesn’t prevent others from setting up their own labs now that the funding is available. Lots of universities in the state will do just that.
More research into immunization and immunotherapy? A win for public health.
It goes to a billionaire’s non profit, pretty sus already
How dare you read the source and form your own opinion!
Shun the nonbeliever!
That endorsement from the Michael J Fox Foundation carried a lot of weight, it seems.
Here’s an article about this.
Robert Kaplan is a senior scholar at the Stanford University School of Medicine and co-chair of the No on Prop 38 campaign.
One of the key arguments of the No on Prop 38 campaign cites a CalMatters investigative report, which found that the highly specific criteria leave only one institution qualified to receive funding: the California Institute for Immunology and Immunotherapy, associated with UCLA and founded by Michelson.
“When I first heard of Proposition 38, I was excited about it because it provides more money for biomedical research, which I think is necessary,” Kaplan said.
Kaplan says there needs to be open competition between institutions and questions the limiting of funding to a single discipline, immunotherapy, when there is a wider array of biomedical research.
He is also concerned that the anticipated 10% of revenue generated by discoveries funded through the measure to repay the General Fund could take decades, given the uncertainty in the amounts and timing.
Link to the CalMatters story.
I misread this as someone wrote a piece of legislation that was so good, the voting public paid him $4.2 billion as an outsourced legislator.
I must be naive.
I thought the same thing. I figured, hey, if this guy can write a piece so good that it can’t be assailed by legalists I guess he deserves a cut of funding for services rendered.
For such a misanthrope, I sure am terminally optimistic. Must be some kind of undiagnosed brain damage.
I’m more or less the same; “prepare for the worst but hope for the best.”
At least they didn’t accidentally tax the billionaires. /s
Edit: maybe results are not in enough to say this yet just was going off news agency claimed results
Its so fucking stupid. They said no to the billionare tax: then they said no to the first honey pot to remove it; then they said fucking yes to the second honey pot: banning of all new taxes on assets just because people only read ‘it protects your 401k’.
How do people ever think ‘blanket removing the consideration of thing for all time’ is a reasonable move. There wasn’t even an anticipated tax on peoples 401ks thats the whole point of tax advantaged accounts. Just stupid.
Why don’t we also ban the legislature from putting rocket boosters on the earth and crashing it into the sun? Theres nothing preventing this smh crashing out on this ngl
I should put a few measures on the ballot.
You’ll need around 900,000 signatures. For the low low price of $8/signature you too can tantelize Californians with some silly bullshit
I’ll gladly pay you and 899,999 citizens $8 each once my $4.2B handout gets passed.
Further proof that people can’t fucking read.
Apparently, that number is highest in California Source. I wouldn’t expect that in California.
Yet another reason why California’s ballot initiative system is a bad idea.
Californians seem to overwhelmingly vote however the billionaires tell them to vote. It is heartbreaking.
They had people fully panicked that the “Billionaire Tax” would get rewritten by the state legislature to apply to everyone, despite (me pointing out to relatives) the part of the law that says they can’t do that.
Americans do. I’m from California and I knew this wouldn’t pass. Americans don’t differentiate between the game (capitalism) and life. Our culture is competitive. According to the rules of the game, we have fealty to our social superiors, because they are the winners of life. It’s not our place to inconvenience them or get in their way. If any of us won, we would expect the same. Anyway, having said that, I voted yes on it. I think it wasn’t enough, but a starting point.
I’m just curious – are citizens of all countries all the same, or is it only americans that are all the same?
Speak for yourself.
That’s a pretty accurate description of the average US American. We have a belligerent zero-sum society that places high value on anti-social behaviors ie “rugged individualism” and paired with American exceptionalism and functional illiteracy… Yeah I’d say that description is very accurate of the average US American.
You didn’t read far enough. I voted yes on it as did many others. I was referring to Americans in general. American society in general. A majority shot down this VERY logical proposition. Why? It has nothing to do with the state of California. In fact, a bill like this would do worse in practically any other state.
