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Reddit is announcing a huge shift: It’s going to start requiring users to log in.
Right now, you can browse Reddit without having an account, and the site is generally a great resource for crowdsourced information on a whole range of topics. I know I’m not the only person who appends “reddit” to a lot of Google searches to find answers to things written by actual humans instead of robots. But that openness has made it a target for scraping and automated traffic, leading Reddit to file lawsuits over alleged unauthorized access of its data and make product changes like limiting access to “Old Reddit.”
There’s no definitive timeline on when this change will roll out to all users, or how the site will work if you’re logged out. (If I send my friend a link to a thread and they aren’t logged in, what will they see?) To start, Reddit will test the logged-in requirement in “select markets outside the US” in the “coming months,” according to CEO Steve Huffman. “We’ll look at the impact on the user experience, on our business, and on the whole Reddit ecosystem, figure out where the right boundaries are, and go from there.” Reddit has also rebuilt and is rereleasing the Reddit app’s incognito mode.
Huffman claims the login requirement is better for Reddit’s user experience and its ads business and is “more protective of Reddit data.” The “vast majority” of unauthorized Reddit access happens “through our logged-out experiences,” though the company will still strike licensing deals of its data with companies, like the deals it made with OpenAI and Google in 2024. Huffman notes that Reddit does not need to know a logged-in user’s identity — “Honestly, we don’t want to know” — just that the user is logged in at all. And he says that more logged-in users lets the company deliver “more relevant ads.”
“This is a big change for Reddit, where we’ve allowed logged-out access to basically all of Reddit for the last two decades,” Huffman says. “And I don’t know about you, but as someone whose life has been defined by the open internet, it’s a big change for me. But I’ve come to the conclusion that this is the right decision for our platform and the right decision for our business.”
Reddit is making this announcement alongside its Q3 2026 earnings, which were released today. Search traffic was “down meaningfully” in Q3, Huffman says in the company’s shareholder letter, with logged-out traffic and web traffic being the most heavily impacted. “During October, we have seen that search traffic has dropped by more than 1 million referrals on average per week,” Huffman says.
However, Huffman notes that app and logged-in daily active unique users make up “over 80% of the monetization on Reddit,” which he says “speaks to the strength of Reddit as a destination and the impact of our ongoing product work.”
Wrong. Reddit only forces Reddit users to log in. lol
I’m safe.they got mad, because people just became lurkers on reddit, because they dont want to get banned in general.
It’s been a series of greed-motivated decisions that have made Reddit a worse experience for users over the last few years:
- API changes that killed off third-party apps
- Allowing AI training on its content
- Hidden/curated profile nonsense (yes, I know it’s easily bypassed)
- Limiting access to old.reddit
- Removal of r/all
- Age verification
- Killing RSS feeds
Now requiring log-in to view all content and talks of paywalling some subreddits (put on hold, but I wouldn’t put it past them to bring it up again).
Despite Reddit being on the decline for a while now, I would browse without being logged in or through Redlib because there is still interesting and helpful information and niche communities to be found there. I recently noticed some subreddits were not appearing among search results on Redlib and not being able to access posts that appear on its Redlib’s front page either. I hope there will be a workaround.
anychance this helps the 'verse?
I think not much chance of that. Users that post there are unaffected & lemmy rarely shows up in search results…
This will make Google / DDG searches less useful than before, so even more people will use Ai instead of search.
In fact I would argue that this is a really bad business decision on Reddit’s part. I can totally see them come around & revert it in a couple of months.
Unlikely. Reddit is too big and mainstream and the lemmyverse too small, too confusing - and too far-left politically, to be frank. Most of it is a ghost town. I also doubt it would be able to withstand a sudden massive influx of users from both a technical and organizational perspective.
I am always surprised people claim 34,000 daily users is “a ghost town” we, well other than Earnest, made it through the great Reddit exodus
34k is absolutely nothing for an entire network of communities. I used to mod for a stagnating/declining gaming forum that was just in a single language (not English) and much larger than that - and even it felt quite small.
Keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of users on any online community are near permanent lurkers and do not contribute with even brief comments - or even by voting. What matter is how many people are actually submitting links, writing posts and comments.
Look at this community: It’s the largest “general” technology community on the lemmyverse (I think), yet there are just a small handful of people posting, often days between posts and on average (going by the last three pages of submissions), tons of posts where not even a single user is commenting. Anything that isn’t controversial and does get comments is usually in the 3 to 7 comments range.
That’s a ghost town. I can practically see tumbleweed slowly rolling across the page. My perception might be a little skewed though, because the way I interact with posts is by annoyingly inserting myself into existing conversations or at least replying to unanswered comments that already exist, so I tend to avoid empty posts.
Part of this emptiness is certainly due to forums in general going the way of the dodo (thanks to Facebook, twitter, instagram and especially Discord, as awful as all of these are at replacing conventional forums) and part of it is due to reddit having absorbed much of the user base that is still interested in forums. My hypothesis is that reddit losing users due to ongoing enshittification would just result in the overwhelming majority of them ending spread out across the aforementioned services instead of ending up here. I’m terrible at predicting things though, but the big reddit exodus (or whatever actually materialized) largely skipped the lemmyverse in the past and I don’t think conditions have changed enough for anything different to happen this time, should this recent boneheaded decision by reddit’s management result in fewer people using their site.
Mfw “too far left” is center-right.
The lemmyverse is center-right in your opinion? Or did you misread and thought I meant reddit with that? Sorry if I caused any confusion.
Obama was right of Nixon. Nixon gave us the EPA and wanted universal health, until Kaiser businessmen made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Nixon signed those things into law with a (unbelievable now) left wing Democrat majority in the Senate and House that would have passed it over his veto. He could either get on board and claim some semblance of credit or weakly resist.
It’s more than what Democratic majorities have been doing, since.
It’s a brave new world for sure.
You might want to look up how certain political positions switched from being supported by both sides of the aisle to becoming wedge issues. Obama was most certainly not right of Nixon. That’s just absurd.
To get back to my question though, I don’t feel like you answered it clearly. Does your reply mean - since Obama was and still is very popular on reddit - that the site is center-right from your point of view? From a European perspective this might be the case, but not in the way the current American political spectrum is organized. The political spectrum is not an absolute thing, but instead applies to the current reality in a certain place and the relationship of its participants to one another.
There’s also the issue that people who are politically further away from the center perceiving those that are closer to it as more extreme than they actually are, e.g. a far-right person might consider a moderate to be far left and a moderately left-wing person might consider a centrist to be center-right.
Ratchet effect, Overton Window, rotating villains, good/bad cop. I said what I said.
nixon wasnt doing it out of pureness of his heart, he used as truncation to his political disasters(watergate tonkin gulf disaster, and the vietnam war). nixon was way more right wing than obama, lol.
I’ve posted a few links to Lemmy on the Reddit discussion. Don’t want to obviously overwhelm the moderators here, but hopefully we get a few new users.
@[email protected] I hope so. The “don’t have to login” part though, while technically possible, I suspect will be less usable here, just due to nature of federation (and, while I think its a good thing IRL, discovery isn’t helped that some of the biggest instances have blocked each other).
The thing is, the people who were browsing Reddit without an account are just going to browse Lemmy without an account as well. :P
For sure to some degree, but I watch a weekly fccincinnati game thread (soccer) not logged in there because I deleted my account 3 years ago.
Noticed last night I couldn’t look at that thread in old reddit without logging in, I could still visit by going to regular reddit which wasn’t gonna happen.
I do have a throwaway from long back that maybe has one comment posted. so I used that last night but it will likely end with me visiting even less than I do now.
You could try the redlib front end as an alternative.
Sure, if it ever worked.
i use redreader app, and continum app to look at reddit without logging in, wish they allow you to make it look like old reddit, or compress the post better.
I just want enough people to come here so I don’t have to give them any clicks
i used extension to reskin it as old, but it has kinks it needs to work out. just dont want to see the ugly doomscrolling feed that is the new one.
At the start, yes. But I would imagine some fraction will convert over if they like the content.
I suspect that’s how a lot of people got started on Reddit.
Yeah, I had stopped commenting and voting in reddit because it has felt less and less impactful with time and with the huge echoes chambers and also bots.
There are still a lot of echo chamber here but they seems less impermeable?
Anyway since I’m on Lemmy I’m motivated to participate. And I don’t think I’m an exception on that.
Not true. I am that person.
Nothing wrong with that
Agreed, but it’s presumptive to think they’ll make accounts here when they didn’t make accounts there.
What to do about the influx of new users? Nothing. Reddit’s latest foot-shooting won’t drive new account creation the way the original exodus did.
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Deleted my account a couple of years ago when I moved to Lemmy, but I do still find handy info without login via Google every now and again… when this happens, I hope the links are stripped from Google and not left as links to a ‘please login’ page.
I seem to remember Google giving them a bucket of money, so I am guessing not
Lemmy is way better. Just wish it was easy to search it for information like reddit
Tbh Lemmy’s integrated search is pretty great with all the filters and ability to search locally and across instances. It’s already way ahead of reddit’s search.
doubt theres much info, once an instance goes dark it usually isnt saved or replicated onto another one. reddit have posts up to 10+years. lemmy being less searchable means AI can scrape it less, and its less to bots. there is a silver lining.
Maybe one of these work well? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=search+engine+fediverse
Can’t force me to login, when I haven’t visited since the creation of my Lemmy account. (3yrs)
Eyyy, fellow APIcalypse refugee
Same for me. I refused right then and will continue to do so, forever. My continued authentic human expressions will never again contribute to their brazen intellectual theft.
I’m mostly curious what will happen if they lock out search engine queries from even seeing the page containing the answer - that was no doubt given by a helpful human user; benevolently and without compensation I might add.
Will they keep the human created and subsequently stolen important information hostage unless the reconnaissance targets (you and I) are forced to log in?
I’m mostly curious what will happen if they lock out search engine queries from even seeing the page containing the answer
Very possible they expect outsiders to use the site through LLMs or otherwise pay for the privilege of access to community-generated content.
assholes.
would be kinda funny if old reddit still works signed out with the cookie hack after new reddit doesn’t. (they still haven’t fixed it, setting redesign_optout cookie gives you signed out old reddit|
it doesnt work anymore, but i found a extension that reskin as the old one,(it has some fixing it needs) other that its better than the UGLY new UI.
centralizing online communication on a few large platforms was a good idea, riiiiiiight??? /s
I just hope this makes more people discover the “threadiverse”.
Fediverse as a whole, but yes.
Even if there isn’t a huge wave immediately, by continuing to engage here even if the communities we have here are small, we prove that it is possible to do what we are doing without centralized bigtech corporations, and longterm/medium that is an existential attack on their legitimacy (as it should be).
We just have to keep this place going to win, we don’t have to grow virally or convince everyone to move here instead of migrating to Yet Another Corporate Social Media Silo… we have to establish thorough proof over a significant stretch of time that the narratives out of Silicon Valley about what social media is and how the only way to make it “sustainable” is profit and surveillance capitalism are delusional and offbase narratives. We prove that a little bit every moment we spend here…
Corporate Social Media must prove the rule that Bigtech Corps are needed to run social media, we have a much easier job, we must only prove the exception while demonstrating we are only one possible alternative of many.
fediverse is essentially “forums” but without the messy gatekeeping of posting and overreaching mods.

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@zen like any other fascist social media
Good. Get more people away from it. I really wish JapanFinance in particular, but JapanLife/JapanResidents would move. That’s basically the only reason I go there; get help with complicated issues and try to help others where I can.
Rest in Piss Reddit
Lol. Good luck with that, reddit. I’m not logging into shit. You can keep all that over there.
started a few months ago when google started limiting accounts, tha tpeople use to make a reddit accounts. im guessing reddit has drama with google.
You already made the site unusable by killing RSS feeds. Making it even worse won’t make me come back.
You already made the site unusable by killing
RSS feedsthe API.FTFY










