Why does he look like a budget John Malkovich in this pic??
Yeah especially when John Malkovich is getting pretty old and is probably available on a budget anyway.
Never knew who this guy was until the right wing women all wanted to fuck him and it exploded on the internet.
We need way more of this. Republicans are constantly lying and slandering people without consequences.
I love how people on here are so willing to ignore abuse for people they like.
Source? Or are you doing a Scott Jennings and pulling things out of your ass?
They saw that one out of context now debunked clip where Hasan’s dog tripped on it’s bed and now hold it up as an example of him being an abuser.
It’s wild how we have Dan Saltman admitting he made up that shock collar rumor because of how viral Ethan Klein killing his own dog with cheese went and there are still people totally willing to believe him.
Wait, I’m honestly curious about this one to finally put it to bed lol
Velma already posted the links for those coming here later!
Thank you! Found them a but further in the comment history too haha
I firmly believe everyone who believes the lie has never had a pet. I’ve seen my cat fall off the ottoman while running around and then immediately just sit and bathe enough to believe that’s what Hasan’s dog did. People say if it’s an energetic puppy but then lays there and I’m like, yeah? You play with the puppies until they collapse so you can have some peace and quiet and they’re happy napping.
Hasan Piker is a great example of a person whose fame is a sign of the world being fucked up.
It’s so funny when people edit their comments as if no one saw the weird shit you said earlier lol
Tell me you’re conservative without telling me hahahaha
Probably fuck Scott Jennings, too? Lol
Excuse my ignorance, but who is Hasan piker?
A social democratic Twitch streamer prominent for supporting social democratic or progressive liberal candidates in primaries against more establishment democrats.
Best known for shocking his dog on a livestream.
Nah, he has his problems as a reformist but the endless drama and defamation surrounding him is already known.
It’s how I heard about him, at least. The dog shocking spawned a lot of memes that spilled out far and wide enough for people who don’t watch e-celebs to see.
Oh so you’re regurgitating unverified rumors to convince people to distrust this guy? Cool, cool.
Kinda funny we’re talking about this on a post about Hasan suing Scott Jennings for defamation.
Wow you’re weird, hasan doesn’t care about and is never going to fuck you. Stop fighting for him. That’s how we ended up with right wingers.
hasan doesn’t care about and is never going to fuck you. Stop fighting for him
Is this the only conceivable reason to defend somebody you can think of?
Oh yeah, I’m notoriously so horny for men. Everyone knows me around here for being the most horny for men and only men. I just looooove himbos so much.
It’s certainly not because I’m relatively well versed in politics and follow these issues closely. No way.
yawn. I used to watch him religiously but him not owning up to shocking his dog put a bad taste in my mouth. Haven’t watched him since.
Yep, it was deliberate as a smear campaign.
Do you have evidence that it was deliberate and/or coordinated or does your .ml betray you in your opinion that Piker can do no wrong?
Evidence has already been linked to you, though it’s a real possibility that you’ve blocked me so as to maintain your echo chamber.
Hasan can do wrong, he’s a reformist and in many ways a liberal, rather than a socialist. Him being attacked and slandered as a threat to establishment Democrats is not up for debate.
Dan Saltman recently revealed that he was the originator of that lie and he did it specifically to smear Hasan.
More clips of Destiny and Dan Saltman coming up with the rumor
Thanks for the links!
No problem! Some of these sloptubers are a little cringe in their intros, but the clips and fact finding is pretty legit.
He’s a leftist political streamer on twitch. He has been at it for many years now, and has recently been the target of many a smear campaign by conservative (and lots of liberal) media, especially after he campaigned with some leftist candidates throughout the United States in the recent primaries. Including Mamdani, and Abdul El-Sayed to name a couple. He comes off a bit like a dude bro, and has said provocative things. But personally I think he has lots of fantastic takes.
Best answer. For everyone else, we get it, he lost the purity contest.
“Leftist” has garnered my attention :P I was wondering how he surpassed the trans community on fox news
“Old enough to count, old enough to mount” - parasocial idol for people who were dropped on their head from a second story window as babies
This quote is from a satirical comedy bit where he is playing a character imitating a specific archetype of a conservative at the time. The video even includes a disclaimer that it is satire, so if you saw a clip of him saying that and just believed it then it shows that you don’t even do the bare minimum of checking context.
Reminder that pedo_troll Ethan Klein sexualized a 17 year old boston bom bing victim, said he wanted to “fck that sweet juvenile vagna” while openly using the n word, and threatens to “f*ck her in the face” multiple times while his wife Hila Klein films the whole video
And then he cheated on his wife with a much younger intern.
America deserved Klein/11
I fucking love stumbling across other snarkers in the wild hahahaha
He also abuses his dog with a shock collar…
You must be Scott Jennings.
Oh that guy?? Oh hell no…
Dont be gullible.
A “no” would’ve sufficed
He’s not a particularly well-known figure outside of streaming platforms, but I’ll quote a previous post I wrote to give an attempt at a rounded impression of him. It’s from another thread so there’s some parts of it that might look a bit less relevant to this one, but here it is:
"I think everyone who knows some about him will have an opinion on him - I’d call him divisive. I’ll try to give a relatively neutral rundown - I’m not a historian or researcher on this subject so my knowledge is likely to have holes.
I don’t have time to treat this like a dissertation or adding citations, but I’ll try to present things as neutrally as I can and then you (or anyone else reading) can decide to further research any of the points as you see fit. I am not the final authority on this, just someone who’s dug a little more into this than the average person, and who has no strong feelings for or against the person in question.
He is a political twitch streamer. He ties himself to, and uses the language of, the far left and related candidates. He backs and campaigns for progressive candidates which often raises awareness and donation for them, but the effect seems to be limited - some candidates he backs does well and others do not. He also seems to make plenty of statements that directly contradicts the candidates he backs and campaign for, causing some of them to try to distance themselves from him.
He appears to be well-versed in U.S. electoral politics, media framing, and progressive political arguments, which tracks with his bachelor’s degree in political science and communication studies from Rutgers from 2013. Being a streamer he ends up talking about a lot of related subjects, in which he often has to give off-the-cuff opinions and takes, which can often fall well-short of informed or accurate.
He says his end goal is communism. He got his start as a content creator in his uncle’s online news channel (The Young Turks), before later splitting off from them and doing his own streaming business. He is from a very affluent family, personally earns a lot of money and he clearly lives an affluent lifestyle. He claims to thrift for designer clothes but when pressed appears to reference outlet stores and similar. Initially he claimed that he doesn’t want his regular thrift stores to get raided by fans, although his fans might be less affluent than him and therefore better served by access to these stores. He has done several very successful charity streams that amassed large amounts of money for good causes. He claims to donate great amounts of money to charities, although the amount of donated money that can be tied to him is very low for his level of wealth, somewhere between 77.000 - 80.000 USD total (0,5-1%) of his estimated wealth, which is 8-14 million USD. While he does not appear to put his money where his mouth is, he does spend some of his time on popular fundraising, which drives a lot of attention to both him and the causes he fund-raise for.
He is often abrasive in his communication, although he will excuse that with passion for the subjects he talk about. He has a large audience that aggressively attacks dissenters or people Hassan expresses dislike for or disagreement with. The harassment from his fan base appears to be significantly above and beyond the norm for the space, and while he comments to the contrary it would be hard to believe that he is unaware of the dynamic between him and his fan base. From what I can tell he has taken no steps towards solving this dynamic beyond disavowing some instances of the harassment, while condoning other instances. He does not appear to have a problem with lying about people or broadcasting random people (even known malicious actors, that he himself states to be malicious) on twitter or twitch if it fits his narrative.
He often breaks the rules of his streaming platform (twitch) but receives special treatment, although I am unsure if that is due to personal popularity or personal relationships with the owner of twitch.
He denies using a shock collar on his dog, but looking at the evidence gathered through old videos, still frames from new videos, and from people who personally interacted with the dog would suggest that to be a lie. I do not know if he still uses a shock collar on his dog since the latest controversy.
As said, feel free to research each of these points, but do be critical of the sources of information and try to just find the actual evidence of what was done or said, rather than peoples’ conclusions. He is divisive so when people give their take they usually either dismiss all the criticism and focus on the things he does well, or dismiss the things he does well and focus on the criticism.
Find all the evidence you can and make up your own mind."
Now, as for this case it looks like Hasan Piker is substantially more correct than Scott Jennings. Snopes did a good write up of the evidence, so I’d recommend looking at that directly, if you care about the issue.
He denies using a shock collar on his dog, but looking at the evidence gathered through old videos, still frames from new videos, and from people who personally interacted with the dog would suggest that to be a lie. I do not know if he still uses a shock collar on his dog since the latest controversy.
Shock collars don’t even work on dogs like Kaya. Their fur is too thick around their neck. You’ve completely fallen for a smear campaign.
Shock collars don’t even work on dogs like Kaya.
Then somebody probably should’ve told Piker that.
Oh you again hahahahaha
Come join the party. You’re gonna get wiped with facts.
I’m not the one spouting fallacies.
Stating that shock collars don’t work on that breed does not preclude Piker – fool that he is – from erroneously using one in a fit of rage. It’s a monumentally terrible argument. Try that fact on for size.
They don’t work because shock collars need to make skin contact and Kaya’s fur is incredibly thick around her neck because of the mix of breeds she is.
That you think Hasan is being propped up by the CCP is telling.
Tell me, what breed is Kaya?
And what source are you citing that they do not work 100% of the time?
That is untrue. If the shock collar has the wrong types of prongs or if it is poorly fitted, it might not reach the skin well enough to make constant contact meaning that at some presses it wouldn’t work very well, but you can get models that will make contact even with thick fur.
You can’t simply dismiss the point without willfully, or otherwise, ignoring how shock collars do and do not work.
Now, based on the video where Hasan Piker gave us the best look at the shock collar, the best match would be the Educator RX-090, as confirmed by their own support team. Feel free to check this link, scrolling down to the section named “What the manufacturer’s support says”. The whole article gives a decent rundown of the evidence as well, but it’s a longer read.
This particular model might be an “extra poor” choice for Kaya given that Tibetan Mastiffs do tend to have doublecoated furs with a thick, whooly undercoat, but that is a common mistake people make when buying shock collars.
Dan Saltman and Destiny made this up. Stop working for right wing grifters.
I am not particularly well-versed in those guys, so I can’t speak to their findings, but at a cursory glance I don’t see a link between anything I’ve linked and them - I am happy to be corrected if there is something I’ve missed.
However, until you bring any kind of evidence, I will rely on Hitchen’s Razor here: “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”
Thank you for the links.
For the first link: I don’t see the relevance. It talks about starting a rumor, but I do not reference any rumoring in my posts. I reference try my best to reference things with factual evidence backing it up. Can you help clarify how it is relevant? - I already know Hasan Piker is divisive he’s seen as a boogeyman to some and a savior to others, and this just seems to reinforce that, but nothing else.
For the second link: What part was the relevant one? - The part where they briefly talk about the shock collar issue, but doesn’t actually address any evidence for or against? I’ll be honest, I don’t really see the relevance for the rest. It just seems to be a negatively slanted video about Destiny and Sam Altman, which isn’t really relevant to what Hasan has or has not actually done.
On an interesting but separate note, I find the editing of this video interestingly similar to the CNN video that cause Hasan Piker to sue Scott Jennings - I truly feels like the editing of some of the video-clips they use are pushing a very clear narrative, but one that doesn’t seem to be supported by the clips they use, or at least wouldn’t be if the full clip was shown. That said, I am not familiar with the original clips or particularly familiar with the people in question, so I can’t speak to anything other than the video-making style used for the video, which is something I am familiar with, as I have worked with storytelling in editing via my profession.
Stop working for these people.
Dan Saltman is a tech entrepreneur and political podcaster who leverages his platform to advance Zionist interests, targeting pro-Palestine voices and justifying Israel’s ongoing settler-colonial project in occupied Palestine.
As founder of TinyChat — a video chat platform acquired in 2014 after receiving $1.5 million in funding from Sean “Diddy” Combs, amid allegations of its use in predatory behavior — Saltman built his career in online communications. He now serves as CEO of Redact.dev, a service that deletes users’ digital footprints, which he promotes amid his own involvement in online activism. Saltman co-hosts the “Anything Else” podcast with Steven Bonnell II (Destiny), where he discusses politics and amplifies pro-Israel views to Western audiences.
Saltman has repeatedly portrayed pro-Palestine advocacy as support for terrorism, directly accusing streamer Hasan Piker of promoting “terrorist propaganda” and “Hamas recruitment videos.” In September 2025, he endorsed calls to ban Piker from Twitch, claiming Piker’s content encourages violence and supports terrorist organizations, while framing criticism of Israel as antisemitism. This rhetoric dehumanizes Palestinians by equating their resistance to Israel’s occupation with inherent threats, perpetuating consent for settler violence.
Saltman orchestrated a widespread disinformation campaign against Twitch, accusing the platform of fostering antisemitism by allowing pro-Palestine speech. He mobilized supporters to pressure advertisers, leading to temporary pauses in spending by companies like JPMorgan and AT&T in late 2024. This effort aimed to suppress voices critical of Israel’s actions in Gaza, where the confirmed death toll exceeds 40,000 — a conservative estimate, as Israel’s destruction of infrastructure and targeting of journalists has halted accurate counting, with the actual number slaughtered well into the hundreds of thousands. Saltman’s actions align with broader Zionist efforts to weaponize antisemitism accusations against dissent, shielding Israel from scrutiny over its apartheid policies and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and Gaza.
His associations extend to content creators like Ethan and Hila Klein of the H3 Podcast and Destiny’s community, with whom he has collaborated on attacks against Piker, viewing him as a threat due to his effective advocacy for Palestinian liberation. Saltman’s push to repeal Section 230 appears motivated by a desire to further censor online criticism of Israel. Twitch banned him indefinitely in November 2024 for “extreme harassment,” including doxxing and targeting employees who refused to comply with his demands.
This pattern of behavior is not isolated but part of a consistent effort to normalize Israel’s settler-colonialism, obscure Palestinian suffering under occupation and genocide, and manufacture public consent for ongoing violence.
Why did you give the link and then copy the whole contents as well? That seems very redundant.
I don’t see how Dan Altman is relevant to any evidence I’ve brought fourth - I didn’t use him as a base for any of my evidence, nor reference them in any claims. Can you tell me how he’s relevant to the subject at hand? (Hasan Piker)
Edit: “Dan” instead “Sam”, partial typo and partial "slip of the tongue"due to the similarity of their names.
This is also how I know you’re arguing in bad faith. Destiny, Dan Saltman, and Hasan have extensive history together.
Firstly: I don’t really see how Hasan Piker having history with other streamers is relevant to anything I am writing about?
Can you clarify what you’re getting at, and how Hasan Piker having history with other online personalities invalidates anything I have written, all of which ostensibly does not seem to have anything to do with that?
And secondly: Can you tell me how I am arguing in “bad faith” (i.e. NOT arguing from a genuine examination of the issue), when I tend to give evidence for my case, clearly referencing actual research done, rather than just repeating something I’ve been told (without evidence)? Quick clarification: that last part is not an accusation that you are just repeating something you’ve been told - I have no proof of that and I am still hoping that you show anything you have to actually back up your beliefs.
I really don’t mean to be offensive or mean, but I think if have the option to take a moment to re-read some of the messages and look up the definition of “bad faith” arguments you are likely to see that either; A: I have in fact been arguing in good faith, and/or B: You might not have been entirely aware what it means to argue in “Bad Faith”.
I am in 100% agreement with you and I’ve argued with this Velma user over this before, and despite Piker changing his story, denying using an electronic device initially but then later changing that to saying it was a vibration collar, leaving aside his obvious moment of rage in the original video – you can just tell he’s a vain, narcissistic piece of shit who may or may not be heavily astroturfed by the CCP.
It’s so obvious Piker is a piece of shit. The left needs better role-models.
I’m not really going to speak to vanity or narcissism - I’m not sure I know where to begin validating that, or what my standard of evidence would have to be for that, especially for someone like Hasan who spends so much of his time in front of a live audience.
The shock collar however does seem very well-documented, or at least as well-documented as it gets without Piker himself coming out and fully admitting to it.
I don’t know why that one is so hard to accept for someone who is a fan of him. I don’t understand why we should only acknowledge the good people do, and not the wrong.
Dan Saltman recently revealed that he was the originator of that lie and he did it specifically to smear Hasan.
More clips of Destiny and Dan Saltman coming up with the rumor
Never once cared, heard, anything Dan Saltman said. I saw it with my own eyes. I saw Piker change his story on this as well. Not exactly a good sign.
I highly encourage you to stop perceiving the world through the lens of a twitch chat and simping for streamers.
If you care about politics, you should care about Dan Saltman.
https://reversecanarymission.org/person/dan-saltman
Dan Saltman is a tech entrepreneur and political podcaster who leverages his platform to advance Zionist interests, targeting pro-Palestine voices and justifying Israel’s ongoing settler-colonial project in occupied Palestine.
As founder of TinyChat — a video chat platform acquired in 2014 after receiving $1.5 million in funding from Sean “Diddy” Combs, amid allegations of its use in predatory behavior — Saltman built his career in online communications. He now serves as CEO of Redact.dev, a service that deletes users’ digital footprints, which he promotes amid his own involvement in online activism. Saltman co-hosts the “Anything Else” podcast with Steven Bonnell II (Destiny), where he discusses politics and amplifies pro-Israel views to Western audiences.
Saltman has repeatedly portrayed pro-Palestine advocacy as support for terrorism, directly accusing streamer Hasan Piker of promoting “terrorist propaganda” and “Hamas recruitment videos.” In September 2025, he endorsed calls to ban Piker from Twitch, claiming Piker’s content encourages violence and supports terrorist organizations, while framing criticism of Israel as antisemitism. This rhetoric dehumanizes Palestinians by equating their resistance to Israel’s occupation with inherent threats, perpetuating consent for settler violence.
Saltman orchestrated a widespread disinformation campaign against Twitch, accusing the platform of fostering antisemitism by allowing pro-Palestine speech. He mobilized supporters to pressure advertisers, leading to temporary pauses in spending by companies like JPMorgan and AT&T in late 2024. This effort aimed to suppress voices critical of Israel’s actions in Gaza, where the confirmed death toll exceeds 40,000 — a conservative estimate, as Israel’s destruction of infrastructure and targeting of journalists has halted accurate counting, with the actual number slaughtered well into the hundreds of thousands. Saltman’s actions align with broader Zionist efforts to weaponize antisemitism accusations against dissent, shielding Israel from scrutiny over its apartheid policies and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and Gaza.
His associations extend to content creators like Ethan and Hila Klein of the H3 Podcast and Destiny’s community, with whom he has collaborated on attacks against Piker, viewing him as a threat due to his effective advocacy for Palestinian liberation. Saltman’s push to repeal Section 230 appears motivated by a desire to further censor online criticism of Israel. Twitch banned him indefinitely in November 2024 for “extreme harassment,” including doxxing and targeting employees who refused to comply with his demands.
This pattern of behavior is not isolated but part of a consistent effort to normalize Israel’s settler-colonialism, obscure Palestinian suffering under occupation and genocide, and manufacture public consent for ongoing violence.
Very in-depth – thank you!
No worries. Happy to help. If you’re still interested I encourage you to do your own research and not take my word for it. Just be aware that he is both is both a republican boogeyman, and simultaneously, has a bit of a cult of personality built up around him on the other end of the spectrum, so nuanced takes are hard to come by.
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A nepo baby cos playing as a progressive on TV to enrich himself. That’s his contribution to the world. And dumb people are attracted to him.
How does any of that justify Scott Jennings going on national television and slandering the man?
Go ahead and get those talking points from Fox. I’ll wait. Let’s hear your psycho argument about why this man deserved to be slandered by Mitch MicConnell’s right-hand hatchet man.
As someone who found out about him about a year ago… Yea he’s said dumb stuff, but who hasn’t?
From the rest I’ve seen he’s constantly pushing leftist candidates and ideas and he seems to be in a space that’s dominated by right wing Nazi dipshits, so having him in there is a good thing.
The whole nepo baby comment I don’t know and don’t give a shit if true, the entire right is funded and bankrolled by Russians and fascists so I’m not going to nit pick.
On the matter of nepotism, his uncle is Cenk Uygur who is the co-creator of The Young Turks (a progressive news show). Hasan acknowledges that he benefited from nepotism to launch his career as a political commentator since he got his start working for The Young Turks with his uncle. It’s not like he hides it or presents himself as “self-made” or any other bullshit like that, so I don’t really have a problem with it either.
So your solution is to support people that are rich? Do you know what a demagogue is? Well Stalin was one and I put money on it this guy is one also.
I’ve said dumb shit but Hasan is genuinely a egomaniacal pathological liar and frequently calls for violence both explicitly and in coded language. He is also ridiculously, like insanely slanderous to anyone who looks at him wrong. He fosters a community of people that other creators are terrified of so they walk on eggshells around him.
You’re an H3H3 fan, you don’t get to talk about fostering communities of people that other creators are terrified of so they walk on eggshells around him.
Ok now I know you are either a troll or shill. Everything you said is just wrong and lies and you won’t be able to back any of it up becuase there is hours of video of him proving the exact opposite.
The only time I’ve seen him say vile things is when he’s making fun of Conservatives and ironically saying the vile shit they actually believe.
IE this entire fucking post and the reason for the lawsuit!!
You must be watching the wrong Hasan Piker, maybe you are watching the right wing version of Hasan Piker? Pasan Hiker perhaps.
I envy you more than you could possibly imagine. Do yourself a favor and just don’t find out.
Jennings later accused Piker of “calling for Black voters to be lynched” and referred to what he called “the Piker plan of returning our country to lynchings.”
The original footage came from an October 2024 Twitch broadcast in which Piker was reacting to a debate between two Black political commentators — one liberal and one conservative. After the conservative participant criticized “woke DAs,” Piker sarcastically suggested the commentator wanted to return to an era of racial discrimination and lynchings, according to the complaint.
“He said, ‘We need more Klansmen, OK? Can we go back to a better time when lynchings were happening?’” Piker said during the stream in reaction to the commentator’s argument.
Piker’s attorneys argue that the edited video removed the words “He said,” along with his laughter and surrounding commentary, to intentionally make it appear as though Piker was expressing his own beliefs rather than mocking someone else’s.
The dispute emerged amid the Michigan Senate race, where the edited video was circulated to criticize progressive Democratic candidate Abdul El-Sayed over his association with Piker.
Seems like Scott Jennings is going to get nailed to the wall for that, it’s pretty indefensible.
Or, I should say, CNN will. Or, I should say, Skydance will. Or, I should say, David Ellison will. Or, I should say, Larry Ellison('s pocketbook) will.
Somehow the tax payers will foot the bill 😂
maybe this will help with Pikers antisemitism payments
good luck mr misogynist
He better settle and it’ll cost him
What I have learned about this hasan kid I’ve liked.
And I’m feeling strong that my read on him is that under no circumstance is he gonna settle for a sum that is less than actual, meaningful, blood.
Or let Scott chicken out and pay him the full $72mil
Looks like Piker is getting a new gamer chair and a home gym made entirely out of gold. Ethically sourced, obviously.
That doesn’t actually sound a ton different than literally any attack ad airing for any candidate at the moment.
If hope both parties lose this one, with a long trial for a one dollar verdict.
Neither person in this lawsuit is a political candidate. There are different rules for political ads than for what you can just say on TV about a public person.
Piker makes all his income by being popular and from his public image. If what Scott Jennings lied about causes, or may cause, Piker to lose income (by losing stream views because people now think he’s a racist), he has a right to sue Jennings for causing that to happen.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
If hope both parties lose this one
You genuinely have no idea how courts work
I literally explained the scenario where that is possible.
it’s fun when two shit bags get in court with eachother
You’re not just stupid, you’re ugly
Hasan has his eye on Ted Cruz next:
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The clip in question is outrageous. Jennings should have his ass handed to him over this.
Seriously why does anyone give a shit about a twitch streamer?
Your orange cheeto master is a reality TV host, a failed business man who only made money through Russian mafia money laundering a pedophile and a rapist.
Can’t stand reality stars they’re just as bad as streamers.
this guy gets attacked on Fox News more than entire minority groups, he’s kind of like AOC, more famous for being hated by republicans than being liked by democrats.
A lot of people watch twitch streamers or related videos/clips on yt. You can’t discount the amount of reach or influence a popular streamer can have.
I can and I will.
That’s a dumb take that’ll leave you in the dust. It’s wide spread. There’s no real way to deny that without denying reality.
If you said they shouldn’t be as popular and have as much impact as they do, sure I’m right there with ya, but they do.
I don’t care about him personally, but the story is about a bad faith news commentator removing the “he said” nesting from a quote to make it sound like he was claiming precisely the viewpoint that he was criticizing. And that shit shouldn’t fly.
Also they’re trying to run that story to smear not only him but also a progressive political candidate currently running a tight race. So yeah we should absolutely be calling it out.
Like I don’t have any particular interest, love or hate for Piker. I haven’t ever watched more than a few clips of him. But he does matter, both as a person and a political influencer. And your question is bullshit elitism. Saying “Why does anyone give a shit about [blank]?” and then filling that blank with any type of person you find frivolous, not for the content of their character or their opinions voiced, but for something like their chosen job or hobby, is fucking dumb. Particularly in relation to a politically active person in what is ostensibly a democracy. Everyone matters in a democracy. That is the actual point.
You may as well have said, “Why does anyone give a shit about a janitor?” Well if that janitor has a lot of political influence, good or bad, you should give a shit. What the fuck does it matter if he is a janitor, a twitch streamer, or any other role? If they are talking and people are listening and it is effecting people’s political insights and mindset and vote, it doesn’t matter what they do for work or how they got their audience. It matters that others are listening. And it also matters that he is the object of political ire from his ideological opponents. No matter how dumb any of it is, these things have real tangible effects on our world. You don’t have to pay him any mind or grant his opinions any credence or like him or hate him or feel anything at all about him to acknowledge that he objectively does matter to the political sphere.
A decade ago, people where dismissive of Trump because he was (and is) a fucking caricature of a wealthy womanizing narcissist with a big mouth. “Who gives a shit about some rich real-estate playboy?”, one might have asked. But his big mouth runs and millions of voters eat up every word. Do you think Trump’s bullshit matters now?
Maggot is furious because he’s a centrist shill finally coming to terms with the fact that the progressives aren’t just right, they’re far more popular than the neoliberal coalition.
Maggot is mad that leftists get things done without bending to fascists.
Lets see CrimesLegalNow furious card.
Hassan is not a lefty.
Janitors aren’t typically known for their narcissism like twitch streamers are.
Whenever you are using what someone is “known for’ as your criticism, you lose legitimacy to your argument. See, Scott Jennings intentionally tried to make Piker “known for” lynchings. The “known for” something critique is a Trump style attack…” Everybody is talking about how Obama was born in Africa. Sounds like we shouldn’t trust that guy.". It’s lazy and malicious.
If you want to criticize Piker, do so for demonstrable conduct. All you did instead was signal to me your argument is bs.
He forms parasocial relationships with people for money like all twitch streamers or other streamers.
You don’t have to believe it I’m not trying to change your mind.
He forms parasocial relationships with people for money like all twitch streamers or other streamers.
The para social relationship is you malding over someone who doesn’t know you exist.
and clowns do pratfalls to entertain people, or apparently, belittle people on lemmy to further their agenda.
You’re calling me a clown so I think you’re the only one belittling people in this conversation.
But by all means continue to do so if it makes you feel better.
only if you own the clause,
for someone who asks why we should even consider him important, you are very consistent in your attempt at dismissing him as a person. probably because he it’s important, and his arguments are hard to assail.
So you are using “twitch streamer” as shorthand for “narcissist” then? So stack on a weird prejudice and stereotyping to your elitism. And everything else I said still stands. Even if we granted your prejudice, “since when did narcissism in politics ever effect anyone, right? Who gives a shit about narcissists?” … 🤨
You might want to try reading my comment instead of whatever the fuck you just did there.
It is so weird that you are pretending he’s just some random nobody, but then seem to get really defensive about his politics and the amount of clout he seems to have with said politics.
Like, you don’t have to post here if you don’t really care about him. But, the fact that you keep posting seems to imply that you absolutely do care about him. Idk, man, that combined with your stance of how great centrism is, it looks like you want to look nonchalant about him without having to defend why you don’t like him (or more likely, his politics.)
I dig Maggoty but yeah, it’s super weird. Extremely Reddit-brained take, like when a beloved rapper or something dies, coming in to say “I don’t know who that is”
Like okay that’s cool, you’re on the internet and can find out easily.
I have no interest in US politics or streamers, but I recognize this is way bigger than “stream guy talk about politic” at this point. Cumfart is being foolish thinking “just a streamer” isn’t a big deal anymore. We’re not far from a president who was a streamer, whether we like it or don’t wanna live on this planet anymore.
Where do I get defensive about his politics besides you just making that up now?
This entire thread, you’re butthurt about it.
I did. It was a quick read. You said unlike janitors, twitch streamers are known for often being narcissists… But please tell me what other nugget of wisdom I missed.
Because he’s providing real political and moral leadership while the “leadership” internal to the Democratic party are cuckold failures.
Hasan backed candidates have basically wiped the floor throughout both the Democratic primaries and now general elections. As people have recognized the failures of both centrism and bipartisanship, explicitly socialist views expressed through a relatable, non academic, non corporate views have real purchase. Expect them to continue to grow into a household name. You better get comfortable in this new reality.
Hasan backed candidates have basically wiped the floor throughout both the Democratic primaries
Which is one reason dear cumfart (this comment can’t get removed for using a username right?) is so upset and attempting to deflect from a very important slander lawsuit.
Will be amazing to see Jennings either have to do an apology or see how low he goes to try and get out of it
Hasan isn’t doing anything important he’s literally just a twitch streamer.
He actually agrees with you, he’s just a twitch streamer who does political commentary and occasional activism when it aligns with his ideology. He would happily stay in his lane. But the democrats and republicans have turned him into a big deal and gone out of their way to slander him.
Did he switch to mostly political stuff now? Last I heard he was a “reaction” streamer that mostly stole others content.
He’s been a political commentator even before he became a streamer. He probably still reacts to content on the account that political commentary largely depends on reacting to interviews, news clips, articles etc. I’m sure he probably does non-political reactions, such as the recent H3H3 implosion, but as with political commentary he adds a lot of commentary ontop the content. There was even a viral clip of casuallyexplained calling out Hasan for constantly pausing videos to add his own commentary.
The idea that he mostly stole content from others is one of the multitude of lies his haters have told over the years. He’s a far cry from the react streamers who consume content in its entirety and add only “uh-uh, yeah, right.”
All I’ve seen from him is watching a video and offering nothing but the occasional laugh, then rushing to stop it before any self promotion from the creator can play.
He has something like over 20 000 hours streamed. I’m sure you’re going to run into that as well, but if that’s all you’ve ever seen… I guess you must be the worlds unluckiest viewer to always find him doing just that.
I mean you can literally open his stream right at this very moment, he’s not just sitting there “reacting” like a houseplant. He’s not even watching a video others made.
He’s suing Scott Jennings. That’s pretty important in my book.
Who is Scott Jennings? Another podcaster?
Scott Jennings is an American conservative political strategist, commentator and writer. During the George W. Bush administration, Jennings was appointed special assistant to the president and deputy director of political affairs in February 2006.
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Except maybe for Destiny, who created him.
You’re giving way too much credit to that sexual extortionist.
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It’s one small part of Hasan’s trajectory. You’re giving too much credit to Destiny.
Trump isn’t doing anything he’s literally just a face from TV
It’s hard having political discussions when this is the level of understanding people have.
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The irony…
They won’t understand it though
What do you agree the president of the us doesn’t make policy?
I like you, you’re a great poster here, but it’s wild to pretend that “just a steamer” means they’re unimportant nowadays. We’re not far from a streamer president in CURRENT YEAR, the amount of influence is incredible. I don’t like that fact, but hey, I gotta adapt.
It’s basically impossible to have a streamer president in 2026.
Maybe the democrats could have one in 2028 but why compete with the reality star republicans in a race to the bottom?
I think a race to the bottom is the only way in the US… shit, anything is better than the opposition they try to throw at the party of evil lawl
I wasn’t saying streamer president immediately, but we’re for sure on track for streamer president by 2040. People love entertainer presidents (I mean…) and “streamer” or “YouTuber” is far more recognized as a parasocial-able figure to latch onto than “traditional media guy” at this point.
Edit: oh! I meant “In CURRENT YEAR we’re not far from a streamer president” rather than “we will have one right now”—I’m sorry for my bad verbiage in my other comment!
Weird that you think interviewing, fundraising, and getting out volunteers to doorknock/phonebank for DSA endorsed candidates nationwide isn’t anything important
He literally canvases and makes appearances at rallies for the candidates he’s supporting. Maybe do more research than none at all next time?
Also you seem to be ignoring the answer to this question you were already given, deliberately i have to imagine. Hasan gets views, gets attention. Views and attention are power, they’re influence. If Hasan has 100k viewers that’s 100k potential votes for a candidate.
What are you not understanding about that? It seems really straightforward that views and influence = power.
I’m not going to spend time researching a twitch streamer dude.
I don’t know who he is.
But if I do know who he is, he’s not very famous.
But if he is famous, he’s not doing anything newsworthy.
But if he is doing something newsworthy, it’s not very important.
But if he is doing something important, I didn’t do any research about him.Lots of words to put in my mouth.
My first comment was ‘who gives a shit about a twitch streamer’ so obviously I know a bit about him I’ve just never wasted time in my life watch any twitch streamer.
And I’m definitely not going to research them either.
Sorry, I forgot the last line:
And if I didn’t do any research, it’s because i already know I’m right and everyone else is wrong.
That’s your opinion mang thats fine. And just like the failure of the Biden administration to do anything to stop a genocide , you can choose to see or not see whatever you like.
Hasan is a political commentator who reads and responds to the news outloud. And they do it in a way which most people under the age of 40 would do it, in a mocking, casual sometimes cynical view. And people can relate to that; they aren’t just reenforcing establishment views.
Here’s what its going to come down to: Hasan picked the winners. The canddiates they endorsed and supported, they made it through their primaries, and after making it through the primaries, they are winning their elections. They are more ideologically similar to Hasan and most of the people here, than you or other centrist/ rightwing politics. But more importantly, they picked winners, and supported them early when early support makes the difference. That makes them a king maker.
Lemmy hates centrists but we’re a better representation of the majority of the voters.
How’s the genocides doing now?
I know Biden supported Ukraine much more and I’m also thinking there was a reason why that cunt Netanyahu wanted Biden gone and Trump in.
Lemmy hates centrists but we’re a better representation of the majority of the voters
So Harris is president?
I mean no you are not. Centrism has lost every election where its been tried. You don’t represent anyone. Socialism/ Social Democracy is far more popular with voters.
How’s the genocides doing now?
Its your genocide bruh, you own it, so you tell me.
Registered voters are abandoning bOtH pArTiEs, now down to 28% each; independents are up to 44% of voters. That’s gone up like 5% since Biden was in office, mang
Pew research. You better call them and tell them that you disagree so that they can fix it!
Independents are not centrists. That’s not how this works. Its not how any of this works.
It’s worked well when the candidates hasn’t been women because America, the democrats and leftists seem to have a big problem with women in power.
Just like how supporting a genocide handed the election to fascists, your blinders say more about you than they do about reality.
I dislike Harris for many, many reasons and being a woman is not one of them.
He’s more important than you, you’re literally just a Lemmy poster, come on now
I don’t pretend to be anything but so I don’t know what that has to do with anything.
Sue Scott Jennings already maggoty. Shit or get off the pot.
He hasn’t defamed me.
Has that ever stopped you before?
the same reason anyone gives a shit about any celebrity, viewers are influence, friend.
Now go forth, and say this no more. The more you know
Twitch streamers aren’t celebrities and the only reason he’s even relevant is because the republicans decided he is the devil and a liability for democrats.
Trying to suggest that streamers aren’t influential in current year requires you to either live under a rock or be above the age of 60. It’s like trying to suggest that YouTubers aren’t influential in 2010.
Streamers are influential. Having 40k concurrent viewers is insane, and the actual metrics behind just how insane it is ends up being pretty difficult to parse without having someone else do the analytics for you.
Last time I checked the average time a viewer actually stays in a stream ends up being a few minutes. That also heavily depends on the streamer and what kind of content they produce. Hasan pulling tens of thousands of concurrent viewers is nuts and places him in the upper echelons of the top 1% of streamers on twitch.
It’s like trying to say that Assmoldbald isn’t influential. You are just wrong, even if you hate having to admit it.
Edit: I should say, I think Hasan is peak dudebro energy and routinely shoves his foot in his mouth. That being said, the man is influential - for better or worse.
Defending sone dude you’ve never met like he’s your best friend is the definition of a parasocial relationship.
Getting angry at some dude you’ve never met like he killed your family is the definition of a parasocial relationship.
If you want to go down that route so is this unhealthy amount of anger about them in the news.
Especially when for such a valid reason that also could cause issues for overall terrible human being Scott Jennings
Inb4 you’re a Destiny viewer
Edit: ‘peak dudebro energy… shoves his foot in his mouth’ these things aren’t compliments. I’d be more worried about aligning my messaging with the fascists, which you’re 100% doing.
What the fuck is a destiny viewer?
I’m going to treat you as if you’re not being
coydishonest, at which point - you’re better off not knowing. If you want to know more, go watch Professor Dave’s videos on him.That being said, fascists are bad. Don’t do their job for them. If you want to tilt at windmills you’re free to do so, don’t be surprised when you get slapped in the face for it.
The democrats have also decided he’s the devil and a liability. When he’s got both factions upset, he’s gotta be doing something right.
Define “celebrity.” I certainly would consider many twitch streamers celebrities and public figures, even if I don’t care about or watch them. Many of these streams pull more viewers than mainstream media.
Narcissists fixate on people. The right is full of those, so this happens. Happened with Clinton, AOC, now Piker.
Left too.
They fixated on Clinton, Sanders and Harris.
Yep
Whether we agree with him or not (I wish he was more of a revolutionary than a reformist), he is wielding a large amount of influence on the shifting political landscape of the US Empire.
Because they want to believe he is not a piece of shit.
And hope.
And boy, are there bad news about that.
i see “.de” and hope you’ll take this kindly.
news is never pluralized. so even if you have multiple news stories, the stories can be plural, but the news is always singular.
“And boy, is there bad news about that.”
Because being smart is not acceptable in America.
Because being smart is not acceptable in America.
Piker has a degree in communications and political sci from Rutgers. What do you got?
I have a Masters from UCLA lmao.
Then you should be able to deduce that Americans listening to someone educated on these topics isn’t proof that being smart is not acceptable in America.
It’s more of a broad truism than an attack on Piker per se. The fact is, we have a culture that rewards stupidity.
I agree generally with you, this just isn’t relevant to this particular conversation.
I mean, for a smart guy - Hasan has said some really stupid shit in the past. That’s what gets views though.
