• Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    5 days ago

    The amount of bots flooding this comment section says enough at how bad the datacenter attack was for the russian regime.

    So many day old .ml accounts spewing propaganda.

  • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    5 days ago

    People are real passionate about it.

    Based on this comment section, we absolutely need to study the issue further.

  • ramble81@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    5 days ago

    Anecdotally, I have seen much less pro-Republican sentiment on the Facebook feed for my local newspaper. Usually anything related to Paxton or Trump is heavily “yay MAGA! go USA!” and name calling against liberals. Since the attack, I’ve barely seen any of that narrative and it’s people calling them out for their actions.

    Could that mean that the entire user base had a change of heart and flipped? Sure, but unlikely.

  • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    6 days ago

    It was demonstrably never true to begin with. We’re in a post factual meme driven news cycle.

    “In war, truth is the first casualty”

    • catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 days ago

      This .ml account is one day old and it’s trying to tell us all that Russia is defending itself by invading another country because America bad. All this in a post about how a data center that was destroyed a few days ago lowered Russian bot traffic. It really doesn’t get more transparent than this. One day old .ml account.

    • glibg10b@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 days ago

      In the past, when I saw the same posts on both Reddit and Lemmy, the Lemmy comments always showed more critical thinking and skepticism where it was appropriate. Nothing was taken at face value; memes were not considered a source of information, and there were always many comments looking for verifiable sources. This was in stark contrast to Reddit.

      But, apparently, something changed. When the memes about the bombings started coming in, every comment was based on the premise that the meme was true. “2/3s??? Wow, I was expecting a big number but not a sizeable majority” “reddit too, all the traffic has been quiet.”

      Fortunately, as time went on, the more critical comments got voted to the top, and this spurred more skepticism. But the damage had already been done. The first wave of comments is always more representative of peoples’ uninfluenced reactions; seeing them made me lose my faith in Lemmy.

      • mildseason@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        5 days ago

        Spot on. It feels like people are more tribal on Lemmy. Just look at the downvotes on the comment you replied. Straight facts but downvoted cuz .ml

        Disappointing to say the least. But maybe this is natural due to the way instances work. Kind of separates us into teams by default.

        I don’t care what instance you’re from. Use your brain. Don’t believe anything without actual evidence. This is war. Always be skeptical.

    • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      6 days ago

      Still no harm in damaging russias economy a couple more times this way. Keep em coming 🤖🚁💣

      • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        6 days ago

        This may be a controversial opinion for those only sacrificing healthcare and education, but I believe war may in fact cause harm.

          • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            5 days ago

            John Bolton wanted to destroy Russia long before that.

            The Rand Corporation wrote a whitepaper that basically translates to “how to fuck up Russia and take all their shit”.

            • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              5 days ago

              Hey quick question, let’s assume everything you think about Russia is true. Why is putin playing along? Why is he emptying soviet vehicle stockpiles and losing troops on droves to a place he said in 2014 he could take in 2 weeks? If the US or NATO actually wanted to invade Russia, now is better than yesterday, and tomorrow will be even better. So why continue a war that only weakens Russia?

              I guess the ultimate question is what is putin trying to accomplish with the invasion?

              • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                5 days ago

                Russia’s natural resources are largely untouched. It has the same GDP as South Korea.

                Arctic thawing is only now making them accessible. This is why Trump is so desperate to control Greenland and Canada, and it unfortunately seems to be working.

                I don’t need to think something is true when I have accurate information. I can know that it is true.

                What metrics can you provide that Russia is getting weaker and not steonger? With the advent of BRICS this will only continue at a greater pace. Countries like Russia and China are ascendant.

                It sounds like you’re describing America and Europe’s decline.

                Russia is fighting an existential threat on their border. That’s what they’re trying to accomplish.

                Zelensky campaigned on peace through the Minsk Agreement. He said that America was trying to weaken Russia at the expense of Ukrainians. He won in a landslide, winning every Oblast except the Banderite heartland of Lvov.

                Yet, he was powerless to stop the Azov Brigade from shelling the Donetsk City Center.

                Now Zelensky is just a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to Nazis.

                • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  5 days ago

                  A wall of text to a simple question. Classic.

                  What metrics can you provide that Russia is getting weaker and not steonger? With the advent of BRICS this will only continue at a greater pace. Countries like Russia and China are ascendant.

                  I mentioned depleted stockpiles specifically, but go ahead and pretend I was talking about economics.

                  Russia is fighting an existential threat on their border. That’s what they’re trying to accomplish.

                  So they take all of Ukraine. Russia now has a border with a nato country, the thing they’re allegedly going to war to prevent. Fucking brilliant.

            • catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              5 days ago

              This .ml account is one day old and it’s trying to tell us all that Russia is defending itself by invading another country because America bad. All this in a post about how a data center that was destroyed a few days ago lowered Russian bot traffic. It really doesn’t get more transparent than this. One day old .ml account.

        • Cypress@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          6 days ago

          Yeah maybe Russia should stop their invasion of Ukraine so the war can end.

          Similarly: the only reason there’s a war in Iran is because the United States sent its Navy there.

          Imperialist invaders fucking off and going home challenge (impossible)

          • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            5 days ago

            Not sure what you thought would happen when we bankrolled a coup on their border.

            This is all you need to know about the West’s adversarial nature toward Russia.

            Russia is fighting a defensive war against an existential threat.

            You’re rooting for a sports team.

            • catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              5 days ago

              This .ml account is one day old and it’s trying to tell us all that Russia is defending itself by invading another country because America bad. All this in a post about how a data center that was destroyed a few days ago lowered Russian bot traffic. It really doesn’t get more transparent than this. One day old .ml account.

              • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                5 days ago

                That data center story was found to be false as soon as it came out, but you’re still riding high on it I see.

                I don’t have any data on ad hominems, only natural resources and other real things.

                America bad? Well, we’re currently arming over 80% of all dictatorships globally, sooo… You tell me. Russia isn’t doing that. China isn’t doing that.