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Which high up in their church needed a transfusion?
Oh, don’t be so cynical. Maybe one of their elders bought a blood bank.
Yeah, but then they would come up with some internal blessing requirement for donated blood to ensure it stays in network.
I believe!!! That Satan has a hold of you. I believe! That the Lord God has sent me here! And I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!!
It’s kind of interesting how religions handle change in their theology. The Catholics have very few teachings that have been designated “infallible” - almost everything is potentially up for grabs (https://uscatholic.org/articles/201105/is-there-a-list-of-infallible-teachings/). Judaism has a whole thing about “since God gave the Torah to us at Sinai, it is now ours to interpret, and God himself said that we should rule on legal matters by majority vote (Exodus 23:2)” (https://www.mayimachronim.com/not-in-heaven-the-snake-oven-of-akhnai/) I am sure other religions have their own get out of jail cards, too.
Prayers for those who died of blood loss 2 hours before God pushed the “allow transfusions” hotfix ☹️ 🙏
Hospitals in areas with large JW populations have opaque IV bags available, and at patient’s request will lie to visitors about what is in it. Members have been “following their conscience” for decades, and I suspect this change is more about not ostrasizing those members than actually changing behavior.
I wonder if they are using AI for their revisions now.
But do they get christmas?
Aaahhh, so god visited somebody to give this great news? We love in the times where there are cameras everywhere, so where is the video of this momentous event?
Ah yes, the god that never changes.
Whenever I see stupid shit like JW refusing blood, i’m reminded of the parable of the man in the flood, who keeps getting rescuers coming to him time and time again, only to refuse it all with the declaration that god would save them… and then they finally die in the flood, and they angerly accost got about why god didnt save him, and god is all like “Fuck you, You fucking idiot. You refused every rescue that came your way. This is your fault for being stupid”
I’ve seen it in the form of a comic or a short story and God literally said “who do you think sent the rescuers” which if you believe in God is kinda how it’s supposed to work I believe, rather than God straight up lifting you out if the water
Well, sadly most user manuals for religions, are filled with stupid shit, with the odd exception like “Love thy neighbor” (which apparently has the corollary “but fuck anyone far away enough to not be your neighbor”).
Christians don’t even make themselves eunuchs any more!
What next? Women having the authority to teach? Madness! I miss traditional Christian values.
So… which higher up at the JW organization needed a life saving transfusion? No way they changed their minds on this unprompted.
The hierarchical structure of this organisation is absolutely vile.
Also,the ones out witnessing at the train Station or going door to door are usually at the bottom of the hierarchy,so I for one am always politenl to them,even if i dont engage. It’s not nice to mess with them or slam the door or whatever.
*Khorne did not like that*
Despite the adjustment, the organisation was firm that its longstanding prohibition on whole-blood transfusions has not changed. It anchored the continued ban on its reading of biblical instructions to “abstain from blood,” signalling that the shift applies only to the four major components, not to transfusions in their entirety.
People died because of this and now they just go “we looked at the rules again and we think they actually mean something else”. What the fuck is this? The Supreme Court?
It’s stupid. All they had to do was prohibit eating of blood 70 years ago and nobody would have blinked an eye, because that’s exactly what the verse meant in its entirety. The whole blood loophole they’ve done here to save face is meaningless, since whole blood is almost never used except in severe trauma and even then you can use fractions and have a pretty good chance of recovering. A whole lot of people had to die to get here. It sucks.
and “abstain from blood” in biblical times for sure meant “transfusions” too *head -> desk"
It’s probably because they had issues with blood types.
I’d say the only “blood types” around where those people drinking blood.
You forget that God knows all and can see future technology. We’re still waiting for the passage “Thou shalt not step into thy transporter, for it causeth loss of thy soul” to become relevant.
An old JW boss of mine almost lost his wife during the birth of his first child when she was badly haemorrhaging at home.
I tried asking him about it (a few years after the event) and he was obviously defensive, but the gist was that they wouldn’t have taken a transfusion, and that he would have accepted losing her.
I’m not convinced - I think the decision was more dictated by her than him - but that would have been the end result.
Absolute madness
Controlling men like that need to have a life changing surgery of their own before they harm more women like that.
I prescribe a sharp metal pick and a hammer personally.
I think the decision was more dictated by her than him
I think the point is that he was never part of the decision.
You’re correct
I think you missed the point of this. I believe it was her influence more than his, based on other factors I’m aware of.
United you’re referring to the writers of the church doctrine as the controlling men.
I’m not convinced - I think the decision was more dictated by her than him - but that would have been the end result.
I missed the point as well, I took this to mean, “he wanted her to give birth without a transfusion, but I’m not convinced [it would’ve actually happened] - I think the decision [to have a transfusion or not] was more dictated by her [and she would’ve got one]”
The controlling men in this scenario are the 8 bastards in Brooklyn known as The Governing Body who make up these rules and dictate whether a person will lose their entire family and or social/support network for failing to obey them.
Worse than the old white Mormon bastards.
Did you tell him his religion is made up dogshit and there is no god?
Well what did they witness this time?
Christianity also updates its Ts&Cs on occasion, like in 2007 when Pope John Paul II had a document commisioned, the publication of which was also authorised by Pope Benedict XVI, that basically said unbaptised children now go to heaven instead of limbo.
That was a good retcon though
At some point they HAVE to realize they’re just making this shit up.
The Mormon church ‘conveniently’ decided to change their rhetoric about non-white people being marked by god because of past sin, right around the time of the Civil Rights Movement.
They were also firmly disproven by DNA evidence in their claim that native Americans descended from Israelites. Oops.
