• m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip
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    26 days ago

    What conclusion am I supposed to draw from this? Am I supposed to now be sympathetic to Russia because of the issues with corporate American media? You are making wild assumptions of where I get my information from and what my views are.

    I have disdain for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine just as I have disdain for Israel’s treatment of Palestine and the United States’ enablement of this.

    Maybe you didn’t realize this, but the very same people withholding the full release of the Epstein files and allowing so many to skirt accountability for their horrible crimes are not exactly friendly to Ukraine.

    No amount of bloviating about how supposedly unfairly the media treats figures like Putin and Trump is going to get me to support their expansionistic endeavors and immoral wars.

    These vile, expansionistic behaviors are not simply different people with different viewpoints. The purveyors of these actions and their supporters are owed no tolerance.

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      25 days ago

      I have disdain for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine just as I have disdain for Israel’s treatment of Palestine and the United States’ enablement of this.

      No you do not. You’re lying.

      You clearly support coups and interventions in sovereign nations to overthrow their democratic government. Even Ukrainian courts have ruled that the Euromaidan massacre was perpetrated by far right (swoboda / nazi) elements. It’s all documented and historical facts.

      And you cannot know the historical facts and then deny that you are on team pedophilia. Because you’re repeating all the talking points of the fascist pedophile team. From Bush in 2008 to Obama to Trump and Biden, the US strategy was long set for Ukraine and Georgia. You just choose not to listen to facts or do the work yourself of looking them up and instead repeat the hegemonic talking points.

      That’s you! A goon who does not care when a nation is manipulated, democratic governments are toppled and people massacred! You say you don’t support imperialism but that is what you’re doing right here! By denying simple historical facts!

      And you call us “vile” lol. And you know what is funny? We don’t even really support Russia! It’s more like a default opposition to you because of your lies and hate and aggression and bloodlust and warmongering. In your arrogance you want to expand your “liberal world order” all around the world. I oppose that, but I don’t support Putin.

      You however are team pedophile and team genocide.

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        25 days ago

        If you have to assert that you know my position better than I do, you’re losing the argument.

        It’s honestly really messed up of you to say that those who disagree with you are on “team pedophile.”

        Me expressing that I have disdain both for what Israel and the US are doing with Palestine and what Russia is doing with Ukraine shouldn’t be controversial. It shouldn’t be getting you this worked up.

        I will not be engaging with any of your inane, unsourced ramblings because you are not engaging in this conversation with respect and a genuine desire to understand. Your staggering arrogance prevents you from genuinely comprehending my position since you’re clearly more interested claiming that I’m somehow lying about my genuine views.

        Nothing that you wrote accurately describes my viewpoints. It’s pathetic that you have to craft a fiction about my views in order to feel better about yourself.

        It’s pretty clear that people are not being unfair to you in other interactions. You lead with being antagonistic and insulting and profoundly fail to genuinely engage with the conversation. Instead, you craft a fiction of what you wish my views are so you can tear that down instead. You demonstrate a profound lack of social skills and emotional intelligence.

        Do better, and for your own sake, I sure hope you don’t go accusing people of being on “team pedophile” in person. It won’t go well for you.

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          25 days ago

          Read the thread. Those are the rules established in this comment chain. “Team vileness” vs “Team pedophile”

          You can only be one or the other. Which makes you team pedophile. Again, not my rules. I don’t like them either. But them’s the rules of this thread and the OP and how any pacifists or anti imperialists are treated by most of lemmy.world.

          And you barged into this comment chain “just asking questions”. NOW you want to be treated with respect? After allying yourself with Team Pedophile and Team Genocide?

          Sorry I’m just a very vile person lol. I’m “just clowning” lol. Obviously I do not really know what your political positions are, but if we have these kinds of threads on top of lemmy then it only matters what team you’re on to completely demonize you. Hey it’s just a meme bro don’t get too upset.

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            25 days ago

            Read the thread. Those are the rules established in this comment chain. “Team vileness” vs “Team pedophile”

            You can only be one or the other.

            Thank you for distilling every single discussion with a tankie.

            Feel free to post another long post that a) changes subject b) rehashes. russian propaganda c) calls people names.

            You free thinking genious you.

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              25 days ago

              Oh this pearl clutching is fucking amazing after smearing “tankies” as allying with slave holders. Like completely free of any shame.

              Well enjoy your AfD victory in Germany. Clearly liberals must be doing something right if it’s going so well /s