• drcobaltjedi@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    As someone dependent on that canal living in the states, do it. Make that dumb fuck hurt and all of his dumb fuck supporters hurt too.

    Iran’s got america by the balls for oil right now why not kick us while we’re down.

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      As a nation, we’ve had it coming. 250 years of bloody, ruthless empire was bound to come back at us. The sooner it does, the sooner people will learn some fucking compassion

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          2 months ago

          The royal we, referring to our government. We aren’t necessarily taking the fall for it, but unless we restructure our government and economy, we’ll be the ones that feel the effects of their genocidal reign.

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          2 months ago

          Sorry mate MAGA has sealed the date of the US. You’re going to take the fall and live in a shit hole country for many decades.

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        2 months ago

        As a nation blah blah blah, agreed.

        As a person with multiple different lineages of subjugated minorities running through my veins, I am tired of having to hurt and having mine hurt in the hierarchy games of “The White Man”, the colonizer, the imperialist.

        This will not teach or create compassion, for all that it may be geopolitically necessary for a better world.

        Every single time a force has risen to poke that bear, it has always ended short of finishing the job, giving rise not to compassion but to a simple dormancy of evil for a time, and minorities splattered as collateral.

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              2 months ago

              Technically, it probably includes some overlap, so not necessarily incorrect. If that 77% includes most of the 33% (because, presumably, most of the fash supporters don’t want to bash the fash) then that leaves a remaining ~23% who are willing to bash some fash.

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                2 months ago

                If the math doesn’t math, go fash. -American corpo backed leadership through all of American history

                • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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                  2 months ago

                  More like ‘if the opposition leader is only 95% good then let’s stay home and let fash win!’ - Leftists everywhere in this country.

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        2 months ago

        Honestly though, the world needed a strong player atleast pretending to care about freedom. Sad to see y’all going tits up now.

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    2 months ago

    It’s not that Canada has no options to escalate the trade war, it’s that they recognize the obvious truth that escalation hurts both countries

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      2 months ago

      And the US legislative branch has a ticking clock over their heads with the midterm elections in November so turning other knobs are probably contingent on those results.

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        2 months ago

        Trump and MAGA and ICE are going to steal the elections.

        Not sure if you missed it, but the Supreme Court essentially just mandated that the Federal Government must be provided with a full list of every registered voter any mailed ballot is to be sent to, 60 days prior to the election.

        They then get to review those lists, and throw out whoever the fuck they want.

        That in and of itself, in any other time, would be a Constitutional Crisis… but the whole strategy is ‘flood the zone’, baffle us all with so much bullshit we literally cannot even comprehend it all.

        They’ll literally just declare everyone who publically disagrees with their election proceedings to be terrorists, more or less straight out of the Nazi playbook.

        … Canada does not have time on its side.

        Nor do Americans, to be frank, but that’s not the subject of this thread.

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      2 months ago

      Counterpoint, escalating the petty stuff would be beneficial.

      IMO Canada should launch an investigation into the Epstein files and bring it up after stating the short and obvious things about the trade dispute.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 months ago

        That is, imo, a much more effective counter.

        You don’t play an abuser’s game.

        Trump is a rapist, he thinks like one.

        Force him to play a different game.

        … while also simultaneously gathering allies, and bunkering down.

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    2 months ago

    The Boundary Waters Treaty of 1909 means Canada can’t close the canal and sadly the treaty also states that canadian and american ships can not be treated differently when it comes to transit-taxes.

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      2 months ago

      Those treaties make absolutely no mention of ship transit between Lake Erie and Lake “America”. Sure they can’t transit tax american ships between Erie and Ontario. But they sure as shit can tax between Erie and “America”.

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        2 months ago

        Yes, but I would assume that a sane country like Canada still feels obligated to respect international law.

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    Sounds like they dont understand how the great lakes shipping works. Obviously, portions pass through the great lakes where you could stick to either countries waters, but the rivers connecting the lakes (and the st Lawrence seaway) have portions that can only be transited through Canada (like the welland canal), but there are also portions that can only be transited through the US.

    Restriction of trade on the great lakes would be dumb, and it would hurt everyone, but I can guarantee it would hurt Canada more because most Canadians live on the great lakes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lawrence_Seaway

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      2 months ago

      Please, please for the love of god, tell me that a US aircraft carrier is physically incapable of passing through the St. Lawrence Seaway.

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    2 months ago

    Sounds like a great idea. Any reason the fee cant only apply to American boats, travelers and businesses? Seems like a good start

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    Based on what I saw today in terms of people leaving the local Walmart, I’m gonna say the new name for this Strait better have something to do with toilet paper and paper towels. Every single cart seemed like it had giant packages of one, the other, or both.