In the community page of my investment platform, the older folks who invested in Diageo, the parent company of Guiness, are genuinely shocked and finally convinced that younger generations are drinking less because Diageo is struggling financially.
Nevermind the health reasons why drinking alcohol is bad, it just really have become expensive to go out, let alone go drinking alcohol!
I’ve read that certain GLPs used for weight loss can also cause a distaste for alcohol. Someone that had been a somewhat regular drinker was interviewed saying they suddenly found that they didn’t like the taste anymore and stopped drinking alcoholic beverages.
Not gonna say that’s the whole cause of course, but it may be a contributing factor.
I pretty much stopped drinking on Wegovy mostly because I always feel full and I have to choose between a cocktail or food.
I’m honestly so concerned by the amount of energy drinks zoomers drink, plus the vaping. They’re less into downers, but fuck me they love those stimulants.
The vaping is depressing because it feels like all the gains made by anti-smoking have been eroded with more people smoking than ever before.
I personally don’t mind vaping, since many smokers switched to vaping and people who vape don’t emit a passive aura of stench.
Thing is, the vaping is so much worse for heavy metals, so were going to have to dedicate a huge amount of resources treating people for that since it is actually so unchecked
I personally don’t care whether vaping is worse for the person doing it than smoking. The thing I do care about is that vaping affects other people much less than smoking does.
No it’s not. The articles on that study severely misrepresented the results. Everything was under OSHA levels, significantly lower than what’s in cigarettes, and a few were lower than atmospheric levels.
The formaldehyde study and the glycerin break down study had methodologies so far outside of regular usage that they were designed to produce harmful products.
The popcorn lung scare was full of shit too. Diacetyl and acetyl proponol were only used in tiny amounts in recipes that needed a buttery flavor. Despite the levels being orders of magnitude higher in cigarettes, and the only recorded cases being industrial workers and a guy with a microwave popcorn huffing fetish, the industry dropped it.
The EVALI bullshit was black market THC carts cut with Vitamin E acetate.
The amount of false propaganda against vaping is staggering. It was cutting into tobacco tax revenue, so the FDA killed the industry that was focused on harm reduction.
Oh awesome, do you have any sources on that then?
At least with Vaping there’s no overhand smoke iirc, so while it’s still bad for you it doesn’t damage the people around you too thus it’s more of a personal choice
Ngl I have a problem with energy drinks… been trying to ditch them in favour of coffee
I was a heavy coffee drinker until they found my heart defect.
Now I have no caffeine, doctor’s orders, for 22 ish years now.
Sometimes I’ll sneak a sip of coffee if I have a migraine, it helps. But God help me I won’t sleep that night.
You don’t realize how much of a tolerance to and a dependence on caffeine that you build up, until you’re off of it for awhile, and try some again.
It really has a powerful effect on you, even if you don’t realize it right now.
If I drank an energy drink right now, after being dry for so long, my heart would definitely race and I doubt I’d sleep for two days.
I don’t miss caffeine though, honestly. I don’t wake up tired anymore, I just, wake up. And drink some water 🤷♂️ then go to work, feeling fine. Not amazingly energized, but not dragging either… Just… Normal 🤷♂️
Caffeine is a drug like anything else. If you can get off the stuff for awhile, say 6 months? I bet you’ll be amazed at how you feel, and you won’t go back.
I have ADHD and dont take the meds and im pretty sure without caffeine id just fall apart.
Is there a reason you don’t take the meds, like cost or something?
If not, you should definitely prioritize the meds, you’re going to build up a resilience to Caffeine faster and it’s like, so bad for you. I get it though, weed and caffeine are super common and effective forms of self-medication fot ADHD.
I can only get generic concerta on the NHS which does NOT work at all, sideeffects are not worth the impact it has. If I want to be in a medicated state I generally just obtain high quality speed paste and dose it at a theraputic level.
Jesus christ, and I thought Canadian healthcare was a shit show. From what I understand, lisdexafetamine (Vyanse) should also be covered by the NHS, though I’m not sure about what the requirements for generic brands are there. It’s much, much easier on you than something like concerts.
Also ADHD here, but perhaps a different blend? At any rate, I function 🤷♂️
The difference is incredible! I am not and never was a caffeine addict. I just drink from time to time and I enjoy the taste. But that “from time to time” is like once in 3 months. Or at least when I need energy and my sleep was short that night.
The difference is insane! It keeps me glued and moving the whole day. I come off work and I do things non stop. I can’t shut up. It doesn’t let me fall asleep quicker than usual (10-15min). It feels that it is a some sort of an enhancement drug.
I hope I will never require it most of the days so I won’t build tolerance. And I do not want to get addicted to energy drinks. If coffee is a mild enhancement drug, energy drink is a straight up poison mixed with cocaine.
Older Millennial here, they are right, too bad people my age didn’t get the memo. Never understood, even back in school, why getting plastered is celebrated.
Because… well… points around in multiple directions
That’s not going to make anything better though. You’ll just go down a path of addiction and self-destruction. Plus it’s expensive.
Not sure if boomers includes late forties but I quit drinking 4 or 5 years ago & went vegetarian.
Best decisions of my life after marriage & having kids.
Late forties is late gen x, a firm decade between you and the boomwrs
Damn, even gen X forgot about gen X
I’m middle aged, I’ve never smoked, at the most in my younger years I’d drink one glass of wine or cider or something like that a week. I don’t anymore, I have maybe 3 drinks a year tops now. It’s amazing to me how my parents’ generation is still alive because they smoked like fiends and drank buckets of rum and cokes on the weekends, and I’d say that they weren’t big drinkers compared to others.
Millennials when gen y avoid social media
…Millennials are gen Y?
It tastes like ass as well. I haven’t drank in like 8 years by now, but I think I would’ve taken longer to quit it if it tasted like a full fat Coke, lol.
I do think a lot of people force themselves to like it, when it’s “cool” as a young adult. I’d bet most people would pick a different drink if there was no buzz around alcohol.
“Cool” or “tough”, I saw it both in my teenage and army days. People are very silly. Being a good family man, responsible father and loving husband, that’s cool; controlling one’s anger, being self-sacrificial, needing little and giving a lot, that’s tough. Oh well. 🤷♂️🙃
100%. I never could convince myself to like it and I tried like hell in my early 20s. Then I discovered hard cider, still not better than a soda but good enough to easily get fucked up with.
But then weed became legal and I’ve all but phased out drinking altogether. Besides, it’s too damn expensive
Tastes are funny. I think coke tastes like ass. I’d much rather have a good beer.
And I feel like when I first started drinking, 15, 16 years old, drinks with flavor were easier to consume. As drinking progressed, those were the drinks I avoided like the plague. I haven’t had a long island iced tea since I was 21 or 22.
And that’s not to say there aren’t well crafted cocktails that taste good, but none of them taste like a coke.
I’m not against a pornstar martini every once in a while, but only if it’s made well. I’ve had instant cocktails and those are not even worth the tin they’re served in.
Yeah, same. Was struck by it at a korean restaurant that had the equivalent of a wine pairing, and their selection was just … something for children, only children can’t drink. As in, I like straight soju and makgeolli, but I’d rather get some craft makgeolli without sweeteners than something flavoured like chemical blueberry replica.
Commercially produced makgeolli will always use artificial sweeteners because there’s still active fermenting taking place and any real sweeteners will be turned into alcohol, which will effect the taste and alcohol content. With craft makgeolli, you add a sweetener, like juice or honey or sugar, shortly before serving.
Mmm, bottle fermentation.
But I think the main point is more along the lines of expectations for alcohol and general tastes: I find overly sweet stuff a turn-off, and generally need to temper sweet stuff with something sour or bitter.
Also, mixing juice and alcohol can very often result in what a lot of us drank as teenagers, and may have rather negative associations to. Like I don’t have problems with gimlets and micheladas or radlers, but I think I prefer them all on the boozier side, and stuff like rum & coke is just … not for me.
So if I go to a restaurant and get what I interpret as more or less teenager drinking swill full of artificial flavouring, Black Tower and general goon sack swill, I’m going to have a bad time, and be left wondering if this stuff is actually representative of what they consider alcohol for adults, or if the people at the restaurant are being weird.
Yeah, I get it. There was a bit of a fruit flavored soju fad about ten years ago in Korea, but that has pretty much completely died off. You’d be hard pressed to find soju cocktails or makgeolli dolled up in Korea outside of a few regional places that want to be known for chestnut or corn or sweet potato makgeolli.
Yeah, the smell of RedBull vodka makes me nearly puke now, after young me actually puked too often from it
I also don’t like sweet alcohol stuff.
My little brother on the other side doesn’t like beer and tends more to those sugar bombs.
Can’t understand it… The sugar makes the hangover much worseI drank Malibu once, when I was 12. I got very drunk (as 12 year olds do), and haven’t been able to smell it with nausea since
I haven’t drank in ~2.5 years and got served an alcoholic beer on accident.
Even the first sip tasted awful. Super sweet but at the same time like disinfectant.
And I used to love this brand of beer. Crazy how much of an acquired taste alcohol is.Sweet beer?
What brand was it. Beer is bitter, not sweet unless you add some fruit or it’s mixed beer with juice something else.
Beer should be barley (wheat/rice/etc), hops, water, and yeast. That’s it.
It was Hacker-Pschorr Weißbier, so a Bavarian would say as beer as it can get
You sure that wasn’t an alcohol free beer? Unless it’s de-alcholized beer, a non-alcoholic beer is stopped being brewed before a lot of the sugar from the yeast is turned into alchohol.
So they tend to be sweeter unless they add some additives, and they taste like stale alcohol as well, that could have been the disinfectant tinge. As they are still 0.5% alcohol typically.
100% sure because I’ve ordered the nonalcoholic Version and they apologised about a hundred times when I pointed out it was an alcoholic beer.
I drink a lot of non alcoholic beers and tried a lot of different brands, so I’m used to the way they taste. Also a lot of them have very low amounts of sugar in them (I.e. Jever fun, Fürstenberg 0%, etc).
if it tasted like a full fat Coke, lol.
Sugar is more addictive than alcohol.
And pound for pound almost just as bad for your liver
This sounded like bullshit but I’m open to the idea enough to do a few minutes of digging. The study that the first few search results reference tested rats and found that, according to my understanding at least, intermittent sugar intake can be addictive in a similar manner to opiates, but to a smaller degree than actual opiates. There was no comparison to alcohol.
There was this brief article where the chair of nutrition at Harvard said sugar can mimic some traits of addictiveness but specifically stated it can’t be classified the same as alcohol or nicotine. No actual study done, just a guy who presumably knows what he’s talking about.
So claiming sugar is more addictive than alcohol still sounds like bullshit to me. Habit forming? Yes. Withdrawal symptoms after high regular consumption? Yes. Over consumed (at least in the US)? Hell yes. But more addictive than alcohol? Do you have an actual source to support such a claim?
And so is coffee from what my mom tells me but nobody cheated, got rowdy or beat his wife because of too many churros, lol.
I can’t stand beer or wine (or Coke), but I genuinely enjoy the harsh taste of hard liquor. I stopped drinking over a year ago and have no desire to ever drink alcohol again, but sometimes the craving for the taste hits me so hard and I almost give in until I remember how alcohol makes me feel, both while I’m drinking it and the day after. I really wish I could sit and enjoy a few drinks for the taste without there being any alcohol in it.
I’m gonna say it, alcohol and smoking is shit. Especially those who smoke you even smell like shit
Laughs in British.
By the time Americans are trying alcohol for the first time, some of us are straight up alcoholics and have been trying to quit for several years.
Yeah, we’re going to let you have this one
IDK, with the amount of drunk driving in the US I’ve always wondered if we shouldn’t flip the two so that people have experience with how alcohol affects them before they have the ability to get behind the wheel of a car.
Some on the continent have been legally drinking since 16, and illegally since earlier than that
Majority is teens; but frankly, there are instances where children drink. At least hard liquor isnt as popular as relatively-low alcohol drinks.
Denmark that has been topping the drinking charts among 15-16 year olds almost every year this century:
Its so expensive how can this be?
We got a solution for that: Drink until you forget how much you paid.
Weird flex.
You can recover by telling us we’re dumb for building houses out of wood, or calling us fat.
Ooh! Ooh! Make a school shooter joke! Those are always a hit!
Americans don’t even build houses out of wood anymore, we build houses out of plastic and sawdust.
Is our wooden house situation old-hat now? It seems like the problem is just going to get worse as time goes on
Nah dude we should be building heavy stone houses despite one of our coasts being highly prone to earthquakes, the entire middle of our country prone to tornadoes and only a small section of the east coast being suitable for heavy stone houses! We should be willing to be crushed to death in an earthquake or take a fat rock to the head during a tornado so they can’t talk about this anymore!!
Woah wooden houses are totally resistant to all those situations and even more! I’m certain that’s why we build so many and leave them empty across every biome in the country.
!!! Fuck I forgot to add all these. Just sprinkle em in as you please
Well yes, there are several other policies and mannerisms of yours besides the 21-year-old MLDA that are quite frankly inscrutable to me.
I see a lot of ridiculouness tv show every day. The american culture like opening cans with their teeth on the side of the can and throwing themselves onto tables and from roofs is completely insane. Nobody even bats an eye.
It’s not hard to get liquor as a teen in the US and it’s underground. I was drinking too vomiting just about every weekend throughout highschool. I doubt that’s going on as much with a 5% lager in a pub, and I don’t see clubs tolerating it that much.
I’d be interested in seeing numbers on which produce more alcoholics. Coming from the latter, the former would have been much safer and better overall🤷♂️.
Sadly, this doesn’t apply to Wisconsin.
Boomers love vaping, once it is a product to sell them
I stopped drinking against my will, and every day I open the news I wish to god I could pick it back up.
Maybe if they stuck with tradition they’d know how to fucking spell
Millennial here, been drinking heavy for 20+ years. Young generation missing out. But at the same time I respect the decision
We found better poisons.
Tide pods?
Too awful tasting.
Well… you would know
