• Bahnd Rollard@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Ive got 4 definitions… Making it extra confusing.

    1. The one from the post.
    2. The new zoomer definition.
    3. A member of the EvE Online alliance “Goonswarm Federation” (an army of 10k angry nerds).
    4. A member of the security team at DefCon.

    Both 3 and 4 predate 2 by well more than 15 years, this is one of those zoomer additions to the common lexicon I would prefer reverted to the old definitions.

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      23 days ago

      the goonswarm is just the something awful faction of eve. they’ve been called goons since forever. they had one in wow as well, “ye olde goon squad”, or yogs. some of those members started a podcast and that just snowballed.

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        23 days ago

        Eh… No

        One is a notorious guild in an online video game that has been around in some form or another since the early 2ks. The latter is a security conference thats been held since the early 90s. (Although it used to be a lot rougher than it currently is, its a lot more corporate and safer now)

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    23 days ago

    As a Gen-Xer I can attest that up until two weeks ago I was very much so misunderstanding “gooning”. Once again, porn saves the day.

  • Ech@lemmy.ca
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    23 days ago

    And grok used to mean “understand”, not “nazi shithead propaganda machine”.

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      23 days ago

      I’m going to keep using it as a verb. If people are dumb enough to assume I’m dumb enough to use xai, that’s not my problem.

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      Yeah no sorry the origin was always gross. Stranger in a strange land is just heinlein’s weird fetish porn where he justifies old men sleeping with young girls (sound familiar?)

      And grok was always a term used by weirdos who thought the book was deep for some crazy reason and wanted to sound like they were part of this insider intellectuals club

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        What? He gets freaky in some other books, but Stranger is pretty clean for a free love manifesto. Every character I can think of was a full grown adult, I don’t think there’s a single scene even euphemistically depicting an old man sleeping with a young girl. All the sex even referred to was between people of relatively close age.

        Grok just means to understand/drink fully. You drink water, and it becomes a part of your body. You understand an idea, and it becomes part of your mind. It’s an efficient word to communicate “understanding something fully enough to functionally incorporate it into your worldview”. It’s not that intellectual.

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        23 days ago

        Please don’t interpret this as a defense of Robert Heinlein’s books as it has been decades since I read them and it sounds like you might be more familiar with them. But weren’t all the women in Stranger in a Strange Land older than Michael Valentine Smith?

        Are you getting confusing the character with Lazarus Long from Time Enough for Love, et al? I think he was thousands of years older than some of his (adult) love interests…

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        That’s a rather puritan and skewed perspective. Afaik Stranger in a Strange Land is a very weird book but very tame and not pornographic at all. And it was an important artwork that explored the themes of the 60s sexual revolution. A time where people knew very little about sex and gender and questioned everything.

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        23 days ago

        I dunno. I only ever used it as shorthand for being able to understand the basics of something. Also, words can change for the better. So in this case it went gross -> fine -> gross.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    23 days ago

    ‘Goon’ still means Henchman.

    Don’t let the vapid famewhore influencerati dictate language changes. Laugh at their obvious inability and keep being you.

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    23 days ago

    You think you’re annoyed?

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    The Goon by Eric Powell.

    In a town full of zombies, degenerates, mad scientists, and assorted weirdos a two fisted thug runs things his way.

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        23 days ago

        I’m pretty sure that gooning doesn’t refer to edging but simply to masturbaiting to completion, often multiple times a day

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            Actually that guy is more wrong than you were. “Gooning” is the act of edging multiple times in a single long session such that your body is pumped so full of sexual endorphins that you essentially become an accessory to your groin. No longer a person with a penis, but simply a rock hard cock with a human attached to it who’s sole purpose is providing sexual gratification. This is the “goon state”. The term “gooning” does derive from its previous usage as the gooner becomes a simpleton, brainless idiot, etc.

            Gooners typically also use multiple screens in a dark room with their porn of choice on each screen to maximize sexual stimulation, essentially entering into their own pocket dimension where there exists only porn and their throbbing shaft.

            Source: Me. I once hit the ceiling with my load after a 5 hour goon session.

    • WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      It means all the above shit in this thread including the one that started it. Words can have more than one meaning. I think the argument is what the connotation has become.