There is no date of arrival for the motorola yet. I only read beginning of 2027. That could also be delayed. And if it is a phone with underwhelming specs, I wouldn’t want to buy it either. But buying a pixel now means not buying a motorola soon.
It’s nice to have some other choices but, given all the current legislation suddenly appearing about requiring vendors to identify users, I think there’s a good chance Motorola is rethinking this decision.
I’m hopeful. I want my next phone without Google or Samsung - and I really hope Motorola will deliver their promises.
And also that the upcoming phone have to have an extendable storage for me to buy. It is my main principle - unfortunately I had to give up on headphone jacks…Same situation (current phone is dying) so I’ll be watching this thread as well, sorry I cant contribute with an answer
I’m thinking of waiting for the actual specs of the Motorolla to make a decision, I don’t want to give Google my money so a refubished Pixel is my other option
I am precisely doing that since my xiaomi drowned last month. Got myself a spare/ secondary phone that happens to be my primary at the moment. It has another feature I wanted to try: an eink screen, black and white, easy on my eyes (model: bigme hibreak).
I am happy with my decision :) it’s like a digital detox in its own way… Most of my app consumption was
text > sound >> video, and the latter doesn’t look bad at all anyway, so… here we are. Only some content received via Whatsapp but I use the web version at my pc most of the day (e.g. videos of my family or photos from friends)If you want GrapheneOS without funding Google, why not get a secondhand Pixel?
This is what I did but you do need to be careful with it - in the US ar least you can’t unlock the bootloader on a Verizon-issued pixel which are very common. Always ask the seller where they got it from, since most wouldn’t be technical enough to check the bootloader for you
This is very important and deserves its own post. Resellers typically either don’t specify or don’t know if the bootloader is unlockable on a Pixel so the buyer has to find out for themselves. Sadly “Unlocked” in an eBay post often refers to the carrier rather than the bootloader. Thanks for mentioning this!
Yep I made this mistake but luckily was able to return the phone via backmarket. Was more educated the second buy and am happy with the phone.
you’re still supporting google if you still do this via resale value.
and that’s why i’m waiting for motorola
How many GOS users are out there, you think? They have zero impact on the resale value.
They’re the small potatoes along for the ride – a majority will stick w android and I don’t want to add to the clusterfuck anymore than I already have.
How does resale value “support Google”?
The same way it helps any brand that people think it’s premium – via reale prices that support the artificial belief that the perceived value is higher than its intrinsic one.
I’ve had to accept that I’m too careless to have expensive phones, and I don’t need new hardware, so I’m staying at the oldest supported pixel and upgrading in that area second-hand. Currently I have a pixel 6a (with a cracked screen…), but might move to a pixel 8 next year. Somehow I wish I could support Fairphone, but I keep reading things like people having issues with it and I want my phone to “just work”, and graphene has been great for that.
Google phone sales don’t even register as change
I am waiting for now, for me, since I already have a phone. That said, if it’s the difference between zero connection and the status quo, I would just buy something now. The status quo is better than nothing at all. But once Graphene’d Motorola comes out, it’s a no brainer purchace for anyone who wants to own their device in deed and not just on paper.
i bought a used 8 pro
I used to really like Motorola but their lineup has really gone down the drain in the last few years. The last Motorola I had was a Moto G100 (2021) and I was reasonably happy with it until the battery started expanding in early 2025. When I tried looking for a new Motorola at that time I didn’t find anything that didn’t have completely disappointing specs, so I went with a Pixel 9 pro specifically for GrapheneOS. It was a really good upgrade. The camera is much better, the battery lasts longer and has fast-charging and wireless charging. I hope I won’t be needing a new phone for the next few years but if I needed one right now I probably wouldn’t go with a Motorola, even if I could keep using GOS on it.
need a phone ? buy a used Pixel ?
Depends heavily on the country. Most used phones in Sweden are sold at MSRP, sometimes even more expensive. Recycling and second hand is very popular, even clothes are more expensive than if you were buying new in stores. It’s just not worth it economically, it’s only worth it if you’re doing it for ideological or moral reasons (e.g. sustainability).
Only on motorola flagships afaik, so no way in hell.
I like the idea of graphene, but I would never buy a google phone to degoogle, because logic. I already own a low end motorola, I’m not a fan of the brand.
If you have an ok phone now, there’s no need for a new one unless it’s interesting. I’d wait to see about the moto graphene phone. I’m quite happy with low end moto hardware (G series) but they will probably screw up and make the graphene phone a flagship, as someone mentioned.
Maybe, but probaby not gonna budget friendly, because of GOS hardware requirements for security and we all know how overprice a Pixel phone is
I’m waiting. Not only because I’d rather use Motorola over Google, but also because I want to wait and see how the EU ID apps will work on GrapheneOS. If it won’t work on GOS (which seems quite likely as of today), then I will ditch the phone as a social medium entirely and only use it for ID, banking apps and other proprietary garbage society forces upon me. I’d relegate my social life to a portable laptop or something, on which I have a far greater control of the software.
Refuse it, ask for a chip card-based solution, which is very feasible. EU will require banks not to ask for smartphones with the PSR.
I feel you, but don’t get your hopes up about other hardware either. Hardware based attestation could be coming to any and all devices, making it impossible to access any online services that will require a certain hardware.
I swear to God, we’ll all end up using LoRa devices…
Unless I needed a replacement now, I would wait. It’ll be the first phone designed with GOS in mind but also Motorola’s recent track record isn’t amazing. I’m also hoping they have multiple phones supporting GOS. If initial reviews aren’t great, then refurbished Pixel it is.
It all depends on how badly you need a new phone. My current Pixel is perfectly serviceable, so I have no problem waiting to see what Motorola eventually has to offer. My current phone will almost certainly suffice until then.
With that said, if my current phone was actually broken or whatever, I would probably buy a cheap/old/used Pixel to tide me over until the Motorola reveal.
