They seem to have deleted the post
This company would be liable under defamation laws which are very strict in India.
The candidate (if savy) can claim they left due to extreme harassment and bullying and then the company would be pushed into a defensive position having to prove that they didn’t in the court of the people.
Imagine how toxic their internal comms are if this is what they publicly post
Accepting an offer, going through onboarding and then not showing up is very unprofessional. The least you can do is give notice. While it’s certainly not OK to publicize this and probably illegal in many jurisdictions, the candidate is clearly also in the wrong here.
It is unprofessional, but the only workplaces that I’ve seen that happen at have been ones where the pay, benefits and quality of work are so low that they can’t expect people to want to work there when they have better options
I accepted an offer, went through a day of training and a half day of work, then left at lunch. Had to use the office phone because this was before I had a cell phone. Turns out I couldn’t physically handle working in a tire factory. I was itchy and sweaty and miserable.
Figured out years later I was allergic to latex.
What I’m saying is, maybe the company wasn’t a good fit and the candidate didn’t figure it out until after onboarding.
I personally think capitalism can get bent. A few years ago I would have agreed with you, but companies don’t give a shit about you. Why should you be required to give more than they do?
This dude ghosted a new job after completing all the steps to onboard. The least he could do is write them an email when he knew he was going to be working somewhere else instead.
Why should you be required to give more than they do?
When a company lays people off or fires someone, I’m pretty sure they tell them about it
I just had a “restructure” at my work. A good worker with 5 years in the company was told she didn’t have a job same day. So, yes, the people are told about it, but not given any time to prepare. She didn’t get to finish her shift.
When a company lays people off or fires someone, I’m pretty sure they tell them about it
Yeah, sometimes the day of. Don’t stick up for capitalsts, they would never do the same for you.
Plenty of employees also quit without giving more than a day notice. In at-will employment, it goes both ways
Yeah, what’s your point? Workers are the ones creating value for the company. When you don’t hold any cards, and get paid minimum wage, giving 2 weeks notice is a dangerous game.
Last time I didn’t give notice was a job that I was pretty sure would try to not pay me, or ask me to leave before the two weeks are up. I have no sympathy for employers.
As someone who has hired many people in healthcare, very frankly, anyone who ghosts like this can fucking go to hell. This would extend a position being open sometimes by another month or two and only causes stress for everyone. It’s unprofessional as fuck
While firing someone via text message on Friday is absolutely OK.
HR guys are basically the company’s lackeys.
I’m not in HR, I’m a clinical manager. I’ve literally never fired someone via text message. I can count the number of people I’ve fired over 15 years on one hand, and they all saw it coming months in advance and had many opportunities to improve. All employers are not equal
All companies aren’t equal either
Did you know wage theft is the single greatest body of theft in the US? Larger than all other categories of theft combined. Like they are stealing so much of workers money its bananas. Wild to think about but a good table setter for the topic from my experience imo.
Heaven forbid you have the gall to entertain multiple offers. Just like they have entertained multiple applicants. Sometimes you get staggered offers and one ends up being a better offer later in the game. Are you required to go explain yourself to the lesser offering? Nah. If it’s earned sure. Otherwise fuck that.
“Sorry I got something better.” Sounds easy but these guys seem like vindictive shits that I’d argue are untrustworthy narrators. Absolutely possible the hiree sent a note but backing out at the last minute that was seen as an absolute betrayal to their seemingly mid offer… This reeks of their thinking they had a big one on the hook for cheap and they are mad it got away.
“Nothing personal it’s just business.” Is the typical unlubed response to the worker. I fail to see how these thin skinned twats deserve any better, especially with their response here. I’d argue this business deserves the treatment hiring such liabilities in their HR department are clearly bringing them by not dealing with this behavior. Job security for the lawyers I guess.
I understand your point, we should all generally try to be good and respectful to each other. My point is with the imbalance of power in the hiring orocess, propensity for fake interviews we know businesses use, AI use in the interview process, and general lack of respect for the candidates in the pool are all reasons i think you are holding yourself to a standard they refuse. All of these are just the tip of the iceberg of shit in getting a job.
HR and hiring reps do not generally deserve the courtesy unless it’s been earned by being exemplary in demonstrated respect and such diring the process. Because for every instance of this, they’ve likely abused many more people doing similar things to them without blinking an eye. This is just manipulation.
Sure. But if you apply to a 50 people outfit, there are probably no billionaires involved. Just write the email instead of fucking over some poor IT person who just created all your accounts and now has to clean everything up again, or whoever did two hours of overtime to wrap up the actual task they didn’t get around to finish due to being informed about a super critical omboarding call 30 minutes before it was supposed to happen. Employees of capitalist companies are still mostly just people suffering the same as we all.
If you applied to the likes of X, or OpenAI etc., feel free to ghost those fuckers as much as you like though. Whoever still works there probably deserves no courtesy. Should also probably do some deep reflection on the application then.
I’ll agree that companies deserve notice when they decide to start giving two weeks notice before firing someone.
Since that will never happen, this sort of “it’s unprofessional” attitude just makes people look like corpo dicksleeves
I can understand being frustrated here but how do you not realize how much worse you are making it by making this post?
This is going to happen every once in a while, every recruiter, hiring manager, and HR professional should know that. If it happens a lot it’s because your interview process sucks and you are everyone’s last resort if better jobs don’t pan out. This happens much less frequently to employers people actually want to work for.
It also happens very often, but in reverse. Company promising things and suddenly just not even calling back/msg back.
I bet those bastards also have several people lining up for their jobs !! /s lmao
thats ghosting.
HR people suffer from mini God Complexes.
A demigod complex, perhaps?
All of upper management as well.
I guess they should try to be a better company to work for then. Nobody would bat an eye if a company did it to a new hire, so fuck em. It’s one job, chill out.
That company’s website is awe inspiringly bad. A static page does not need a loading bar and the cookie consent banner shouldn’t break the whole page on mobile.
I had a friend accept a job and when he showed up the first day they told him that they decided to go with someone else and he doesn’t actually have a job and they must have forgotten to tell him. Fucking brutal.
That deserves shaming
Nike.
I live near them and only hear bad things
In the US, this isn’t illegal, but it is something you can sue an employer over. At-will employment does not apply here.
It’s a claim of promissory estopel.
Does it work both ways? If the applicant says they accept the job and then later says they went with a different company, like the applicant in OP’s post?
You can only make a claim like that if you can prove real damages. The idea is that someone made you a promise, and based on that promise you took steps that cost you real money. Maybe you quit your job. Or you paid to move cities and all the related costs.
So the employer would have to prove they suffered real damages as a direct results of the employee backing out. And that would be difficult in most cases. After all, in most cases the result of an employee backing out will just be the status quo the company was already operating under. And they would have to show why they couldn’t just go with another candidate.
It would be a lot harder for an employer to make this kind of claim than an employee. Sure you can imagine some edge cases where a company spent a lot of money in expectation of a new employee. But usually a new employee backing out just means the company keeps operating in the exact same state it was previously.
I’m assuming if you are an applicant and you took one offer and rejected another, and then the company you accepted then rescinded their offer, and it’s too late to accept the other offer, that alone wouldn’t be enough in damages to sue right?
Likewise if a company gave an offer to an applicant, the applicant accepted so the company rejected all other applicants, and then the applicant who accepted rescinded their acceptance, company doesn’t get to claim damages?
Also, companies know better. If they sue someone who did not start yet, nobody who has other options will ever apply, because why risk it.
Illegal in EU
Illegal in based land
If by which you mean “almost everyone except America and Canada”, yes
According to another comment and the article they cite, it might actually be grounds for a suit in the US too, if the would-be-employee incurs damage for actions taken in reasonable reliance on getting that promised job. I imagine if they quit their old job or rejected other offers because they expected the would-be-employer to honour its promise, that might count as damages.
Whether it’s worth suing is a different question, of course.
Wild that it’s from the pocket of the employee though, here it is usually a government department that handle most legal cases Vs corporate, with that private individuals only have to do it themselves in exceptional cases.
Wild that it’s from the pocket of the employee though
It’s a repeating pattern, really, like the legal equivalent to The Sam Vimes theory of socioeconomic unfairness: If you can’t front the price of asserting your rights, you’ll get neither your rights not the money to assert them in the future.
I worked in an office where a guy came in and on his first day he was taking phone calls from recruiters and discussing other job opportunities. He was shown the door on the same day.
The phone was a shared phone on a desk in an open plan office. His boss sat on the same desk.
lol, either they have huge balls or they’re an idiot
I’m surprised this is even news. This is how the India hiring market works. They have 3-month notice periods. And surely during that time they’re juggling multiple interviews and job offers.
If that’s a problem, hire somewhere else. Or be the best offer.
Lmao three months?!? Let me guess, there’s nothing stopping the company from telling me to pack up your shit when you give them that notice leaving the possibility of 3 months of unemployment?
Oh, no, they’re not as fucked up as the US. The contract will state number of days and BOTH parties have to adhere to it.
Ah well thats good
Wow! Looking at job offers from multiple companies, just like companies look at multiple job-seekers, and then changing his mind at the last moment. How would a mere person have the gall to overstep his station in life like this? Workers were meant to beg for jobs, companies were meant to dole them out. Are there no standards anymore?!!
Accenture is a horrible choice but the candidate is better off than if they had stayed with these psychos.
Better than Deloitte or PwC from a culture perspective. But they’ve been pushing so much offshore in recent years that their reputation is taking a hit (granted, the candidate in this scenario IS that overseas resource). At least it wasn’t KPMG
Bruh probation period cuts both ways. Employer was being measured against alternatives and came up short 🤷🏻♂️
Well, that’s a lawsuit.
Omfg they even @ him at his alt profile! Chuds!
We received information suggesting he may be handling multiple offers simultaneously
Yes that’s what can happen when you’re looking for a job. Get over yourself.
Like every single other company out there, I’m sure they also handled multiple applicants.
Good way to perma yourself from the reputable hiring marketplace.
Literally had a company tell me I got the job and to be on the look out for the official offer in my email just to get the rug pulled from under me. That’s just tough shit. The company in the post should’ve given a better offer
I had the official offer letter once. I asked for more money, which is something you should always do, and they rescinded the offer.
A year later I had another offer letter from a different group in the same company. I asked for more money. They stood firm and kept the offer on the table, and I took a different, slightly better offer from a different company.
