All a distraction from the Epstein files
medical science has shown that long covid fucks with the brain. now, is this an “easy out” for stupid people, or do we really have to consider it
We all knew infection was the best protection.
Statistically speaking, yes, comparing the group who had had COVID vs the group that was vaccinated, in subsequent COVID infections those who had had the disease were less likely to die.
Because those in the infection group who were most likely to die of COVID had already died. Turns out surviving COVID is a good indicator of your ability to survive COVID.
The statistics on unvaccinated first-time COVID vs vaccinated first-time COVID tells a very different story.
This kind of bullshit frustrates me so much.
While, yes, there’s survivorship bias in such statements I think the stats also showed the chances of contracting a second infection was also lower than a vaccinated person contracting a first infection.
That’s not really surprising. A vaccinated person’s immune system has just seen a single protein, whereas a COVID survivor’s immune system has been trained on the whole virus. I would expect it to perform better.
…but the risk of infection Vs vaccination can’t be ignored.
“Best” if you exclusively optimize for immunity in living patients.
Long covid is a thing. And it sucks. I’d rather be vaccinated than end up with long covid.
I’d also rather be vaccinated than dead from my first round of COVID. But yes, I know some people suffering from long COVID and it absolutely sucks.
No reason works on these people.
A family member boasts that covid wasn’t that bad, because he survived it, he doesn’t realize that if he didn’t, he wouldn’t be here making this argument. When bringing up, that his brother in law died he makes an argument that he just had cold and hospital killed him on purpose (conveniently forgetting the fact that you just don’t go to a hospital with a cold)
Something something B17s.
Rand Paul is compromised.
Yeah, infection is the best protection… If you survive your first infection, which an awful lot of people didn’t, and many more still developed life long disability as a result.
So I think I speak for most when I say I’d rather take the vaccine, so my chances of dying/being hospitalised were way lower if I ever got the real thing.
Having gotten the vaccine, and later gotten Covid… that it would have been way worse is scary.
Well, no, conservatives operate on ‘rules for thee not for me’. There’s no reason to assume Paul was vaccinated based on events he attended requiring vaccination.
I don’t doubt that he was, but you can’t draw a line between the things listed in the post.
You mean he probably lied regarding his vax status, therefore forging documents.
We tried immunity via infection. Over a million people died.
But the survivors did great! You Demoncrats keep hiding the FACTS and SCIENCE 😮💨
Did Rand Paul trying checking under the couch cushions? Everyone I cant find something, it’s under the couch cushion.
If he ever invited Vance to the house, I would just never look under couch cushions ever again if I was him.
The weak get culled, and what remains is stronger.
Yeah, remember that which doesn’t kill you, maims you.
And that which doesn’t maim you gives you chronic pain.
Have you thought about killing yourself?
I really think it’s a good idea
Did I really have to put a /s on that?
Nah. It works both ways 🫣
Yeah, sadly people says that bullshit unironically
Yes.
First time?
Back in my day, we didn’t have /s, and we liked it.
Problem being is the world is full of idiots that would sincerely believe in that statement. And would take your sarcastic take as validation.
It’s depressing, but even obviously stupid statements aren’t that obviously stupid to some…
What remains is stronger than what was culled, but are sicker than before the culling started.
I think the problem was rooted in public trust. Many people were required to vaccine due to their work or where they lived and vaccine manufacturers were largely sheltered from product lawsuits. Putting these two things together has a corrosive effect on public trust.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-sue-if-im-harmed-by-the-coronavirus-vaccine.html
2 policies were anti science.
Requiring vaccines for people who had already recovered.
Removing (particularly mask) requirements for people who had been vaccinated.
What injuries? Who has been denied a case here? The standard requiring documented negligence seems completely reasonable, these are highly studied and highly documented items.
If you ride an elevator and you get a headache, you can’t just sue the elevator manufacturer. That elevator was inspected at every step and was known to work, there is a very high bar for you to prove that the elevator caused the headache. Bringing lawyers in is a waste of everyone’s time and money. Vaccines, even the coronavirus vaccines, are 100x as safe as those elevators.
Americans are over-litigious and uneducated about medicine.
Didn’t the earlier AstraZeneca vaccine eventually get pulled due to possible links to Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis? Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. A lot of people are going to be upset at having a mandate when recourse to justice if the vaccine goes wrong is pulled before the effects are fully studied.
Yes it did. But that one was also a traditional vaccine, not an mRNA one that these idiots screamed conspiracy about.
They used that to throw doubt on all vaccines in general.
It’s not so much that Americans are uneducated… it’s more that they’ve developed a resistance to being educated…one could perhaps say they’re vaccinated against knowledge.
trump politicized the hell out of it, thats where its coming from.
Unless he faked the creds.
Or, more likely, he submitted false results and went un-vaccinated
I don’t think the “science” Rand Paul follows is really science .
Rand Paul seems sensible on other issues. Why is he so stubborn on covid?
He’s a fucking idiot, and so are you
In my estimation, he has reasonable views about 25% of the time, but the other 75% is batshit crazy. There is no middle ground.
Pretty standard for a Libertarian, in my experience.
His dad seemed way more decent and sensible during his attempt at a presidential run. Rand has always been kind of a sandy little butthole.
The clownest shit and from a new user. Nice try.
Infection is the best protection? Alright then Rand, please get infected with HIV so that you may be protected from it in the future. Better yet, expose yourself to Marburg virus so you’ll never have to use a vaccine ever again. Doesn’t sound so smart now does it?
Hey, it’s still technically correct. Also: Shhh, don’t let the right-wing politicians know.
If infection was the best protection…then why did 7 million people die? Was it the best protection for them? What about the other deaths caused indirectly? What is it like 20-30 million deaths? They know what they’re saying. Fucking evil fucks.
My favorite is that these chucklefucks treat COVID like it was all Dr Fauci’s fault, as if every major country in the world didn’t also have vaccine strategies in place. The moment you explain the rest of the world doing it better than America, they stare at you like deer in headlights.
they still believe china created it.
They believe FAUCI created it in a secret lab in Wuhan China.
remember rand paul is the other SENATOR of kentucky, along with mitch.
So the good folk of Kentucky are represented by one dead senator and the other just brain-dead. I wonder what their internal monologue is convincing themselves that this is something that actually succeeds in “owning the libs”
