We have the scholar brain
I crave that feeling you get just after getting past the basic understanding of some new subject where it feels like you’re drinking from the firehose and you’re picking stuff up left and right.
It’s very difficult to achieve that feeling in a structured learning environment.
Chalk and talk is my hell.
There used to be a weatherman on TV in my state back before the internet. I’d tune into the news just to watch the weather. Of course, it’s not at the top of the news, because then nobody would listen to the rest of the broadcast. So I sit through that, then the weatherguy comes up and he starts talking about historical weather patterns and all the possibilities. Before I know it, he’s saying, “And that’s the weather. Back to you, Bob” and I’ve missed the actual forecast.
I had very similar experiences in math class. Going through things I understood, understood, understood, and then I tune out only to find out the teacher had taught something I didn’t understand and the entire experience of driving out to class had been wasted.
Teachers need students, student’s don’t need teachers.
Difference is that they move to a totally different subject every hour whennI’m still in the mood to learn about pan-slavic ideology
If you don’t fit then it must be your fault. Never the flawed systems problem. Integration and to some extent inclusion as the successor is about micromanaging the ND people (or otherwise non norm) so they don’t disturb the old way too much and rarely about changing concepts to actually open the situations up to all people.
Of course that takes more energy, time, willingness and most of all competence from the people in charge but in the long run it is worth it from a purely energy spent aspect. Not to speak of the non traumatic (or less) experiences ND have in education and public life in general.
Speaking as a Perviously early childhood education kindergarten teacher and a slightly of norm ND person.
Edit: it is common knowledge and practice in less formalized educational settings to use the enthusiasm and feed that interest in that moments and give it all the attention and “brain food” that you can spare. (There isn’t always time to do that and you of course have to realize that the moment has arrived) but if you do… It is so worth it. And sneaky sneaky , you can use the enthusiasm for one topic that goes into depth to introduce other topics that might be hard for the person. Like cars turning in to a conversation about why they don’t swim in water. Going further into why boats swim at all and you are now at physics.
That tactic does work ESPECIALLY well with ND people. It baffles me why people don’t use it all the time.
I did quite well in school :p. Except for when online classes hit during covid
Anywho, learning about new stuff is fun :3
Pretty early on, I got told to stop asking ‘why/how?’.
I’m not sure why they thought I was questioning them specifically and not out of curiosity.
Stopped me from Questioning things during school which I think just made me mask heavily unfortunately.
I was and had been undiagnosed my whole life until recently.
I love learning, Tinkering and Data.
“Ugh, just get in the same box as everyone else so I can push you through the system without resistance.” - abusers, not teachers.
I’m probably AuDHD. My opinion written before I knew:
The popular Prussian education system was originally designed to stub children to submissive, obedient underlings for the owning class and productive livestock for the economy.
Most schools have never questioned the default Prussian paradigm. Why would they have - it’s been a numbing success: stratifying homogenized people into a comfortable pyramid structure has stabilized society, made top-down control easier, wasted immense human potential, damaged humanity’s natural antifragility, impaired our capacity to solve unforeseen complex problems, risking the whole planet’s life. No pain living inside the pyramid, so no problem, no change.
Only if we cared for everyone’s future more than for our present comfort, should we design a different curriculum to create a better society; less like a breakable machine, more like a resilient organism, emerged from unstubbed people free to pursue what’s important to them.
A lot of schools and a lot of classes and a lot of educational systems as a whole aren’t designed or intended to teach anything other than obedience and cultural mythology, exactly the sort of stuff many autistic people instinctively hate and don’t believe in.
Good for us, frankly. Autodidacticism to the rescue. The problem for propaganda is that reality is always hiding underneath, no matter how much they try to paper their agenda-driven nonsense overtop of it, and once you know how to look for it and that you have to look for it, the whole system built on top of it gets called into question.
University AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 😭😭😭
I was simultaneously in gifted and learning disability classes in middle school. Apparently this was… fine?
I always thought every question on a test was a trick question, then questioned myself into believing they weren’t.
they were
Having a learning disability and having an advanced academic ability in one or more subjects are not mutually exclusive. There are lots of different types of learning disabilities, and most don’t automatically make someone less capable, it just may mean you process information differently
Or as my girlfriend likes to describe it, we have “spiky skills.” That is, very high in some areas, and very low in other areas.
I work with a six year old who’s still learning the most basic skills (like following one-step directions, such as “put your backpack in your cubby”), but he can spell out the full Latin names of various obscure fruits and vegetables from memory in order to find pictures of them online. Although he still has a long way to go with communication skills (he doesn’t speak and only recently acquired an AAC device), it’s clear he knows a lot more than would be apparent from the outside. Classic “spiky skills.”
I have described “spiky”, as imagine a sound board, with those up and down sliding switches. Most people have all of their switches close to the middle of the scale, just some a bit higher, and some a bit lower. But autistic people tend to have many of those switches turned either fully up, or fully down, and of course completely randomly as well.
Interestingly, this can also describe our sensory experiences/sensory filters. Some of us have brains that filter out speech, to the point that we don’t hear our own names being called. Others (like myself) have so little filter for speech sounds that we can’t even hear our own thoughts if someone else is talking in the same room. Or we may not experience pain from something that would cause an NT pain, but things that NTs experience as pleasurable might be painful to us. (For me, that’s tickling. I can’t stand being tickled. Or ASMR, it makes me irrationally angry.)
fuck my entire childhood to death. school was absolute hell.
i went to the Marines… and MCRD chewed me up and spit out a fully masked adult, who still quotes my general orders to this fucking day.
Thank you Corps. Semper Fi.
It’s costing me so much extra in oat lattes at my favourite cafes. Too much distraction at home and not enough caffeine at the library. I also feel miles safer leaving my stuff on a cafe table while I use the bathroom then leaving it in a library… I wish libraries were drug infested sex dens, then I would feel safer in them. Oh well…
Right now I’m watching this video about the lac operon in E.coli. It’s the switch in their DNA that let’s them digest lactose.
I get the feeling you’re in the wrong community, this is the autism one.
I read this as “I need caffeine to function and libraries don’t have it”. If libraries are associated with school (I can follow that association!) then it makes sense as a reply to this meme.
Look, I love libraries but I don’t think it’s fair to assume everyone has had good experiences in them. Theft was a big problem in my university library (as was voyeurism). It doesn’t mean this person hates libraries as a concept.
if that is how it’s meant to be read than my apologies, I just couldn’t understand it and assumed he was saying libraries should be drug infested sex dens, which they really shouldn’t be
I mean I’m just assuming and sharing how I read it. You and I are both speculating!
I wanted to reply that it’s okay to not understand every comment. Human experience is wider than any individual can comprehend and autistic people reflect that diversity as well. I personally find it easier if I assume good intentions and approach things with curiosity if I really do need to understand what someone meant.
I fail at that standard a lot lol but the overall result is good, I think.
I also know if someone tries to tell me I’m wrong about something they have no way of knowing or they misunderstand what I’m saying and argue against a point I’m not making I go feral real quick! Thanks persistent demand for autonomy! Having that experience also helps me be a bit more open to understanding the way I read something might not be what they mean.
lol please expand on your exclusionary comment
You are literally in the wrong thread. This isn’t the “maga hates libraries again” thread.
Oh, well I don’t hate libraries? I literally would be more comfortable in them if they were what those fox news hosts said they were.
That’s great! You should definitely go say that in the thread about it!
Nahh, you should probably just block me so more misunderstandings don’t ruffle your puritan values.
Yep you’re lost bud. No idea what you’re talking about.
As a person with ADHD I feel like the fun part of learning is curiosity and the joy of discovery. School isnt very good at delivering on that experience. It kinda just tries to cram as much into you as possible, which is a bummer cause otherwise learning is like one of the most fun things in the world
learning is like one of the most fun things in the world
Yeaah, i mean we are homo sapiens in the end
Yeah I guess its second best to being gay. Being gay is pretty great tho, so thats no discredit to learning 😌
Mmh i would place them on par, gay cuddles are great but learning is pretty dope too yk
Gay cuddles while watching a scientific documentary. Now that’s the dream.
I see your gay cuddling while watching a science documentary, and raise with a: gay cuddling while they info dump about their special interest at you 😌
Schools were never meant to be places to learn. They were primarily for the working class to learn obedience and deference for their betters, so that they might make better factory workers. They were only meant to provide just enough education for the working class to understand instructions that they were given.
According to CGP Grey, schools are basically daycare with an intense obsession with a game of Trivia
And if you’re not that good at it they get really hostile to you and start making threats of ruining your future. This is probably a distraction mechanism so you’re too busy trying to memorize some book to do anything useful
