cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/68752761 which was cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/64103917

I thought about saying “you know it’s a grift when they collect personal information and leak it.” According to their Bible, you don’t need an app to pray. They say church (or a covenant, I forget, it’s been 30+ years since I read the KJV) is when any two people come together to talk about Jesus (sorry!). So, where does an app fit in? And why does that app need your personally identifiable information (referred to as PII in industry). Wouldn’t an all-knowing God already have it?

But you don’t have to know it’s a grift… I feel like this is proof the Vatican (or whoever made this app on their behalf, and thus speak on their behalf… and the Pope allegedly speaks on God’s behalf) themselves know it’s a grift. Because why would they need your PII?

I know, fools and their money are soon parted… just saw this on /all and figured the Fediverse’s top Atheism comm should have it.

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    19 days ago

    they APPEAR to be bleeding due to serratia marascens, a red pigmented bacterium.

    But multiple tests for serratia are done in the case of eucharistic miracles

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      19 days ago

      But without detailed reports? You just take them at their word?

      You believe god is all-powerful, yes? And you believe this is how he chooses to interact with us?

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          18 days ago

          How do you know? Everything you’ve shown so far is natural phenomena and humans making shit up.

          Why do you pretend there is a god?

          People are dying for your mistakes.

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              17 days ago

              Why are you assuming it was created by someone? There is no evidence to suggest that.

              If god doesn’t need a first cause, why does the universe?

              If the universe needs a first cause, why doesn’t god?

              All you have is special pleading and god of the gaps.

              Those are fallacies, not evidence.

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                17 days ago

                Because God and the universe are not equal. They are of different natures entirely. I mean omnipotence IS hard to comprehend for us since we’re human

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                  17 days ago

                  Because God and the universe are not equal.

                  We have evidence for the universe. We have no evidence for god.

                  They are of different natures entirely.

                  Based on your arbitrary, inconsistent definition of “nature”.

                  I mean omnipotence IS hard to comprehend for us since we’re human

                  It’s pretty easy: if an omnipotent being existed, they could do anything. They would need nothing. So if an omnipotent being exists, and suffering exists, it is because that omnipotent being wants that suffering to exist.

                  It’s not love. It’s a death cult.

                  You keep going backwards. You assert things about god and then you pretend there are reasons to believe it. If we go ground-up from what we can sense, no god ever enters the picture. There is no reason to assume his existence.

                  How many genes must be different for two beings to have different natures? Or how is it defined, how is it measured? You’re drawing lines arbitrarily and pretending to know things no person can know.

                  Why did god write such a shitty book? Why are none of his miracles clearly documented? He must not be trying very hard to convince anyone that he is actually there. All evidence suggests that humans invented god.