• SailorFuzz@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It’s not just games anymore. Hence all the chuds losing their minds about “The Odyssey”.

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      2 months ago

      I think the funniest part about the Odyssey conservative backlash is that Ben Shapiro of all people actually liked the movie because it “has clear conservative messaging with the law of Xenia”

      He also for some reason thinks that Xenia is a biblical addition to the film by the director. Not sure how he ended up with that conclusion.

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        2 months ago

        How can it be a Greek epic? They didn’t cast the most famous Greek hero of all!? Where’s Kevin Sorbo?! DISAPPOINTED

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        2 months ago

        There is nothing like republican Xenia:

        • bathing guests in tear gas
        • gifts of insults and oppression
        • exchanging gifts such as children to appease the gods
        • lodging guests in jail
        • safe escort to their next ICE prison camp destination
        • it’s considered rude to ask who the guests are before they have finished the meal offered to them. We don’t know who’s in the camps.
      • GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        He also for some reason thinks that Xenia is a biblical addition to the film by the director. Not sure how he ended up with that conclusion.

        Dear liberals,

        You claim that you’re not sure how he ended up with that conclusion, yet you’re fully aware of what a media illiterate moron he is.

        Curious.

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      2 months ago

      And Star Wars, House of the Dragon, Marvel, Pixar, etc.

      Compared to games the people the meme is referencing is much more prevalent for the TV show and movie medium.

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    2 months ago

    The only way to make a game with brown people or queer people in it is to have made it more than 10 years ago. New thing = woke. Old thing = not woke.

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    2 months ago

    Guys can we please leave politics out of gaming? Not all white people wear gray shirts this is clear misrepresentation of the white identity. Typical libs always trying to force labels on us. Go woke, go broke!

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    2 months ago

    Some conservatives play games.

    They do not constitute gamers as a whole.

    Now, did Epstein help orchestrate gamergate and the rightwing ideology into gaming spaces on reddit and 4chan? Absolutely. I mean, look at Asmongold and his botted audience full of non-white self-hating conservative cuck “gamers.”

    I, for one, have found many welcoming communities and lifelong friends through gaming who couldn’t be further from these ideologies.

    But, just as you have billionaire tech idiots who misinterpet scifi, purposefully or not, you also have gamers who try and claim that gaming, and art as a whole, isn’t political. Or if it is, it’s woke. And I can’t understand how they can lead such an unexamined, non-self-reflective life other than that they really are just…less intelligent. Which, apparently the pinhead Marc Andreessen himself says he never does any self reflection so…guess that tracks.

    I’m sure some of them out there have said things like Wolfenstein are woke cause you kill nazis. And they’re anti-antifa after all. Or because a black woman becomes a leader. Take your pick, if they were smart enough to read between the lines it’s just as woke as Superman to them. Can’t have empathy, only selfishness under neoliberal capitalism.

    But, for those of us that love to understand the references and message art is trying to tell, I mentioned Wolfenstein and I love video game essays on the topics, so here are two. One showing how fucking weird and batshit insane the Nazis were (dyk: they believed the Aryans race was descended from the moon) and another going into just how comfortable the Nazis would be in America, almost like they idolized America or something…oh wait. I’m sure that’s not topical at all right now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydfhmIy9pw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIIglIWwwj0

    To me, growing up with gaming, I’ve always felt that gaming has been a microcosm for society at large, often experiencing some of the same cycles just earlier and at a more rapid pace. Gamergate and mainstreaming rightwing bullshit, microtransactions, live services, an all digital future where you own nothing.

    We’ve got rightoids here in gaming unfortunately. There’s unintelligent people in most walks of life. Don’t be afraid to call them out on their BS and emasculate them. A trick white leftist men should learn is to use your privilege to amplify the voices of those without. Because boy howdy, nothing is more submissive than a conservative white man to another, more dominant white man. Shut those fuckers down and they’ll turn tail when they can’t “master debate” their way out. Gosh knows I’ve done that here and I’m pretty sure that’s why I was on the Tesseract list.

    Eject those fuckers from society, shame them into the shadows where they belong so gaming and its wonderfully diverse creators and communities can flourish. Gaming has always been a refuge for those of us that have been outcast. Don’t let the fact that it’s being mainstreamed allow us to assimilate to their ideologies. Just like we’re seeing with the massive backlash towards Sony and ending physical media. Keep the fight going. Amplify the good voices and stomp out the conservative and corporate controlled voices. We’re gamers, we should know how to solve puzzles, how to keep fighting and defeat insurmountable odds. How many times have we fought gods after just leaving town after fighting rats in a tavern the week before?

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    2 months ago

    dont direct the blame toward gamers, direct the blame toward conservatives, whose views these actually are

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    2 months ago

    I think it’s undeniable there are a lot of very stupid people, and many of them are loud gamers.

    One of the problems is humans are social creatures. Facts don’t change minds. In-group pressure changes minds. (And sometimes horrific trauma, but only sometimes*). The typical person, confronted with an idea that contradicts a non-trivial belief, will evaluate primarily if the person presenting the belief is in-group. The same kind of message delivered by different people has very different outcomes.

    With the Internet, idiots and assholes can find their own social groups to reinforce their shitty beliefs.

    If we want to fix this, we’d have to do the long, expensive, and thankless work of getting them to see us as in-group, and getting them to then adopt better ideas. Incidentally, that’s how the right wing has been operating.

    Laughing at them for being fucking morons is satisfying, but it’s like picking at a scab. It’s not going to heal.

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      I’d rather have my body covered in scabs than have to be friends with people like them.

      Fuck, I’d volunteer for a nudist motorcycle race. I can’t even ride a bike.

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    2 months ago

    Do you realize that you’re currently doing precisely what you’re trying to mock? — Discriminating and generalizing a group of people based on their hobby.

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    2 months ago

    Look, just don’t bring your damn politics to my game about war and politics. We are just here to shoot ̶b̶r̶o̶w̶n̶ people and relax. I don’t want to think about the implications behind the media I am consuming.

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      Yeah! Why are modern games so political?! The classics were so much more nuanced. I remember when Wolfenstein 3D came out… My favorite part playing that game was how ambiguous the creators were about the inspiration for the bad guys.

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    2 months ago

    “”“Normal”“” people logic: The infinity symbol next to everything

    Surely that’s truly normal and 100% reality and definitely the most popular sane opinion with average people IRL :)