Sucks that you had to be a Trump supporting racist, Mr. Scott Adams.

    • tacosanonymous@mander.xyz
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      3 months ago

      I don’t actually want to fight.

      But when it first came out, it fit right in with Dave Barry and Milton, etc. If you were working just to get a paycheck, you could relate. The overuse of sarcasm could be overlooked bc it only happened once a week.

      It never grew or evolved with the times, mirroring Adams.

    • imadethis@fedinsfw.appEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Fighting takes too much energy. It was never a witty comic, but it would resonate with you when you were in the office job that had a nepo boss making random decisions. The life of the comic was just the same joke said in a thousand different ways though, which is why we can now look at it and mentally shrug.

      • Windex007@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Boss: I hav a nu idea

        Gilbert: No don’t u realize how stoopid that

        Boss: oh well I stil say do

        Garfeel: oh boy Monday… NOT

    • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      Okay: it criticized the corporate bullshit machine, how it promotes short-term thinking, and how it turns hopeful, creative people into burned out cynics. Yes, it had flaws, it overused the “work, amiright” trope and it liked to kick downwards, for instance. But at its core it was a sarcastic criticism of capitalism and our broken society that resonated with lots of people. Even if it never spelled such things out.

      Doesn’t excuse the author being a racist asshole, of course.

      Fight me, 1v1 on dust 2 deagle only

    • papalonian@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I was going to suggest looking up some of the earlier comics depicting black people, but those were the Dennis the Menace comics I was thinking of.

      You should look those up anyways, though. They’re pretty bad.

  • HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Dilbert would have hated Adams. PHB is basically Trump and somehow he completely missed it. Every a shame.

    • Rothe@piefed.socialEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Adams made Dilbert pretty insufferable and (right wing) political in his later years.

    • Rose@slrpnk.net
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      3 months ago

      No no no. PHB is Elon Musk, 100%. (Doesn’t know shit about anything and is dumber than a bag of rocks, but is still very enthusiastic about going forth and fucking things up.) Trump is like the CEO of Dilbert’s company (a lot dumber than the PHB, but fortunately too stupid to function most of the time, so his direct subordinates have to do the actual day-to-day fuck-ups, leaving only the most gigantic massive fuck-ups for him to handle personally).

      Edit: And of course it comes as no surprise that when Adams went into the deep end, he worked to “rehabilitate” PHB and other dumb manager characters and made them look better. He was no man of principle, you see.

  • Overkrill@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    stopped clock moment, goku is based off a character from chinese mythology. still bad to call him what john mulaney rightly described as “the laziest slur ever” though. anyway fuck dilbert and his stupid dead dad

    • terranoid@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I used to like his comics as a kid but now, having worked as a software developer for years… I’m starting to look at them different. He was always so fucking demeaning about the pointy haired bald boss, made him an absolute idiot. The constant joke was that the chad Dilbert was smarter than the idiot manager who never understood a thing about technology.

      I bet Scott was an absolute fucking asshole in the office and hated having to be told what to do by people he saw as less than him.

      • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I had a boss in a development job once, post dot com that made the pointy haired boss look like a genius. He wasn’t just uneducated, he was mean and sometimes awful.

        One of his favorite games was three options. For every task he wanted three options to do it. Once you gave him three, he would pick what he deemed the worst of the three just to watch people squirm.

        One day after a particularly uninspired rant, one of the devs waited till he went to lunch and threw his keys into the recycling shredder box. I never went that far myself, but I fully understood it.

      • mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        There’s also that bit that comes out of nowhere in the middle of ‘Everybody wants to be a Cat’. Which is really a damn shame, because that song is honestly kind of a banger otherwise.

        That movie was one of my absolute favorites as a kid and I still maintain that O’Malley is the best Disney ‘prince’ but that part was certainly a choice.

        • imadethis@fedinsfw.appEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Wait, what bit? I still have that song occasionally come on the ‘disney playlist.’ Admittedly, the only thing I can remember is a ‘square with a horn,’ but you’d think I would notice something racist in the middle.

          • mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works
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            3 months ago

            I honestly would not be surprised if the version on the soundtrack has it removed, but in the actual movie there’s an Asian caracature cat (big buck teeth and all) that plays chopsticks with literal chopsticks whilst singing something to the effect of “egg fu Yung, fortune cookie always wrong”

          • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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            3 months ago

            God let’s hope not, I’d have said that about Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey too.

            • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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              3 months ago

              That was a HORRIBLE movie. I hate that some fucking guy probably has it backed up so we will never be rid of it.

  • curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Well damn, I totally missed that Scott Adams died!

    Its late but I still feel like something celebratory is deserved… Maybe a bowl of ice cream with a birthday candle? Yeah I’m gonna go with that.

  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl
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    3 months ago

    I liked dilbert a lot before knowing that the author is like that.

    Is a pitty how you can’t enjoy nothing without the author ruining it anymore.

    • The_Lurker@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      One of the (arguably) greatest poets of the 20th century, Ezra Pound, was an unrepentant fascist. His family tried to have him declared insane in order to preserve his reputation.

      • zikzak025@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        A few modern poets were. William Butler Yeats is another I know of. His image is somewhat sanitized because he’s an important national poet for Ireland, but he was a rich asshole who was supportive of the fascist movements in Ireland (Blueshirts) and abroad (Francoist Spain). Similar (but less overt) is T. S. Eliot, who also became sympathetic to fascism later in life.

    • Landless2029@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I feel that way about a lot of creatives.

      The content can be good when the person is a shitcake.

      Actors, musicians, artists and writers. Every medium has loads of public and secret assholes.

      Ignorance is bliss when you’re not paying for it.

    • Ferroto@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Don’t feel bad. I decided to play ATV Offroad Fury 2 a few months back. I was thoroughly enjoying the soundtrack and decided to google what band made “Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja” since it was my favorite song on the soundtrack.

      Oh a band named the Lostprophets. Oh the lead singer Ian Watkins was murdered in prison. Wait why was he in prison? OH… oh no.

      Don’t google your heros kids.

      • CodexArcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Fuuuuck, I forgot how much I like that song and how I knew all that already. Damn. There’s been several bands and singers over the years I’ve had to forget. I’m not very good at separating art and artist.

      • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        According to a quick google search, he tried to rape a baby.

        Like that’s something I’d joke about someone doing when sarcastically branding them evil… But no he actually tried to rape an infant.

        What the fuck?

  • TomMasz@piefed.socialEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I remember back in the early 90s our sysadmin would grab Dilbert comics from (I think) USENET and print them on our HP laser printer. Adams built up so much goodwill only to shit all over it in the end.

  • NahMarcas@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    My idea of the image is that people like Disney or Toriyama were openly racist (and horrible) and shown it in their cartoons, the diference is they were really successfull P.s: Dont know why’s Kermit there

        • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Popo was based on Jinns or genies. Staff Officer Black, yes that’s his name, comes more from the Japanese getting a lot of Jim Crow era cartoons, but not knowing the historic baggage that comes along with it. It was mostly considered a racial caricature that didn’t really carry the same sort of hate we know it for in America. He also had Native America caricatures that most people don’t seem to have an issue with.

          Honestly, I wouldn’t be looking to Toriyama for anything other then “Big Guy punches other Big Guy until one goes down”. He’s politically naive, not hateful. There’s a short list of other manga-ka who’s politics and… crimes should give you more concern. How Nobuhiro Watsuki is a free man bogus my mind.

    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I can’t find the comic, but the one where Dogbert said “No expensive funeral; just wrap him up in newspapers. He would have wanted it that way.” seems especially appropriate.

    • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      Dude was incredibly racist.

      If you want to be remember well, don’t be shit in life.

    • Etterra@discuss.onlineEnglish
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      3 months ago

      You can’t just remember the good parts and ignore the bad parts. By that same logic you should leave Hitler alone because he was a good painter. Fuck that. That’s not how a real life works, dead or alive.

      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        A lot of his comics were just based on stories his fans sent him. They weren’t really his ideas anyway. If you want to dive deeper into his own mind, check out his Bob Bastard episode of his cartoon. It’s incredibility incel coded.