Ok…but what made things different? I’m confused on the context.
Also, I’m sure bisexuality would have been considered obscene in the 80s, but today it’s so natural that I don’t think anyone would be offended that he was bi.
In the 1990s, ellen degeneres had a hit sitcom on ABC. Then she came out as gay. Pepsi, among other advertisers threatened to pull all advertising from ABC.
So ABC cancelled a show with decent ratings purely because she was gay.
Now, today we know that ellen is a piece of shit for OTHER reasons, but that wasn’t known in 1996. This was a move based purely on Pepsi and others not wanting to be assosiated with a gay person on their tv.
Now for the kicker. Ellen had some support, but it was not a majority. The majority of people at that time celebrated ellen getting removed from tv.
If that happened today? A beloved tv star being removed from tv because they were gay? I think it would have even bigger backlash than CBS is facing right now over Colbert, and 60 Minutes. Back then? America gave the thumbs up.
Ironically enough, I think being bi would have been MORE accepted in the 1880s.
My reading was that if he wasn’t only attracted to men, but I was assuming he was gay. I still don’t know tbh, since I’m just going off this one picture
Well there we have it I guess. I haven’t even watched a documentary on it so I’ll take your word for it.
In my mind it’s more romantic if the people in the picture had a platonic bond, so that’s my bias, but the world doesn’t revolve around my aesthetic preferences, fortunately.
He loved her, clearly. But he actually left her because he was gay and needed to pursue physical relationships with other men.
He presumably was able to get it up with her when they were together so high was likely a bit bi (aren’t we all?), but that he left her while he lover her to be gay makes me think he was much more gay than bi.
Yeah, I was being facetious. Clearly some people are completely asexual. But we don’t need to gatekeep here. I think there’s a spectrum between straight and gay, with bi right in the middle, but plenty of other mixes of being attracted to the same and opposite sex. And I suspect that many self defined straight people would be into some same sex action if the circumstances were just so. The social pressures to be straight (or even gay) probably mask this somewhat.
Oh there are plenty of people offended that bi people exist. Some of them being plain old homophobes (“bi people are just as bad”), some of them being lgbt+ people who think bi people are just indecisive and can’t choose a side/are traitors to the rest of the lgbt+ community (as ridiculous as it sounds).
There are minorities or even majorities where hypocrisy is what they prefer. Its downright stupid how inclusiveness is advertised, yet moral gate keeping is what occurs.
Ok…but what made things different? I’m confused on the context.
Also, I’m sure bisexuality would have been considered obscene in the 80s, but today it’s so natural that I don’t think anyone would be offended that he was bi.
Are you thinking of the 1880’s???
In the 1990s, ellen degeneres had a hit sitcom on ABC. Then she came out as gay. Pepsi, among other advertisers threatened to pull all advertising from ABC.
So ABC cancelled a show with decent ratings purely because she was gay.
Now, today we know that ellen is a piece of shit for OTHER reasons, but that wasn’t known in 1996. This was a move based purely on Pepsi and others not wanting to be assosiated with a gay person on their tv.
Now for the kicker. Ellen had some support, but it was not a majority. The majority of people at that time celebrated ellen getting removed from tv.
If that happened today? A beloved tv star being removed from tv because they were gay? I think it would have even bigger backlash than CBS is facing right now over Colbert, and 60 Minutes. Back then? America gave the thumbs up.
Ironically enough, I think being bi would have been MORE accepted in the 1880s.
The dying of AIDs instead of living???
My reading was that if he wasn’t only attracted to men, but I was assuming he was gay. I still don’t know tbh, since I’m just going off this one picture
Freddy was bi there is no doubt about it.
Well there we have it I guess. I haven’t even watched a documentary on it so I’ll take your word for it.
In my mind it’s more romantic if the people in the picture had a platonic bond, so that’s my bias, but the world doesn’t revolve around my aesthetic preferences, fortunately.
He was involved with her for years, left a love letter, his entire fortune and properties to her out of all his lovers and you think it was platonic?
Bi-erasure is real and entirely disgusting.
He loved her, clearly. But he actually left her because he was gay and needed to pursue physical relationships with other men.
He presumably was able to get it up with her when they were together so high was likely a bit bi (aren’t we all?), but that he left her while he lover her to be gay makes me think he was much more gay than bi.
Nope! Only bi people are bi, there are plenty of people with genuinely no attraction to men or no attraction to women.
Yeah, I was being facetious. Clearly some people are completely asexual. But we don’t need to gatekeep here. I think there’s a spectrum between straight and gay, with bi right in the middle, but plenty of other mixes of being attracted to the same and opposite sex. And I suspect that many self defined straight people would be into some same sex action if the circumstances were just so. The social pressures to be straight (or even gay) probably mask this somewhat.
My folk, I’m bi
I’m just a spoony asexual
Oh there are plenty of people offended that bi people exist. Some of them being plain old homophobes (“bi people are just as bad”), some of them being lgbt+ people who think bi people are just indecisive and can’t choose a side/are traitors to the rest of the lgbt+ community (as ridiculous as it sounds).
There are minorities or even majorities where hypocrisy is what they prefer. Its downright stupid how inclusiveness is advertised, yet moral gate keeping is what occurs.