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Title text: This is how you all fucking sound

[A smug tech bro wearing a sideways cap, watch, chain around his neck stands in front of a data center by a lake with dead fish. A smoke stack blows pollution into the air]

Tech bro: AI is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a suit with cigarette in hand stands in a restaurant while two disgruntled diners cough from the smoke]

Suit: Smoking indoors is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a top hat and suit stands in a factory with two sad and dirty children]

Hat: Child labor is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug plantation owner stands in front of a field with with two angry slaves]

Plantation owner: The Atlantic Slave trade is already here, there’s no going back.

Still Vreni on Bluesky

  • Fuckswearwords@lemmy.world
    509·
    6 days ago

    As much as I hate ai/llm’s, here we’re conflating new technologies with bad practices. This is a fallacy.

    However much we hate llm’s they definitely aren’t going away anytime soon. You can’t make laws or policies to make ideas/technologies go away.

    • spectrums_coherence@piefed.socialEnglish
      81·
      6 days ago

      It is like the machine in industrial revolution stayed and flourished, yet the child labor and unfair labor practice are being fight against.

      Clearly, this is not a justification for current LLM system or those feeding it. I feel it is important to keep these companies accountable for the crime they have commited.

      In the long run, I feel it is also important to think about what do we need to do to keep LLM working for humanity, and organize to make that a reality. If that requires complete removal of LLM as a technology, so be it; but I am not entirely convinced we even need to go that far.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
      158·
      6 days ago

      You can’t make laws or policies to make ideas/technologies go away.

      Yes you can. You write a bill saying AI data centers are banned. That’s it. That’s the bill.

    • WesternInfidels@feddit.onlineEnglish
      83·
      6 days ago

      I’m not sure you can really draw a clean bright line between a “technology” and a “practice.”

      I think you could call the American practice of slavery – which required a network of infrastructure, culture, agricultural conditions and market opportunities, and government policies – a “technology.” As surely as the Internet is, anyway.

      • FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish
        74·
        6 days ago

        Luddites completely failed to prevent industrialisation. But through successive incremental efforts, child labour was banned in most countries.

        Trying to prevent AI is like trying to prevent factories.

          • FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish
            41·
            5 days ago

            I don’t “have to tell myself” anything. Forgive me if I misinterpreted your extremely vague reply, but it sounds like you think anyone who says that AI is going to continue to be used must be some kind of AI-hyping techbro fanboi, which is idiotic.

            I have no interest in trying to convince you that AI is likely going to remain in use, but you really need to make at least a minimal amount of effort at understanding (not agreeing with) other people’s positions, if only for the sake of your own blood pressure.

            • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              23·
              5 days ago

              But you are an AI hyping fanboi. Like, just own it man.

              I’m not that upset, either; when AI has finished tricking people into becoming dependent on it before summarily dropping them into the dark pit of unemployment, I will be one of the few remaining capable of doing any work.