For example, you put yourself through university by studying hard and working full time. Then someone says, you should thank god for giving you the strength. Like wtf do you mean, I busted my ass day in and day out but I’m supposed to thank god for it?
My mom is similar, anytime I ask her some question, she just circles around the discussion (if not outright mentioning) God and how he’s the one behind it all.
I remember when I was a teenager I was annoyed when my mom thanked god for paying off the house instead of right fully taking the credit. I remember her and my father busting their ass every day to pay the bills but not once did I ever see god pitch in so much as a dollar. Yet she gave all the credit to “god” anyway.
I’m irritated with everything thing people do all the time.
Got a bug up your ass and better no one touch the sumbitch, amiright!
/lemmy
This statement is beginning to irritate me.
I was extremely irritated this week when the office catholic, who is quite happy to lie, cheat and steal, told me I’m going to hell unless I accept his god.
Beyond being an obviously shitty (and annoying) thing to do, he’s not even right about his own theology; it’s been the position of the Catholic church for, at least, a century now that not only believers are saved.
So just Ls, all around, for that guy.
Biggest hypocrites I’ve found were in the years I spent at church. Not all of course but there are a ton of people who believe they’re allowed to do whatever they want as long as they repent and they look down on people outside of the church as if they were filth. Hell, even within the church, they had a superiority complex with “fellow worshippers”
Emotional pyramid-scheme.
Gotah start thanking Satan just to level it out.
Atheist here. No, I don’t. The religious person who put in the work still put in the work, through their faith in God. The Atheist does it through their faith in themselves. It’s the same energy, because the religious person doesn’t think they have it in them. They do, but God makes it manageable. I get that. So when they say it about you, they’re just using tense they understand.
Like when they say “bless you” when you sneeze. They’re wishing you health in terms they understand.
This is the first time I translated “bless you”. I never knew it was something religious. In german we simply say “health” (Gesundheit) when someone sneezes.
I say Gesundheit here in Australia like its muscle memory anytime anyone sneezes. My girlfriend hates it but its ingrained in me, I have no idea why. Its just a funny word
Its a hold over from the plague I think, plus general religiousnous in the past. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/14/why-do-we-say-bless-you-notes-queries
That’s interesting. In spanish, we also say “health” (Salud). I wasn’t expecting it to be the same in a language as different as german.
The “religious” word we can say when someone sneezes is “Jesus” (Jesús). Which is also a weird thing to say. I’m pretty sure the origin is still christianism, but I can’t see why someone chose specifically that.
Interesting observation - where I live many / most people will say Salud (good health) when someone sneezes, as an intentionally secular version of the more traditional Jesus
I was raised to say gesundheit. It’s German and basically means something like “here’s to your health.” Apple’s translation service says it just means “health”.
It does mean literally health.
Thanks. I saw someone else say that, and then I used Apple Translate (what’s built into my computer) to translate it. I’m part German but I’m not from Germany and I don’t speak German. I know a couple dozen words, mostly thanks to Rammstein, but my father taught me gesundheit.
Funny thing about languages, and I’m not sure English really does this. You sneeze in Germany, people say “health,” but what they mean is, “to your health” or similar. In Japan, you might be called an “otaku”, which is sort of a badge of honour in the west, as it is taken to mean you are a fan of something and very knowledgeable on the subject. In Japanese, it just means “house” or “your house” — as in, you never leave it. If someone calls you “otaku” in Japanese, they’re saying you never leave your house, you’re a basement dweller, you need to touch grass, and so on. Sure, in the west you can be a “homebody,” someone who prefers to stay at home, but not a “home.” It’s also early, so while I know a couple dozen words in German and like 5 dozen words in Japanese, English is my first language and it may very well have similar terms, I’m just blanking right now.
Bless you is a great example. I don’t think most people say things like bless you or God gave you the strength to be literally religious, they’re just a spiritual person’s way of being polite.
I just say ‘holy fuck’
does that count?
I’m religious, and I say that too. I think you’re in the clear.
I assume most folks using that expression are not using it in a deep spiritual manner, so it probably does. Saying it also usually makes people feel at least a smidge better after venting those feelings, so you may inadvertently also be a little more blessed. 😇
yeah but when I say ‘blessed thee’ people look at me funny
Thats a beautiful way to think about it
I was just working on a post sharing some pics by one of my favorite photographers and wrote a little something along these lines.
They praised God for the opportunity to get these very unique photos. While I’m not religious, and to me, the photographer did all the work following this bird forever, through long hours of darkness and cold, waiting patiently day after day, honing his craft.
And that is a good enough reason for praise from me. But he felt a blessing from outside, and I can appreciate that for him. Did he think providence put him and this bird together? I don’t know if it went that deep. Maybe he was just glad this animal existed, and he is here to experience it, and this moment could have randomly happened for anyone, but instead it happened to him.
Whatever the reason, his beliefs led him to experiencing something amazing. I could just call that inspiration, while he attributes it to his beliefs. Does it make a difference to either of us what the other believes? Nah.
If people aren’t proselytizing at me, they can believe in what they please. When most people say they were glad God gave you the strength to do something, they’re just being happy for you from their perspective. They probably have no idea what your beliefs are, that’s just their default and the words that come to their mind to congratulate you. You should kindly take their words with the intention they were spoken with, not necessarily a literal meaning. Jumping to being offended just makes conflict where there wasn’t any, and that would make you the disrespectful one most likely.
I’m fine with whatever delusions people want to hold as long as they do it away from me. I’m just not interested in thanking a fictional character who hates me.
God yes. (pun intended)
I once overheard a woman in a store going “Jesus provides”… while staring at a wall of drinks carefully stocked by employees and made in factories built and operated by other people.
Anytime someone totally disconnects from reality, I could imagine that irritates the rational people around them. It sure as hell does with me.
I’m currently deconstructing decades of brainwashing and indoctrination.
I think this is far more normalized in the US to bring god into everything. After all, it’s one nation, under god. And in god they trust! It’s on the money after all, thoughts and prayers. And lordy, the language is full of religious references, from oh my god gosh golly to dang darn dammit. There is also the performative “I was praying for” whatever, jeez, Jesus help me. I’m already irritated by all these religious vestiges in the language.
Piety is also this sort of monstrance required for political office in the US. Even when it’s quite unbelievable, like in the case of 47 who would only own a bible if he could sell it. And if you’re not a Catholic or some Protestant, you have you be Mormon or Islamic just enough to tick the religious box. But we might draw the line at Scientology because that’s all just made up nonsense, isn’t it.
I find it offensive when people just assume I believe in any god. The older I get the more I think Christopher Hitchens had a point when he said that ardent believers in monotheist religions are predisposed to vote for and follow authoritarian leaders. One god, one fuehrer.
Theres a reason the authoritarian right loves the religious crowd. Easy grift.
I think this is far more normalized in the US to bring god into everything.
Not at all. I work with a lot of immigrants and wherever religion is heavily involved in the culture they come from, god or gods always get the credit. Jesus, Yahweh, Allah, Ganesha, Buddha, Holy Spirit, it doesn’t matter. It’s all the same different rules.
It happens with any people that are heavily bound to religious practices, routines and rituals. Some places are much less religious than others, but that’s been my experience working with about a a hundred different people that aren’t from where I was born
Yes… doctor saves a critically injured patient… “thank God all mighty !”
removed am I a joke to you? - doc probably.
Also only credit for the positive shit. Mass shooting , never hear them say…thank “God for the killings”
Poor Satan, the light bearer, gets blamed for all the bad things and not the reason for giving us knowledge.
Not particularly.
If you consider your example, you may have worked hard for it, but another person could’ve worked equally hard at all the right things and never have gotten the opportunity to even attempt getting into university. We might call that luck. Someone else might call it God’s doing. Regardless, it’s just a different name for the same thing.
The fighters that thank God for helping them beat the shit out of their opponent.
It is not as much irritated, but totally confused.
I don’t have much contact with religious people -but I had to listen the following story:
How god gave her a sign (after she prayed) and then she found the perfect picture frame in Goodwill…I mean yeah for suuure.
God provided you with a picture frame, meanwhile 11 moths old Timmy died from brain cancer. Probably his parents’ prayers were not strong enough…
I find that deeply religious people completely ignore survivorship bias. They like to talk about people who prayed and got through an illness but they rarely mention the people who prayed and died.
Just a little too close to critical thinking… Which they need to be careful to avoid.
