• Karjalan@lemmy.world
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      Really weird to count death toll only in 'murikan ppl, but yes.

      I would assume/hope that this is because they are targeting an audience that voted for Trump who don’t care about the people America and it’s allies kill.

      And who told us all “dems bad cause they’ll start wars and drive the price of petrol up and made America look bad on the world stage” etc

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    But Trump managed to prevent Netanyahu from releasing what’s in the E files about him unredacted - for now anyway

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    He hasn’t actually managed to secure that deal yet. He might easily get something worse.

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      Agreed. Why would Iran trust him to stick to a deal like we had before? That deal required having a lot of trust in the US government to abide by our deals.

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      It’s almost for sure worse. JCPOA was great (except for time limits) - I doubt they’ll give up nuclear ambitions and allow inspectors

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        At this point, it seems pretty obvious that the only way to ensure the US and Israel don’t try this again, is if Iran does get a nuke.

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          That might actually be the solution.

          I’m pretty much against the proliferation of weapons, and a country where the government is basically a maniac at the reins of a regressive death-cult, shouldn’t have a nuclear weapon.

          But since the US already has a bunch, I can’t see why Iran shouldn’t be allowed to have at least one.

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            Israel has them too, and I don’t really trust them at all. It’s crazy to me that Israel gets to demand Iran doesn’t get nukes, supposedly because Iran will attack them, yet they invade anyone the can. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If it’s good for Israel to have nukes, it’s good for their adversaries.

            My opinion is that no one should have them, but we’re far past that point. I don’t really know what happens in a world where everyone has nukes, but I can’t think of a good argument that these other nations, who invade whoever they want, should be the arbiter of who gets them.

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      It’s already going to be a worse deal because it gave Iran the defacto option to mine/close the Strait of Hormuz anytime it wants more cash.

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        Oh yeah, it’s already going to be a worse deal, the Obama deal was great, kind of crazy they got it, actually.

        It’s just a matter of how BAD the Trump deal will be.

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          Hundreds of state department employees probably worked for 30 years on sanctions, diplomacy, and building trust to get that agreement. Trump blew it all up (including inflation and the economy) because that’s how racist he is. Can’t let a black man get a win, under any circumstances.

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            Also that those brown Iranians are practically cavemen, and will completely surrender at our technological might, as if they’ve never seen a motorized vehicle before, and they can be manipulated and scammed like the sub-human animals he thinks they are.

            Meanwhile, most of the Iranian government leadership holds PhDs, while Trump holds a press conference to announce he was able to identify four animals, three whole times.

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    I’m still laughing that I was banned from a community for saying Harris wouldn’t have invaded Iran.

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      Vaush gets visibly upset when it’s brought up on his stream that Harris wouldn’t have.

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    Yeah, but Obama’s deal was terrible, and Trump’s deal is amazing. Only traitors can’t see the difference. /s

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    It won’t even be as good of a deal, just any deal. But the important part is that it will be Trump’s deal. That’s all he cares about. That his name is on it.

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    What about the war crimes and the thousands of Iranians the U.S. is murdering? What about the more than a hundred schoolchildren who were torn to pieces by bombs during a direct U.S. attack on a school? Of course, those aren’t worth mentioning to this guy - only the U.S. “service members” and gas prices matter.

    All too typical. This country makes me sick…

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        It is, but unfortunately a vast majority of Americans don’t seem to care unless it affects them directly (at the pump).

        And 1/3 will believe any lie told to them.

        Honestly having a hard time coping rn

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          Maybe because he wasn’t on the news every fucking day hearing about some bsllshit half baked cunning plan on how to fuck over everyone who doesn’t have an American Eagle tattoo so I don’t know what he did or didn’t do to fuck up the world.

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            I mean, he was pretty bad, but none of this is his fault. Just in case you aren’t kidding

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              Honestly, no idea. Our news didn’t keep track of minute by minute what he was up to like it seems to with the Orange Murder Monkey you guys keep electing. He might have done something crazy for all I know, and just not tweeted about it at 4 am in a dementia fueled rant.

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      I agree with you on the first topic.

      But with the second topic, how does this country make you sick? We live in a time of plenty not money wise but in technology, and our rights. We have the right to speak, the right to bear arms, the right of religion, the right to far trial. We still have all these gifts to thank God for.

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        Who’s we? And i dont want the right to religion, i want the right to NOT have religion!

        Right to bear arms? How about the right to shoot them? Is that really freedom, the freedom to hide a gun in your pants and if you ever actually use it govt agents kill you?

        Right to speak? But reporters are getting sued by the government for calling out our alcoholic fbi chief for being an alcoholic.

        And which god are you thanking?

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          the one and only God. Our Lord and Saver Jesus Christ.

          I do see on what you are saying about the right to speak. but us as a country are not speaking out to the government, but the ones who do are getting killed and NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!! the stupid government are trying to be in control.

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        We live in a time of plenty, we have enough food to ensure no one goes hungry. We have medicine to cure things like turburculousis that has been killing humans as far back as we know. We choose not to share this plenty fairly, but you have the right to bear arms so I guess that makes everything ok?

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        This country is ruled by a serious criminal and pedophile who not only shamelessly embezzles billions in public funds and imprisons thousands of people in concentration camps, but also plunges the world into terror and war.

        This monstrous regime commits so many repulsive crimes that it is impossible to list them all.

        One of the tools the US employs in this is precisely the technology you mention: One example is Palantir, a diabolical corporation whose founder is an open fascist, with the kind support of both the US government and the butchers in Israel. The groundless, comprehensive mass surveillance offered by these monsters is, in turn, being rolled out to other countries by U.S. lobbyists with government support, in order to curtail the very civil liberties you speak of.

        God has nothing to do with this; rather it is the lack of consistency, for US citizens remain largely passive in the face of all the crimes of their regime. Now and then, as on May 1, there are symbolic protests that, due to their one-off nature, naturally remain ineffective. And so the criminals at the top of the U.S. oligarchy can simply continue to terrorize the world, since U.S. citizens -who are the only ones who could put a stop to it - don’t even rise up against their own exploitation.

        If the U.S. does indeed have the extensive rights you claim, how is it possible that the country is still run by organized crime? How is it possible that, despite all this, the citizens do not go on strike until the fascists are removed from power?

        That is what I despise: The U.S. is a country that demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that even the most horrific crimes go unpunished for the billionaires who commit them. In doing so, the U.S. sets an example for all the monsters of this world - and not only that, because the U.S. regime also actively and intentionally undermines international law, since it stands in the way of their crimes.

        Why do you think the US has never recognized the International Criminal Court and has always actively obstructed its work?

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    It’t not even close to Obamas deal. So far it is just a big fuckup, as usual with Trump.

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    He is not getting anything close to Obama’s deal. Also we get to keep the high gas prices.