If we can’t be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?

As I know the comments will be, uhhh, fun, I’ve turned off reply notifications.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    Damn right I didn’t vote in the last primary!

    … because I was fucking homeless!

    Can’t vote without a permanent mail receiving residence!

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      9 months ago

      My sources say you can in all 50 states by listing a park, shelter, or other place where you spend time as your residence and shelter, church, etc as your mailing address. You should be able to go to a polling location and get a ballot even if you don’t receive one in the mail.

      Just saying that I think there are options for you next time if you find yourself in the same situation. You are not without some power.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 months ago

        Your sources are broadly wrong.

        Before I became homeless… I worked at a nonprofit, assisting the homeless.

        Irony aside, no, a park wouldn’t work at all, and most shelters actually don’t let their ‘residents’ use it as an address, support or recieve mail for them.

        Of those that do, they all nearly all have the barest of minimum effort put in to making sure residents receive their mail in a timely fashion, and its fairly common for them to lose your mail, bar you from obtaining it for arbitrary and petty reasons, if not just outright stealing it.

        And spare me your ‘you have options’ speech.

        I did the math, I ran the data, that was my job, I did it better than the government does it.

        The PIT is bullshit, multiply that number by about 4, at least, to get an accurate count.

        I distinctly remember my horror upon realizing that covid had utterly broken our seasonal trends, entirely. Just straight up needs being unmet.

        Which leads into: The shelters were all completely full back in '22.

        When cops go and clear a settlement and say they offered access to resources?

        What that means is they gave people a phone number, to people who often don’t have phones, a number that may or may not still be in service, where if you go through a 30 to 60 minute phone interview, you’ll discover that “oh well we can’t offer you any help at this time, have you tried this other number?”

        … and that was all before Trump slashed roughly 80% of SNAP, Section 8, and grant funding to non-profits serving the homeless, before the Grants Pass decision functionally made being homeless a crime, before the tariffs, before CECOT, ICE invasions, and before ICE/FEMA began building 23 concentration camps, in line with Trump’s stated policy, from before he got elected to round 2, to round of the homeless into concentration camps.

        In summary, fuck off.

        I have PTSD now, thaks for triggering it with yet more useless and wrong advice, you have bo idea how bad things are.

        … and I couldn’t get to ballot place if I wanted to, because I was crippled, couldn’t get a ballot if I managed to get to a polling place, because my ids were all stolen, along with everything but the clothes on my back.

        I had to bullshit my way from seedy motel to shelter to seedy motel for 2.5 years before I managed to get an actual, current, proper drivers liscense.

        … and I’m the guy who used to design the data systems used to manage helping people do things like that, at scale.

  • null@lemmy.org
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    9 months ago

    Your vote for a third party without ranked choice voting is a waste of your vote

    • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      My district is +13 democrat.

      So as someone who actually understands the hideous monstrosity we call the electorial college, I’ll vote for whoever I like.

      3-4% on an exit poll is more of a change than my vote would have anywhere else.

  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    I vote in primaries, I vote for the more progressive candidate. I’ve also held my nose for too long voting for the candidate with more money and especially when they are just MAGA lite.

  • Professorozone@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    There may be a ring of truth in that, but I’m registered “no party” in my state and therefore CANNOT vote in the primaries. I’ve considered changing my affiliation to Republican, so I can vote I’m their primaries.

    • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      9 months ago

      I did, you should too. Could function as useful camouflage someday too.

      “What do you mean I’m accused of terrorist sympathizing? I’m a registered Republican, I vote in the primaries, for the love of Pete!” (I gotta work on my chud vernacular, to be sure)

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          8 months ago

          You’re not wrong, if any of us become interesting enough there’s not really any hiding. But it’s not magic either and there are a whooooole lot of disgruntled internet personas for them to monitor. I’m with ya though, I try to limit the details I give while simultaneously aware that it’s probably pointless.

  • butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social
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    9 months ago

    What (presidential) primaries? I haven’t had a presidential primary with more than one option since Obama 1, and I was slightly too young to vote. So maybe actually have fucking primaries?

    EDIT: yes I vote in all the other primaries I can. 

      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Since the primaries are held at different times in different states, lots of people don’t have an option by the time the presidential primary gets to their state since it’s essentially over and all the other candidates have dropped out.

  • FrowingFostek@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    If they put up Gavin Newsom I’m staying home. Additionally I will encourage anyone I know to do the same. I haven’t stayed home for a primary since I’ve been able the vote.

    I refuse to vote for another centrist Democrat and I’m tired of acting like the only option is to choose the lesser of two evils.

        • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          America is a conservative country, being mad that there are no perfect leftists to vote for is childish. Damage control and pushing the needle away from the right is our only pragmatic option. Anything else is just wishful thinking. The world sucks and there is no quick fix, bitching about that and doing nothing will, unsurprisingly, accomplish nothing. Be realistic, not dogmatic.

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            8 months ago

            America is whatever the population chooses it to be. I’m not looking for a perfect leftist option. I’ve been voting for the most left candidate since I’ve been able to vote (primaries, general, midterms, local, school board).

            I believe in the electoral/civic process but, if the ratchet has tightened so far to the right then I don’t want to keep voting for the center. My position of abstaining from the process, and encouraging others to do the same, is my way of pushing the needle left.

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              8 months ago

              Not touching nor interacting with the needle enables it only to go farther right.

              I get it, shit sucks, and everything is broken, but that is just a fucking stupid and masturbatory response to the situation. It’s very self centered and myopic, I’m sorry, man, but you’re not a hero, nobody is, and that is a shit excuse to do nothing while patting yourself on the back like it was something.

              Not directed at you just a general statement. If you don’t vote then you’ve quite literally not done anything, and you didn’t do nothing for the sake of others, you did nothing to fulfill your own ego, stop bragging about it.

  • Sharkticon@lemmy.zip
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    9 months ago

    I mean you say that, but in the state I live in a progressive candidate is running and getting huge engagement with the largest primary turnout ever I think but certainly in decades. All while the establishment Democrats are fighting hard against him.

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      How about the 2026 primaries right now?

      Yes, not great that the presidential primaries were effectively skipped, but people need to participate in a broad set of elections instead of just being fixated on the presidential race.

      Your smaller races are the best shot to shape everything. If folks only bother to show up when a president is up, can’t be shocked that the establishment isn’t in touch with you.

  • SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip
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    9 months ago

    You’ve learned that it’s every time, but you haven’t come up with a better strategy than whining about it? Don’t worry, the Old Man Yells at Cloud strategy will work next time! I mean, it has to, right?

  • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    It’s not just about voting. We need more people RUNNING!

    Knock Down The House

    Regardless of your opinion on AOC, this documentary about how she got elected lays out the steps. IMO it’s how AOC got elected that is the key to fixing America. Americans need to make that happen every single election. Systematic problems need more than 1 presidential term to reverse after all.

    1. Independent local grassroots electoral movement. Dedicated to getting/organizing volunteers, signature gathering, door knocking, everything from getting candidates on the ballot to winning in the election.

    2. Candidate nominations. AOC didn’t sign up, her BIL or someone nominated her and the Grassroots Movement approached her to run.

    3. PRIMARIES. PRIMARIES. PRIMARIES. Target establishment DNCs who clearly have more in common with corporate lobbyists than their own constituents.

    4. Run the numbers game. Only 1/4 of their candidates won. Democrats should face a primary EVERY SINGLE ELECTION.

  • GarboDog@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Never knew you could vote for primaries, it was explained to us by the adults growing up that primaries are voted by your representatives. When we learned that was a flat out lie the last primaries we could vote in was too late and now we dont even live in USA anymore. Damn