• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    But I’ve been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead.

    I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.

    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Don’t you think people deserve to vote for someone they actually support, rather than the least terrible option though?

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        Sure. That’s not mutually incompatible with preferring the least terrible option to the most terrible though.

        People view it as “Democrats don’t deserve to win because they didn’t have a good enough candidate”, when they should be viewing it as “Democrats didn’t field the candidate I deserve, but I still deserve better than the Republican”.

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      4 months ago

      They’re not, they’re delivering groceries to their neighbors??? Are we reading the same thing???

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          Well yeah. Who else could you possibly be talking about? Nobody is ruining their own country, that screenshot is about people in a warzone being invaded, not people who are intentionally harming themselves.

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              You blame victims of genocide for their own oppression, and now you’re accusing me of being a bot. This is projection, as you have no humanity yourself.

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                  ICE doesn’t have a city, they are not people but a legal entity. The individual people who joined ICE are traitors and are thus not American. ICE cannot destroy “their own city.” That doesn’t make any sense.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      I was listening to an interview of a progressive in my country. And based from his observation, he mentioned many politicians just don’t care. Like, really don’t care.

      There is a reason as to why politics is said to be where psychopaths coverge, because they want positions of power for power’s sake. So that explains why many politicians really don’t care.

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        When you have majority of funding through corporations, why will the politicians care about people? If people start lobbying and competing for money, the politicians will start caring

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          Legal bribery aka lobbying needs to be taken out of politics. Money shouldn’t be involved but it is unfortunately. Even the most ‘sacred’ position is now head by a literal businessman

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      They don’t care, they’ll just say whomever they deported were MS13 members engaging in “violent pedophilia”.

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      The right: these extremists decide elections so we’ll make it our whole platform again

      The left: these extremists decide elections so we’ll blame them again

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              Both sides onviously aren’t the same, one is more evil than the other. But they are both evil.

              Obama has the blood of tens of thousands of innocent civilians on his hands, shame on anyone helping him wash.

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            Nobody thinks that.

            Some of them think that it would have eventually reached this point anyway, if not under this republican administration, then the next one. And there’s a good case for that.

            Others think you can’t sign on to far worse atrocities that just happen to be perpetrated elsewhere in the world, no matter what, because you are then personally complicit. Also a valid viewpoint.

            The performative cruelty that this administration is practicing is genuinely a new low, it’s true. But the burden of doing something about it was and is on people with institutional power, not random ordinary people. The democrats could easily have won the election and they chose not to, and after the trump team, they are the ones to blame next.

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              The people that voted for Trump are first to blame. People that didn’t vote are second. It’s that simple. There are reasons why a person may have decided not to vote, but none of them change that fact that not voting was effectively a vote for Trump. I view non voters a small step above Trump voters. They at least have the same level of intelligence and critical thinking skills as one another.

              • Optional@lemmy.world
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                Just so you know, you’re replying to .ml there. I mean, I agree, but reasoned discussion isn’t going to win out with the leftist leftists that ever lefted.

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                  Yea, I saw that after processing the comment. Still, I want people that may be unaware and read the comment chain to understand the reality. Silence is complacency.

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                Do third party voters come in between those two options or after “didn’t vote”?

                Seriously, it’s all true. It is the fault of Trump Voters, the DNC, 3rd party voters, and non-voters.

                Hell, I’ll go one further and say those who do nothing but vote for the most progressive Dem in the primary and then vote for the Dem no matter who it is AND that is all they have ever done to address how terrible the Dem party is, also share in the blame.

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                not voting was effectively a vote for Trump

                That’s totally fallacious. Not voting is not voting. The only way to arrive at that conclusion is that you think that one specific party is by default entitled to votes, no matter what they do, which is wrong. Politicians have to earn votes. They chose a platform which was not popular and so they lost. And they did that to protect specific interests.

                I do get being upset at people who are nominally on your side but decided not to vote. It’s understandable. But in no way are they anywhere near as much to blame as the people who had a more than two billion dollar marketing budget for their political campaign and decided “fuck what the people want”.

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                  No it’s fact. Not voting supports the less good candidate 100% of the time in FPtP.

                  And yes, non voters are more responsible for this than the DNC sending a shit message. If non voters and third party voted Kamala, we wouldn’t have a dictator in the White house right now. The DNC didn’t put him there, voters for Trump and non voters did.

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                  With the way our first past the goalposts system works, it’s true. By not voting you’re saying that you’re fine with either outcome.

                  When one of those options has straight up told you they’ll be a dictator on day one and you’ll never vote again, as well as publishing their playbook on how they’re going to do it, choosing to not vote against them is saying you’re fine with it.

                  And it’s not like protest voting actually hurt the DNC. It just hurt every vulnerable person in the country.

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          Yeah, we did, and the people who purposely threw the election rather than compromise one bit with what the people wanted are responsible.

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              Because if you want anything to change, the pressure has got to be applied in the right direction. If people just keep blaming their neighbours, of course no politician will ever feel like they have to do anything to improve things.

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                If you want anything to change, you need to take effective actions. The consequence politicians face by taking ineffective actions is maybe not winning their race. The consequence our neighbors face by taking ineffective actions is the erosion of their civil rights.

                If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings, they’re not just going to magically know why you didn’t vote or vote third party.

                Protest voting doesn’t apply the pressure you think it does.

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                  If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings

                  Sure, that’s a thing you should do

                  they’re not just going to magically know why you didn’t vote or vote third party

                  They actually expend substantial effort and sums of money to find this out, there’s nothing magical about it.

                  Protest voting doesn’t apply the pressure you think it does.

                  On the other hand, voting for them anyway if they do something absolutely abhorrent and beyond any kind of humanity tells them they can get away with anything and is just a race to the bottom.

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            4 months ago

            “You must accept this boot to the neck or we let the crazy guy shoot you,” isn’t the slam dunk argument you think it is.

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    4 months ago

    I know this is meant to refer to eating the paper but what if someone ate the food. Like munching on celery while ICE pulls you out your window.

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      Lmfao I thought they meant eat the food jfc I am dumb. The worst part is, i’ve seen this tweet before, and I understood what it meant the first time. Pregnancy brain.

      This time. I figured neighborhood must be an app like uber eats, and they’re saying just act like the food is for yourself.

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    4 months ago

    What the actual fuck. This is straight from Anne Frank’s diary, just change their coats.