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    Truthfully I think a new war now would destroy them. If they let midterms happen

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      Truthfully I think a new war now would destroy them

      why do you think that? tell the public that X is a threat to america, so therefore we need to invade/obliterate X-- done, mission accomplished. see: bush 2

      If they let midterms happen

      this is key. trump will put pressure on state governors and state boards of elections to throw away all the D votes, because that’s what he fucking does. and even if that fails, it seems to me that he gets whatever the fuck he wants anyway.

      so again: doesn’t matter. i hope you don’t have kids

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        why do you think that? tell the public that X is a threat to america, so therefore we need to invade/obliterate X-- done, mission accomplished. see: bush 2

        You are forgetting 2 very big reasons why Bush was able to start that war

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            Sure, but let me get ahead of what you’re going to say. 9/11 provided the justification. As of right now, we have not had another 9/11 like event to justify invading another country. Citing a vague threat used to work immediately after 9/11, but that faded after about a decade. All you have to do is look at public opinion of the war in Afghanistan. The vague "threats’ of danger stopped working.

            Of course as with all horrible things about 30% of the dumbest demographic will support it no matter what.

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              The vague "threats’ of danger stopped working.

              no offense, but you can’t be serious… the fascism we’re living in right now is NOTHING BUT “vague threats”-- the brown people, the gays, the trans, the “woke”-- they’re all coming to eat your children. and apparently that’s all that’s needed at this point, because, for one thing, we’re watching the shit happen

              we are not living in 2001. we’re in fascist america 2026, where people take the words of the party (covid is a hoax) over the words of actual doctors (get a vaccine).

              event to justify invading another country

              please don’t try to tell me that this nazi fascist authoritarian police state “government” won’t do something without “justification”

              you are still sitting there thinking that any molecule of trump’s government feels like they need your approval to do whatever tf they want. can i tell you something? THEY DON’T

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              Loyal tribal members, they aren’t neccessarily dumb, though many are, they trust their tribe knows what they are doing. You can call that dumb, but how many people trust the democrats to know what they are doing? How many trusted kamala being anointed without a contest?

              We all trust the wrong people, they just trust the worst people.

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          Not really doomerism when we literally had the DHS secretary on mic in public say “we’re going to have ICE making sure the right people vote for the right leaders”.

          When the enemy tells you their plan, believe them the first time.

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      People didn’t even show up for their own human rights, they won’t show up because of Iran. Trump will just bomb them to hell and leave it a mess, so no boots on the ground imagery.

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        Oh yeah if he didn’t put any boots on the ground that’s different. The American people have a record of being just fine boning anywhere and anything