It has always been a fantasy - pushed by gun manufacturers/sellers and believed by people who like to fantasize but are unwilling to uproot their lives to actually do it.
“Every government official” is outed as a child rapist? This kind of ridiculous hyperbole doesn’t help one’s argument.
Let alone the idea that everyone here has a million guns pouring out of our clothes at all times.
All the people with 100 ak47s joined ICE
Turns out the lax gun laws were never meant to protect the citizens from the government, but to protect the government from the people, because easy militia. I know that ICE doesn’t use their member’s private guns, but fact is that most of their members are gun owners who eagerly applied to join ICE. They have been waiting for an opportunity to roam the streets and shoot people legally for ages. They have been conditioned for times like these.
That is accurate, it was supposed to replace a standing military.
A supposition made when rifle barreling was the pack of military technology, the solar system had only six planets and when people wrote with feathers…
Fucking update that shit ever so often. Jesus.
All of the gun owners will rise up, but they will stand on the side of tyranny.
My best buddy is hard core 2A, not full right wing but he tows the line. He’s literally been preparing for this exact scenario the past 15 years of his life. When I ask him about this he says “there’s two sides to every story” then he spits out the same drivel they all spew. I told him the problem is that he and the rest of the 2A folks are just as afraid as the rest of us. They just don’t want to admit it. Probably more afraid, because I haven’t been building a small arsenal the past few years. All those guns, ammo, and fancy gear for what? It’s fucking cosplay. A nerdy hobby. Like model trains but these 2A cunts all act like a tough guy that’ll lay down the law if push comes to shove. Well we are being shoved. What now? At least take the guns to a protest so they can get some fresh air. Are these 2A folks afraid their guns might get dirty or something?
Train enthusiasts are more courageous cause if they get into a fight, they’d use large metal hand tools; 2A cosplayers would stand around talking about how big calibre weapon they got.
“Maybe I can be a rich pedo one day!”
This has got to be your shortest comment ever. Could you make it longer for us?
Enjoy my brevity while it lasts, lol.
It’s because we’re all educated enough to have seen similar uprisings fail unless we can gain more support. With times getting hard, Republican voters are starting to turn on their masters.
Also, last year there were votes (plural) where every single Republican voted to keep the Epstein Files sealed and every single Democrat voted to release them to the public. It’s pretty wild to claim “every government official”.
both of your statements contradict
Republicans and democrats would still vote pretty much the same in next elections no matter what happens. America’s cultural divide is too deep now to actually fill
There is nothing contradictory in my statement.
Yep. Those of us paying attention realize that 1/3 voted for the fascist, 1/3 for Harris and some progress, and 1/3 didn’t bother to care because they’re lazy and didn’t care.
The only way the tide turns is convincing 2/3 they have to either vote at all or change their affiliation, which is a huge ask given the problem here.
If theyre in, let’s welcome them. Let’s fix it.
It was never gonna happen, even if people believed it.
You want to fight authoritarianism? Be an example of disobedience. Violence activates authoritarian followers against you 100% of the time, but an act of defiance gives courage to people who would be your allies. Most people don’t know how to defy authority, are taught not to. They need to be the second one to do it. It gets easier with practise, but it’s hard to be the first one.
bullshit
non violence doesnt work if the fascist state is already doing violence against you. Performative protests change nothing
This. The fascists want militant action against them so they can overtly accelerate their own use of force exponentially. Until we have obvious overwhelming numbers, we have to remain peaceful.
The real power, though, is our ability to strike. Both from work itself and from buying things from mega corporations.
I’m hoping more people find all this out before I end up in the camps for domestic terrorism for speaking out.
Because the large majority of Americans don’t have guns, in particular the sane and peaceful ones. It’s skewed by the minority that have a lot of guns, and they aren’t the ones who seem to have an issue with the shit going on
The republicans have no interest in doing something against ICE or Trump. Because they do something against the brown people and the woke people. They view them as subhuman and want them gone. When they get weapons now and fight the government, they fight the values of the right and hence themselves. It‘s us versus them for those people.
yeah but that’s different. because the people they’re going after are BROWN. So it’s completely different. we can’t have brown people just like running around enjoying their lives, now can we?
I don’t think it’s a lack of willingness, but rather a lack of ability. Militant action requires a lot more than simply owning a gun.
I imagine ICE would be less openly hostile when there would be a legitimate risk of getting shot by a vigilante.
Not saying it justifies having the amount of guns Americans have, but since they already have them they should be used for the reason they have them, to oppose a tyrannical government.
most people who care are also intelligent enough to realize that just opening fire is a losing move
So many people expecting large formations of armed Americans to just storm the capital, talk about brain washed by Hollywood. We’re the French, Dutch, etc. Resistance baby!
The American people missed out on a golden opportunity to do something really funny about a month ago…
They also understand OPSEC. Can’t carry out orders if the energy knows what you are planning
Heretic!
If those gun toting hicks could read. They’d be very upset.
It’s almost as if some form of militia, possibly a well regulated one, would also be necessary.
“Well regulated” in the 1700s sense or “well regulated” in the “I think the government should have direct control over the militia that is supposed to violently fight the government” sense? Because imo one seems more viable than the other.
The second amendment was never intended to let the people overthrow the government. It was intended to serve instead of a standing army for the defense of the republic. Madison didn’t want military power centralized in the Federal government.
Ehhh the federalist papers make it pretty clear that the second amendment and the aforementioned militias were for threats both foreign and domestic. Plus, considering the whole “starting a revolution against what was at the time ‘their own’ country” thing alone I think they recognized the possibility that they may need to do it again in the future.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants” and all that.
-Thomas Jefferson
Not only did he not want it centralized, it was really uncommon and expensive to have a standing professional army at the time. The US was a new nation, and it was pretty poor. The idea they’d be able to have a federal professional military, at least one large enough that you don’t need supplemental militias, would probably be laughed at.
It was a powerful lie to convince most gun owners that a “right to a well-regulated militia” meant being able to individually own a gun and never be trained to use it or organize.
What are the guns for then? I thought the second amendment was to fight the government? But now you’re saying being armed is not enough?
Why even let people arm themselves, if all they do with the weapons is school shootings?
I’m saying you need training and organizing in addition to the guns.
And to answer your last point, personally I’d be more in favour of citizen’s weapons depots rather than privately owned guns for the murder/suicide reasons you mention.
There is a basic conflict between freedom of speech and democracy. As long as people’s sources of news and information are permitted to lie and spread misinformation and disinformation, citizens will be unable to make informed decisions.
Must downvote out of principal for incorrect use of the “cat looks inside” meme in a meme-themed community.
Guns McGee, who has a bed made of 10,000 AK-47s with 20 more hidden underneath it, is a statistical outlier and should not have been counted.
The average American owns roughly 1.5 guns, with 40-50% of all households owning at least one gun. Of those households, those who own 2 or more guns account for about 89% of all guns in the US. (Fucking absurd)
Too bad the half of Americans with too many guns and not enough common sense are the ones who love fascism. Of course, if they had more common sense, they’d probably have less guns. A real catch-22 there…
Just having guns around wont ward off authoritarians like Homer Simpson’s anti tiger rock. You actually need to exercise it to work.
Gun ownership is disparate. While the mean is 1.2 guns per American the median is 0. gun owners tend to own many guns. 68% of Americans don’t own a gun at all per pew research, and about 20% of American gun owners own 65-70% of all guns.
also the “it’s so i can overthrow the government” crowd was mostly (though not universally) talking about a dangerous persona like a black woman, not their godking pedophile. the people with guns who would challenge this are maybe 2% of the population and 0.5% of the firepower of the united states military forces.
learn from our mistake: never let a single faction develop a monopoly on access to violence
Which is the same with any sport. Most people don’t own a kayak, the people who do typically own multiple.
