• SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    I used to say “support all ICE victims” but now I guess I have to make an exception.

    I’m not usually one to indulge in schadenfreude, but yeah when ICE comes for the cops I guess I’ll just grab my popcorn.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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    8 months ago

    A recurring problem with joining extremist organizations is that eventually it will outpace your personal extremist views and behaviors … and then you will be a victim of it.

    “First they came for the …” is about people that were Nazis but not Nazi enough … and in a Nazi-like society no one except Trump/Hitler will ever be enough Nazi to not be possibly culled until the leaders cull themselves.

    And remember that when they cull the bottom group that creates a new bottom group. and eventually that new bottom group is gonna include you.

    and they not gonna stop culling because of you

  • ObsidianZed@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Since ICE officers don’t normally carry identification, or badges, or even show their face, there’s nothing illegal about dressing up as an ICE officer as long as you don’t actually claim to be an officer, right?

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents have been pulling guns on off-duty officers of color while illegally demanding their citizenship papers.

    And when they identify as a cop, ICE doesn’t verify and just walks away…

    “And after the officer became so concerned, they were forced to identify themselves as a Brooklyn Park police officer in hopes of slowing the incident and de-escalating the incident down.”

    “The agents then immediately left after hearing this, making no other comments, no other apologies, just got in their vehicles and left.”

    Bruley said the anecdote was not an isolated incident.

    • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
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      8 months ago

      Is everyone a cop on this blessed day? (Or some similar, not legally protected title, think security officer is enough?

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        8 months ago

        You and I wouldn’t be able to use jargon or talk procedures. It would be immediately obvious we were faking. Come up on me and tell me you’re in IT, see how that goes. :)

        • Mommy Longarms@sh.itjust.works
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          8 months ago

          These ice goons aren’t cops though. They’re just a bunch of mall Ninjas. You could probably just start giving them Startrek technobable and they wouldn’t know the difference.

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          8 months ago

          I’m at least IT adjacent and have somewhat of a homelab, I feel I could pass for a few minutes longer than an average person.

          Cop jargon? I Fail.

    • Left as Center@jlai.lu
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      8 months ago

      Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents have been pulling guns on off-duty officers of color while illegally demanding their citizenship papers.

      Or: Off duty cops see dangerous fascists doing illegal stuff and do nothing.

    • Darkness343@lemmy.worldBanned
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      8 months ago

      The fourth Reich cannot happen in the US or anywhere in the world with imperialist tendencies. It can only happen by true German/Austrian hands.

    • Zink@programming.dev
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      8 months ago

      Yeah but then that potential wake-up call gets put through the 2026 filter and out the other end comes… “Trump claims Harlem should be carpet bombed and casino parking garage built – midwest gang violence the last straw even if it was Law Enforcement gangs this one time.”

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      8 months ago

      OR, the situation becomes a case of mutually-assured destruction, like the Cold War. The cops don’t want that fight, and the Panthers know it. ALL Cops are cowards at their core, they can’t exist in society without carrying an arsenal, and elevating themselves above their fellow citizens. They won’t engage someone they KNOW is equally armed, and BETTER TRAINED, and knows the law better.

      They’d rather go after poor working people just trying to get by. They are more compliant, and can’t afford lawyers.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I guess watching ICE beat up a senator on live TV wasn’t enough for these dumb motherfuckers to pick a side.

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    8 months ago

    This is where if police departments wanted to gain credibility, they’d be arresting the ICE agents for assault with a deadly weapon.

    Qualified immunity has a “reasonableness” portion to it. It’s a pretty strong argument that ICE isn’t being reasonable if a cop arrests them for assaulting a cop.

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      8 months ago

      If cops have qualified immunity that is very often used to say cops can easily get away with murder, and agents have Vance blanket twitter pardons, can they just all kill each other with no legal consequences?

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Qualified immunity protects government actors from civil penalties as a result of their actions while on duty and when not violating the constitutional/civil rights of citizens (that’s the “qualified” part). It does not and protect government actors from criminal prosecution and does not grant them license to violate existing laws, and it never has.

      This is also true for ICE, which is why Vance and Stephen Miller are suddenly so keen to start screeching that they think ICE now magically has “absolute” immunity, which there is also no legal basis for whatsoever. Those pulling the strings know that ICE is in fact routinely breaking the law, and they’re desperately trying to get out ahead of it while anyone believes that any shred of equal protection under the law still exists.