We need never be afraid of the vote of informed Americans. It is only the ignorant voter we have to fear, ignorant politically, no matter how fine his house or how expensive his schooling. Such people have never experienced democracy; they have merely enjoyed its benefits. It is hard to explain what democracy is; it is necessary to participate in it to understand it.
The former Berlin businessman I referred to earlier told me that he blamed his own group, people with the time and the money and the opportunity to know better, for what happened to Germany. “We ignored Hitler,” he said. “We considered him an unimportant fellow, not quite a gentleman, not of our own class. We considered it just a little bit vulgar to bother with him, to bother with politics at all.”
They thought of the government as “They.” The only possible route to a clear conscience in politics is to accept political responsibility, either as an active member of the party in power or as an equally active member of the loyal opposition.
–Robert A Heinlein, Take Back Your Government
Any reputable source for this? This could be one of the most damning photos I’ve seen, depending on veracity and context.
I only found a source saying it’s likely intended for clickbait: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/watch-image-trump-young-girl-030000613.html
Firstly let me say this. tRUMP is a convicted rapist.
And, in my opinion, that although not priced in court he definitely has raped children. I think that orange thing has raped many children in his lifetime. There’s far too much evidence pointing to him not being a kiddie fiddling paedo.So, got that, he’s definitely a child rapist. Now with that said this picture is supposedly one of him and his daughter that has been slightly doctored with a box. I saw on another thread that there were other pictures taken at the same time, it was something to do with a plane ride for her birthday.
The real icky thing is I also think he used to fiddle with her when she was younger. There’s a video from years ago where she was showing off her family house but when she got to her bedroom her whole demeanour changed then changed back to jovial once she had left the bedroom.
The real damning thing is that by simply putting a black box over a head that people believe that nefarious actions were taking place. And that the obese orange buffoon’s reputation is so bad that a simple box gets the average person to start to question things…
Well, the other reason is that we know he likes girls that look like his daughter.
Sex is one of the few things they have in common, after all.
Listen, can we not jump to conclusions. Just because he said they have sex in common AND there’re suggestive pictures of her on his lap AND that he says he’d date his daughter AND his best mate for decades was a convicted child trafficker and paedo AND there’s been lots of sexual assault court cases against him that doesn’t mean I like cheese. Ok?
It doesn’t mean that at all. Obviously I like cheese just as much as the fat orange paedo likes to fuck kids, but we shouldn’t just jump to the cheese conclusion!!!
People need to understand that USA is a superpower. And most importantly, USA owns the western world. Most trade happens in dollars. Without USA the western world will collapse. USA has lot of military power in the world. If USA leaves NATO then NATO will become powerless. That’s why nobody wants to confront trump or any other USA president. The western world wants to be in the good side of USA.
Without USA the western world will collapse
Jesus christ dude. Do you hear yourself?
Ok… But that has nothing to do with the message in the picture.
That is the explanation for the rest of the world. But the question implied by the post is why US-Americans don’t do anything to stop their leader as the Germans did not do anything to stop their leader.
We have done many things, thousands of things.
Unfortunately, we are well trained to use legal options, like voting or attending protests or calling our congressional rep.
These haven’t worked, and they won’t work.
The saddest part is people thinking “trump” is the problem, they’ve put the cart before the horse. If he dies, there will be lots of celebration, but still no solution to our problem(s).
Trump isn’t Hitler. He wants to be, but never can be. He’s not smart enough. He’s not creative enough. He’s not hard working enough. He’s never struggled. He never fought for his country. The same can be said for most of his “closest” henchpeople.
Trump and MAGA will never be Hitler and the Nazis.
(I’m glad for it, I don’t want another Hitler, but Trump will never achieve that.)
Trump IMO is the stereotypical American. I don’t question why they aren’t stopping him because he’s like them.
Tbf, that was true of the Germans and the Nazi party too. People talk about Nazis and Hitler as if Hitler himself was the main guy who did everything, a monster cut from whole cloth… but they were democratically elected because they spoke to the fears, anxieties, and antisemitism of voting Germans at the time.
What should I be personally doing? I am also being persecuted. Should I apply for attic openings? Idk man
If you haven’t already, start making friends with your neighbors. You might need each other.
My neighbors are maga
I have her tagged as “Insufferable girl”. She has expressly said to me in a comment reply that her goal is to be an insufferable bitch online. So I doubt she’s able to make friends with anyone that easily. 😬
Says the literal transphobe troll that follows my comments everywhere because I refuse to speak with them. You need serious help.
Ah yes, now I remember why you are such an awful person. You were actually the one following ME around on my previous comments, slandering me, saying I’m transphobic, when I in fact am not whatsoever.
I support any and all genders, and the fact that you can be born into the wrong physiological/biological sex.
There, disclaimer set. Now please stop slandering people or I will report you.
Oh and, go ahead and report me! I’m sure they’ll see my tickets faster if you include your baseless one. Have the day you deserve. 🩵
If you keep slandering me about being transphobic, I will.
You have yet to show me how I’m a transphobe. I will happily apologize and try to explain what I really meant if something I said could be interpreted as such. Please, show me the errors of my ways. I’m here for it.
The woman whose job it was to show you things didn’t do the job correctly, but it isn’t my job. If you want a woman to speak with about your actions it should be her- she is the only woman on the face of this earth that owes you anything. Ask her to show you the errors of your ways as she should have done very long ago.
You know everyone can see your moderation history right? Or maybe you didn’t- because there isn’t room inside your head with all that “honor”
It’s really ironic that you chose a thread about fascism to air your manic grievances. Stop harassing people, and seriously seek mental health services.
What do you even mean by this? Is moderation history where I edit comments? I edit a lot of my comments frequently immediately after posting because I type on my phone and autocorrect is a bitch.
Look, all the bullshit aside, if I said something that can be misconstrued as transphobic, I’ll own up to it and apologize, sincerely. But I challenge you to find anything I said that can be presented as trans- or homophobic, or any kind of -phobic. Please. I’m ready to apologize. But don’t slander without evidence.
You require something much stronger than proof. I’m not here for your benefit; as I’m sure you are used to hearing.
That moderation history was damning lol, blocked. Thanks for the heads up 👍
What’s damning? Please show me what I’ve done that can be offensive and I’ll do my best to better my ways. 👍
Honestly the best thing you can do. This person has serious issues and attaches themselves to anyone who “goes against” them.
I even literally made anti-bigotry, anti-transphobic comments the other day, and I stood my ground when someone came at me. Please, people, slander is not okay.
you’re on the same instance, .world, so if they are actually following you around you can report them to the admins for harassment…preeetty sure that’s against.world rules…
Nobody is following anyone around, I told you all I have her TAGGED. I saw the tag, made the comment. Very simple.
yeah… there’s a reason i didn’t respond to you.
the other used said you are following them around.
i honestly don’t really care one way or the other, which is why i simply pointed out the option or filing a report.
if you’re not following them around, there shouldn’t be anything to worry about, right?
Sure. But I have my honor. I will not have them slander me, calling me a stalker, and calling me a transphobe, neither of which are true.
In fact, she’s the one who went to my old comments and made comments that I’m a homophobe. That’s one of the worst things you could call me and I resent it completely. That’s why she’s so awful, that she can do something like that to someone. She is the stalker and slanderer. It just disappoints me so much that someone can be so unnecessarily evil.
But as you say, nothing to worry about, sure. 👍
how did you tag a user? I miss that feature from RES, haven’t looked into it for lemmy
I’m using Voyager on Android, it supports tagging people. I don’t know if that’s a feature of Lemmy itself, or the client. But it’s there so I use it. 😁
I hope that helps you!
She asked a reasonable question and here you are following her around calling her names.
She asked a reasonable question and here you are following her around calling her names.
- I didn’t say she didn’t ask a reasonable question. I said nothing regarding her question.
- Why do you think I am “following her around”? I told you, I have her tagged. Lemmy isn’t a big place. I had a very unpleasant encounter with this awful person and I usually tag people that are unprovokedly unpleasant. You know? I saw the tag, I made the comment. Why would I follow around someone who is unpleasant? Make it make sense.
This is supposed to be political humor? I don’t see what’s funny about this. It’s a question that a lot of rational US-ians have been grappling with for at least a year now and I can’t be the only one that’s kept up at night thinking of how powerless I am in this situation.
It’s a valid question for sure, but it doesn’t fit this community.
Yeah, OP should post this instead in [email protected]
It’s also a shit post (not a shitpost) because it asks the question and then provides no answer. “That’s what everyone’s asking.” Well yeah. Why? Why raise the question into a void?
We’ve got the same answer. He controls the military and the police are on his side. I’m not looking to die today.
But mostly importantly, Germany wanted it. Just like how America wanted Trump. Populations yearn for the pain, hatred, wars and generational bleeding. Sometimes the bloodletting needs to be on oneself.
This yearning… It’s human nature. Will always be. Until humans go extinct.
Right, except that the majority of Americans did not vote for him, did they. So America didn’t want it, did they.
The electoral MAJORITY did vote for him. 77M vs 75M for Harris. Those who chose to stay home and not vote did their part too. This is how a democracy works. Staying home is a choice too in democratic elections. America did want it. They got it. Live with it.
it gets worst than that, some dint even know biden wasnt in the race, or they forgot, or they said “how this affects me now” from a persecuted group.
sorta of they did, the non-voters were pretty much ignorant, blissfully of the whole thing or they sat out, its as bad supporting trump. the gop always have an edge if less people vote, and thats what happened. besides the actual election interference that went on as well
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[Black and white image of Trump wearing a MAGA hat, low angle]
Ever wondered why the Germans didn’t do more to stop Hitler? That’s exactly what the rest of the world is asking about Americans and Trump.
While the effort is good, the post remains inaccessible. That’s why I write the complaint. Editing the post to remedy that should be easy. However, opening every inaccessible post to maybe find a detached, buried comment of unclear reliability demands inequitably more of the disabled user than everyone else, so it isn’t a remedy.
Time to organize
Does anyone have any recommends for socialist/communist theory text that relates to what’s happening with Trump and the US right now to study?
“rest of the world” should ask what their leaders are doing to stop Trump instead of hoping only for Americans to stop him. Keeping US in NATO, and saying nothing about Venezuela and Gaza/Iran, and submitting to absurd rationale for accepting tariffs that will reduce their own economic resilience is simply emboldening Trump’s abuse of them. It doesn’t matter if US manufacturing keeps declining, as long as the colonies tacitly agree with how evil they were to America all along, and how much they enslave their people to supporting what are always US wars, but now with the colonies suffering all the death and damage.
We collectively have the power to collapse the US. Not doing so, emboldens the US into unlimited oppressive power over us. No amount of slaps or harder slaps stops you from being a bitch.
No country wants to start a war, and any of your suggestions are the kinda thing which can start wars.
Either civil or multinational
Spain has refused the 5% of GDP for US weapons, war on Russia, and refused port access for Gaza/Iran support fleet. Some mean words from Trump, but no action. No civil discontent over the policy. There’s strong resistance to all budgets that attempt to accomodate austerity and military drafts for the new Napoleonic defeat. (France most clear example).
Not even denouncing Venezuela evil, similar to fake concern expressions over Gaza and Iran, is a new low in sycophancy and cowardice among the colonies. But, it wouldn’t cause an act of war. The UK, the most sycophantic of all colonies who made the most submissive trade deal in Europe, got rewarded with Musk coming to speak ordering whites to overthrow parliament or all be killed by immigrants. More demands this week (buy chlorinated chicken) from white house. Sycophancy doesn’t get rewarded.
While Trump makes fascist executive orders on his own, the colonies are all using regular democratic concensus for even worse laws against speech. All the while begging the US for more orders to follow from them.
Condemning US evil is not an act of war against them, nor likely to result in a declaration of war against the speaking nation. If you base your propaganda on a “rules based world order”, mentioning that rules apply to your master too, once in a while, would make the propaganda/value system more credible.
And you trust Trump to not overreact?
I don’t
Following along with a fascist is never a winning move. When you refuse to stand up for yourself you’ve already lost without them having to do a thing.
That’s absurd. The starting premise was that the Americans should do things, but they risk getting shot or arrested. Now you’re saying no other country can take substantive action… So Trump is unstoppable? … But nobody believes that.
So, even for those that are comfortable, any employer that has done proper risk control will have hired a service that alerts them to any criminal activity of its employees, including arrests at protests, and will fire arrested employees. Plus, we live in a prison state.
So would you risk your next 9 meals, freedom, plus the well-being of your dependants?
Plus like the other person said, he has the police on his side, and the military under his control.
There are ways, still. Not giving up yet!
Pretty sure a war is won because you endure the hardships, not because you avoid them. Just an fyi.
And what exactly does getting arrested and fired accomplish? As they said we’ve got our families and future to worry about. We can’t just throw our lives away for no effect. I’d gladly take on hardships if it got Trump out of office but nothing I can think of to do would even move the needle towards that goal. We need political leaders to step up and lead the way and none of them are doing it.
It’s impossible for me personally because roughly everyone I know falls into one of two camps
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they’re comfortable and their status quo isn’t challenged. They know where their next 9 meals are coming from, and aren’t at Risk of losing employment/residence/ability to feed themselves.
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living pay check to pay check, constant fear of not being able to make rent/bills/groceries.
You can’t organize group 1 because they have something to lose and aren’t personally affected. You can’t organize group 2 because they don’t have time, and something like getting arrested at a protest could cost their job/residence/next meal, even when the charges are dropped.
Maybe someone more intelligent and charismatic than me has a shot, but I don’t know how to tell group 1 to risk their safety and the safety of their families for others, or group 2 to risk homelessness, all relying on trust in others.
Listen friend, you aren’t alone. This situation is exactly why fascists are so successful. The people with something to lose are never the ones to start throwing stones. Fascism, depends on a subjugated class that the majority do not belong to.
Real change will require an incredibly risky challenge to authority. For it to work, that challenge will have to to come from someone who belongs to the privileged class. Luigi threw the first stone, and we love him.
What would the cultural reaction have been if the first person to assassinate a CEO was an ethnic minority?
Do you really think #2 isn’t something that every freedom fighter has dealt with? They don’t stop protesting because their lives are shit. They do it because of it.
Yeah but #2 doesn’t see itself as a unified group. Differences in ethnicity and culture which have been stoked into rift like divides by republicans, who have been doing so for decades, have driven #2 apart.
I’m sure you’ve seen the cookie pile meme with the rich man, the black man and the white man.
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This is a great time for me to tell you to study socialist/communist theory - to read, learn and study theory, go to https://redsails.org/. Seriously!
