Unwittingly had ‘sex’ with a child, realised it was a child, had ‘sex’ a second time.
And wrote a song about it. And then wrote it into his autobiography.
How this man apparently skated through the #MeToo movement unscathed is truly baffling.
“Molester” is putting it lightly.
He was about 20 years old at the time, a rock star signed to a label, and a hardcore drug addict. I’m not excusing the behavior, but I’m not sure what anyone was expecting. I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone in this time period in his situation that wasn’t a massive piece of shit.
Dude I was 20 a few years ago and also addicted to drugs. Never thought about raping a 14 year old though. I am not saying I am surprised by his behavior, but I am saying it is disgusting regardless of any circumstances.
lol 20years suddenly dont engage in sleeping with minor, just because they are drugs. the drugs likely disinibited his predilection towards minor. its like say a pedophile became that way because he wasnt loved by his parents, P45 is an example.
I think it has more to do with the tone with which he recalls the incident. There is no regret or acknowledgment of how inappropriate that was.
It’s weird, I was 20 years old once. I knew a lot of people who were 20 years old the same time I was 20 years old. None of them raped any children. Some of them were in bands, they didn’t rape any children. Some of them were addicted to drugs, they didn’t rape any children.
He did specify that he was also a rockstar and a drug addict. I don’t think their point was just the age
As someone who’s gone through a meth addiction, I’ve seen it warp people and make them capable of things they’d never do normally. And I do mean sexually. This has been a topic at every HIV clinic I’ve worked for, the counselors would have pretty typical straight guys who would turn into nympho gay bottoms once they got high. I don’t think it’s a latent sexuality thing, I think their circuits are just so blown out they turn into a different person entirely. I’ve not been addicted to heroin (yet!) but I have to assume there’s similar dissociation and personality changes from chronic use.
Writing about it later is gross as hell but 2004 was peak “gross fucking masculinity” time when this sort of shit was almost celebrated, so I can see him or the ghostwriter thinking it would be a brag of some sort.
Is he still doing it now that he’s sober? Is he contrite? These are things I would factor in, even if it was a pattern during his drug use. I haven’t followed RHCP in a very long time so IDK.
It was clearly fully consensual, it’s hyperbole to call it “rape” unless there was coercion. A girl willingly coming on to an older man and having sex with them is not the same as a girl being violently assaulted in a field, calling everything “rape” is spitting on actual rape victims.
14-year-olds can’t consent you fucking weirdo. That’s called rape.
Legally it depends on local laws. Morally it’s really up to debate, but there definitely are some 14-year-olds that are mature enough to consent.
No.
Found Anthony Kiedis’ Lemmy account
legally it depends on local laws.
Yeah nah. Romeo & Juliet laws don’t cover this because 14 and 20 is too far apart. And you can not legally consent if you’re under 18 in almost all developed countries. There is no legal debate for these countries.
There definitely are some 14-year-olds that are mature enough to consent.
Hard disagree. Some will say or act like they consent but at 14 your brain is not fully developed. They might find out how bad of a decision that was only 10 years later. Consent does not only mean verbal or physical agreement, but also to be absolutely sure someone has a full understanding of all actions and consequences, and at 14 you can not presume that. There’s a reason the age of consent is 18. Almost everyone has developed a grasp of these things at 18yo and above.
He is not a Jeffrey Epstein, but holy shit call it what it is.
Not defending the action, but age of consent is not 18 in all countries or states.
While technically correct, it’s worth pointing out that must places still have stachatory laws in there too. My state for instance has age of consent at 16 but if one of the participants is older than 18 the younger or their legal guardian can press charges.
This is because it’s unreasonable to expect dating 16 year olds are celibate and punishing them is dumb, however, by 18 you should know you don’t fuck kids in highschool and then it’s left up to the case by case to decide.
And you can not legally consent if you’re under 18 in almost all developed countries.
It’s odd how you’re not old enough to consent to sex (which is, you know, lending your body to somebody else) but you’re old enough to work for a company (which is, you know, lending your body to somebody else).
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/youthlabor/agerequirements
Age Requirements
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets wage, hours worked, and safety requirements for minors (individuals under age 18) working in jobs covered by the statute. The rules vary depending upon the particular age of the minor and the particular job involved. As a general rule, the FLSA sets 14 years old as the minimum age for employment, and limits the number of hours worked by minors under the age of 16.
The same age should apply to both, don’t you think?
Tell me you are from the USA without telling me you are from the USA.
Calling literally ALL of Europe “not developed” is… something. Age of consent in EU is around 15, and it is 14 in many countries including Germany (which has equivalent of Romeo & Juliet laws above the age of 21, but still 14 and 20 sleeping together would be 100% legal).
So, please look outside of your borders once in a while, it may change your perspective. :)
So much wrong with this…I encourage you to actually look up the laws you’re talking about before you start exploiting minors in Europe. For starters, the EU has no age of consent.
I’m literally from Europe lol
No there aren’t and no it isn’t you weird pedophile
He was 42 when he wrote the words pictured above
I fully support Romeo and Juliet laws to not punish horny teenagers for being horny teenagers, but a 6 year difference at 14 years old is completely out of any reasonable scope to make an exception. Doubly so when the guy was so nonchalant about it 20 years later.
Yes!!! The biggest red flag is not that it happened, it’s his tone of recalling these events.
Hmmm… Michael Bay might have an opinion about that…
Oh, and besides that, I’m only fourteen
So we had sex one more time
Yeah at first it was him having sex unknowingly with a 14-yo. But dude had sex with her again after learning she was 14 and wrote a song about it. Wtf
You don’t unknowingly have sex with a 14yo. I don’t think I’ve met any that could pass for an adult. You have to be at least complacent with having sex with minors for that to happen and you not at least consider that they’re too young.
Yo I got hit on by a granny…
I was a doorman at a nightclub in the UK in the 90s. Believe me, there are young teens that can totally pass for adults. You’d be blind to think otherwise. We had to ID almost everyone. Conversely there were many 18 year olds that looked like literal children.
I’ve known a bunch of 14-yos who manages to get into bars and to buy alcohol even from state alcohol stores where they’re really strict because people thought they were (at least) 18-yo. A 14-yo managing to get people to think they are 18 (or whatever the age of consent was there at the time) isn’t the hard to believe thing about this story imo, but with the situation described here, the scrutiny over someone’s age might’ve not been all that thorough.
Having sex with her again and writing a song about it after knowing she is 14 though, what the fuck
Yeh I know twenty something year old women who can still look like they are 15 years old if they dress and do their hair and makeup like a 15 year old. Guess the reverse is also true.
While I’m a guy so the rules ain’t quite the same but when I was 14 I could easily grab scratchers since I had a full stache a patchy but pretty far along beard. I looked like a baby faced 18 or 19 year old when in reality I hit puberty right fucking early at 8.
Seems pretty damn consensual to me. Pretty weird you’d want to do that as a grown man, but whatever, if they were both fine with it I don’t care.
So you’re a pedophile.
I mena yeah she seemed consenting but it’s still illegal as fuck and you should definitely know better at 23, especially after she’s told you she’s 14. Having sex again after knowing and making a song about it and writing about it in your autobiography is both fucked up and just bizarre.
The issue is that it needs to be informed consent, rather than just “they said yes”… or even worse, “they didn’t say no”. I feel like I need a shower just typing that.
In this instance, the girl may have seemed like a willing participant - but anyone “consenting” when they’re below 16 (or whatever your local jurisdiction’s legal age is) needs to be taken with a truckful of salt, and in most cases is entirely inadmissable as a legal defence. I’m all for granting young adults the opportunity to make most decisions for themselves - but there are certain grey areas that their age renders them vulnerable to coercion or exploitation, sexual interactions being one of them.
There are of course very narrow exceptions - most notably the Romeo and Juliet laws, but it’s generally accepted that if one party is below the age of consent while the other isn’t, then the consent is not informed and therefore not valid.
It doesn’t have to be age-based either. It can be in environments where there is a sufficient difference in power dynamic (big difference in levels of seniority in the workplace; persons with learning disabilities or additional needs; or those with dependency issues) where consent is not informed and is the subject of coercion rather than genuine consent.
Adding to this, consent also depends on what you are consenting to and the risks that it entails. It’s one thing for a teenager to decide to do a low risk activity, but sex carries many risks such as pregnancy, STDs, and emotional distress from a poorly defined boundary being crossed. An adult can make an educated decision that understands these risks but a teenager is not equipped to do so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescence
There is a meaningful difference between these stages of life, and conflating the two to call someone a child molester weakens credibility and minimizes actual child molestation. I don’t fully understand this extreme desire to redefine “child” as “anyone under 18” but it doesn’t really seem like the goal is protecting children.
I remember being a teenager, and I remember being a child, and the two were quite a bit different when it came to sexuality. If you want to equate the sexual abuse of an actual child with consensual teenage sex, ask yourself: which of these would you choose if you had to pick one?
Officer, this one right here.
Jesus Christ buddy… Whatever is happening in your life, reevaluate some shit.
which of these would you choose if you had to pick one?
Neither. What kind of creep are you putting me in this situation?
It’s a hypothetical question to help determine an ethical distinction. Don’t worry, it’s not real. You don’t actually have to choose or even participate.
I don’t fully understand this extreme desire to redefine “child” as “anyone under 18” but it doesn’t really seem like the goal is protecting children.
the goal is to take away self-determination laws from teenagers so their parents/church/wannabe representative can control them better.
it actually starts to make a whole lot of sense once you realize these laws are literally targeted to control people. if you can’t meet people because you can’t go out alone because you need a fucking car to drive anywhere, and if you can’t be in romantic relationships with other people who might show you other ways of seeing the world, you’re essentially making sure that your child grows up in a controlled, christian, or whatever, neighborhood. it’s to keep the “dangerous” ideologies (such as anarchism) away from teenagers, because otherwise they could learn to see the world differently and might start questioning the authorities who always told them what to think, do and want.
consensual teenage sex
Teenagers cannot consent to sex with adults. Especially not rich and famous adults with careers they idolize. It is not a matter of what I would prefer, this is unacceptable, period, end of story. What he did was rape not sex. This person was not capable of informed consent with him.
There’s literally a thing called the age of consent. It’s usually 18 or 16. You can go to war and kill at 18, but you’re not allowed to have sex with an ‘adult’?
Sounds puritanical AF.
Obviously if the teenagers are below the age of consent then that’s illegal.
What he did was statutory rape, which is legally and ethically distinct from rape and child molestation.
I just think the distinction matters, and that the latter are clearly much worse.
Like on Reddit, distinction on this topic is seen as some sort of peadophilic collaboration by these weirdly puritanical White Knights who believe that nobody has sex until they’re 21.
Of course having sex with a 14 year old is wrong, nobody should be claiming otherwise. But those that get sanctimonious because handsome A-list celebs in their 40s are having sex with women in their 20s are clearly projecting something else.
Nono, we believe that nobody should be having sex with minors as an adult. Very, very, different from your framing.
16 & 16? Fine 18 & 30? Weird, I’m gonna judge you, but totally legal. 14 & 24? Fucking disgusting, a crime, and you should never see the light of day for the rest of your life.
The most outspoken critics of large age gaps and people wanting to fuck teenage kids, that I’ve met, have been BDSM kinksters. Quite literally the opposite of puritanical white knights. It makes sense too, because power imbalance, consent, boundaries, are all heavily discussed in those groups.
Its only distinction is that it is a worse version of both those things.
Teenagers cannot consent to sex with adults.
according to what proof?
That book is written like my fourth grade English assignment. (I’m German)
Absolutely! I hear people saying about how good this autobiography is.  But I don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. It’s written in such a flat tone, it sounds like he was bored himself while writing it. 
Sometimes it’s not the quality of the text, but the events and the revealings making these books “so good” for many people.
I get it. And I think that’s what it was for people. But I still don’t fully “get” it because it was like any other rock stars autobiography: debauchery, sex, drug use. I guess people like reading about those.
Who ghost wrote that book?
A German 4th grader.
He was about 22 at the time. I think it’s deemed okay depending on how famous you are. /S
Lori Maddox and all of her buddies were having sex with half of the bands from the 1970’s (there was no law back then I believe) Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, the rolling stones and so on. They were only 13. All written about I believe, some have since been redacted.
But by the time Kiedis was writing songs about having sex with school kids, and by the time he was having sex with school kids, I think it was illegal.
Not that the legality would necessarily be an excuse, but I was curious too so I checked. Kiedis is getting pretty old and has been around awhile, but it would have been illegal in Louisiana throughout his entire lifetime.
I remember reading about Led Zeppelin when I was getting into them, I must have been about 14 or 15. I didn’t really understand why but that stuff made me uncomfortable, even if I was at an age where I thought of myself (and others my age) as fully understanding adults. I definitely knew it was wrong at the time but I didn’t really understand why, not at that age. Didn’t know about Bowie, that sucks. Crazy how that could be known about someone and it’s not even the first or second concern, it’s a yucky little quirk of history that we ignore.
Even taking a step back, putting the revulsion in a box for a second to take a holistic look at the situation: the way it was written about as normal, and casually known, and practically glorified in the case that OP is referring to, and all of that… I don’t know. Good old days my ass
It sometimes feels like one of the few good constants is how child abuse is considered a grave crime in pretty much every society, but I still feel like there’s a disgusting undercurrent of acceptance for older men leering at and being creepy with young women in particular. I don’t know
EDIT: a quick trip to Wikipedia is showing me a very different tone of writing than I remember. That’s good, but that’s the bare minimum
Somehow I doubt Bowie was having sex with young girls. I mean, not impossible, I guess, but it seems unlikely.
Bowie was bi, not gay.
It sometimes feels like one of the few good constants is how child abuse is considered a grave crime in pretty much every society,
with the exception of every major society in human history
in medieval and early modern-age europe, it was considered normal for wealthy landlords’ children to marry young, for example
- Isabella I of Castile, married at 18
- Ferdinand II of Aragon, married at 17
this might not sound like a lot, but the age of puberty has decreased by about 2 years since 1900 and probably more since the medieval age (i couldn’t find enough data to support this claim). Sources for example here and here
This means what was 16-18 back then would be 14-16 today, if you consider the age of marriage in relation to the age of puberty.
As a general rule, the wealthier the person (or their parents), the sooner they married. Median age of marriage for peasants was around 21-22 years, but for nobles it was more like 16-18. This would correspond to 14-16 today.
And don’t get me started on whatever they have going on in the islamic world.
this might not sound like a lot, but the age of puberty has decreased by about 2 years since 1900 and probably more since the medieval age
That’s a terrifying and incredible thing to learn. I wonder what the cause of this change is. When did it start and when will it end? Its a stat that raises so many fascinating population-scale questions!
i think it has to do with better food and medicine. at least the literature mentions these two reasons as the primary guesses. but nobody knows for sure.
now one could argue that nobles back then probably had good access to food, and the effect might not be as prevalent for them. but they still often caught bad infections as children that might have a significant delay for puberty. because medicine wasn’t as good back then, not even for nobles.
Its forgivable that a 20 year old might accidentally end up in this situation, not having realised that she was only 14 until she said so…
But you know what a normal person does when they realise they just accidentally had sex with someone underage?
They take them back home to their family and apologise profusely. They don’t have sex with them a second time round! That truly is some child predator behaviour right there.
Should have been a massive red flag when he found out she attends a catholic girls school… “Student at a catholic girls school” does not at all say “this is a fully grown adult woman” in any language. That didn’t give him any pause at all, so I’m not that surprised when a paragraph later he is explicitly told she is underage and his only real concern is getting caught by the chief of police father…
I mean those schools have 18 year olds and most classes will have at least one person who’s 19 when they graduate. A 20 year old starting a relationship with someone in those ages isn’t exactly alarming.
That’s not at all what happened here though.
Apologize profusely? I think I’d have had a heart attack and died right there and then on the spot. The word “horrified” doesn’t begin to describe it. And this ain’t even virtue signaling. I am literally just describing live what I’m feeling after having read your comment.
I would not have been able to right that wrong. I’d have been puking and fainting in the bathroom.
Edit: And yes, I’m taking “20” into consideration. When I went off to college a switch flipped in my head that said “I am an adult” and everyone younger than me is not. Some people seem to not have that switch. Kiedis defo doesn’t have it.
Edit 2: No, really, honestly, I swear I’m not one of those “He’s 40 and she’s 30?! What a pedophile” people. I mean all this. Not being overdramatic
Oh I get you. I never said I wouldn’t also be having a panic attack upon finding out what I’d accidentally just done either…
But I can with certainty tell you for damn sure that Kiedis’ reaction was the WRONG reaction to have.
Wasn´t he on heroin back in that day? Doesn´t excuse it of course, but don´t expect any mindful behaviour that respects the physical and psycological wellbeing of anyone around them from an addict.
Edit: Yeah nah, disregard that. I just read up on his bio on Wikipedia, it´s a pattern.
Well he was already doing drugs at 12 years old because his parents were drug dealers and that shit was just around him all the time.
his dad let anthony fuck his much older girlfriend when he was 12 as well
Daaaaamn
Okay, in that case his behavior is actually an improvement over theirs. Still not good by any means but damn, what the hell.
yeah Anthony Keidis had a pretty fucked up life, theres another story of a naked Cher sleeping in a bed with Anthony, also when he was around 12
scar tissue is well worth a read regardless of how you feel about the band and Keidis. its a harrowing tale of addiction
Ok, what? When you were 20, how many 14 year olds did you interact with?
I can count exactly 1. It was my (ex) sister in law.
In my work, plenty. And I can fairly confidently say that telling someone’s age by their looks isn’t always easy.
Which is to say that it isn’t an entirely unrealistic scenario, and could be forgiven if one actually tried to remedy the situation upon learning of their mistake, rather than going for a second turn (yuck)
Were you a popular musician at the time too?
the only thing that’s stopping you behaving like this is that you don’t have the opportunity?
A lot of people in this thread are self- reporting without realizing.
Pretty fucked up accusation. You might want to read the rest of the coversation I had.
Lol yep
???
why does it matter that Kiedis is a popular musician?
Because popular musicians meet a lot more people than your average person. Did you even read the preceding comment??
Ok, what? When you were 20, how many 14 year olds did you interact with?
I can count exactly 1. It was my (ex) sister in law.
Heaps, I played magic the gathering. Didn’t fuck any kids tho.
Heaps. I part timed as a bouncer/medic at a club when I was 21 and there were heaps of girls below 16/18 trying to get in. Actually one of the reasons I was hired was because I normally used to be fairly good at recognising these and their fake IDs and as the youngest member of the team at least some of them as younger sisters of my friends.
And nevertheless I had two occasions were it was a “close call”. Once I chatted with a girl who stayed till the end and she,well, was, pushing to go to my place - until she made a mistake (can’t remember what she said) and I asked her about her age again(I had before and of course she claimed to be 19). She was indeed 14. SHIT. That was literally one day after we had the cops raid the place for minors and if they would have found her inside it would have cost us 10k at least - or our licence. (In theory in my country age of consent would have allowed “it” between us. But no. Never ever ever.YUK) That was a close. (Imagine me always shitting a brick back then and still feeling nauseated today) But would have never ever suspected her to be younger than me actually.
Other case was a girl very agressively pushing her number onto me, I was busy, so I didn’t care, but tbh, she was pretty and looked definitly 18+x. Responded for a call for medical backup, we need an ambulance to respond. Nothing drastic,just someone overly intoxicated. …next thing I can here my colleague from the ambulance screaming at someone in front of the toilets. …It was the girls mother -she worked nights and her 15 year old daughter thought it was a good idea to go out with a friend-. Funny enough my shiftleader was mortified as they had texted pretty flirty before - she had definitly made it inside a few times. (I think she claimed to be a uni freshman,which are all above 18 in my country)
(And fuck,our national IDs were so easy fake back then. Luckily that’s 20 years ago)
I am fairly sure that I never had anything going with someone younger than 16 after I turned 17, but fuck… The first one was a really close call,the second one coud have been. I would have never ever suspected their age. I am so happy that the universe did not let that happen.
Anyway: Even if someone gets tricked: Why on earth would they go for another round.
PS: Funny enough it goes the otherway around as well: A female friend of mine looks,well, like she is barely 14. She once was my trainee paramedic and I got regularly stopped by cops for letting an alleged minor drive the ambulance. (She was 20 at that time). Nowadys she is over 40, has two kids, is a chief physician and tbh, still looks bloody young and it’s often a nightmare for her with some patients.
Well, mistakes were made, it’s regrettable but understandable.
Reads on
Oh for fucks sake!
Do you really think there are any “rock stars” that did NOT fucked a minor?
Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if rock stars in the 80s bragged about how many teen girls they fucked on tv. And then everyone watching would nod along and think “yes, of course. That is what rock stars do.”
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Yes, lots of them. Most adult men have no interest in sex with children regardless of the presence of consequences.
I am a woman. a lot of men don’t think 14 is children. You can hate me but I know mine and many other woman experiences in life and I’ll tell you most men woild 100% fuck a 15/16yo easy
I’m a man, and most women think it’s okay to have sex with underaged boys. Damn, looks like a stalemate.
The men shall decide which of your lived experiences are valid!
I can’t help but think these people are trying to downplay their sexual attraction to children by pretending every person they’ve oogled was definitely an adult.
Plus the amount of porn where the fantasy is about having sex with a teenager is endless.
Right? The barely legal thing is fucked up
You go from “a lot” to “most” as if they mean the same thing. They don’t.
Many enough to make someone feel it’s most, apparently. Which is an experience that shouldn’t be so readily dismissed.
Yes, of course your feelings are the most valid kind of data that exists. Good point.
How would you measure this? Set up an Gynoid that looks like a teenage girl and records all interaction with men?
If you have no data, and cannot measure it, what else is there but the lived experience of many people.
And even if you had data to prove it’s a small minority of men being creeps towards teenage girls, isn’t it still relevant how that is perceived by said teenagers as they grow up?
So to recap: Your claim is “all rock stars are child molesters” and your proof is “how dare you question that women have bad experiences with men!”
Most adult men are not rock stars though.
Every woman remembers the day they turned 18 and suddenly so many adult men started showing interest.
But 17 and 354 days, no
Gotta draw the line somewhere
Yup. It all starts at 18 not at 11/12.
I’ve talked to so many women who around the age of 14 started getting cat called and essentially mourn their childhood innocence from that moment on. It’s really sad.
14? Try 11/12.
I was 12. It stopped when I was slightly over 20.
Well glad you speak for every woman.
Someone has to do it. The comment was an obvious /s though. (And if so is yours, I’m sorry.)
How the fuck does that excuse anything?
Yes of course there are. What a monumentally stupid thing to say.
really? I think you live in a rainbow world. Guess yoi’re a man
God I hope there are
Even the first time… she was 14. Have you seen a 14 year old?
I mean they sure look different than 10 years ago. I’d probably have a problem currently between distinguishing 14 year old and 18 years old girl in a lot of cases, and cases like this is is why I am not interested really in dating anyone younger than like 23.
Also I went back to university at age of 29, and most people looked like kids to me at first, but I get used to it, and they all seem very smart, each of them in different way, so that’s a plus.
I also discovered this some days ago and was quite disappointed. One thing is committing the crime, but why would you “brag” about it years later in an autobiography?
Does anyone know if there can still be legal consequences for this?
Unfortunately, just being written in a book, even an autobiography, isn’t proof it is true.
Statutory rape is exempted from the statute of limitations in every US state. But either a direct accusor or an Attorney General needs to file a case.
It’s always the ones you most suspect
How you can you suspect the angel who wrote these lyrics? \s
Ba dang dang bang dong wank dinga dinga booga boog dang winga…
Someone who hates Mike Patton can only be a POS, so no surprise here
One more reason to hate Kiedis.
having sex with an underage girl twice is bad enough but the fact that he, as a famous person, wrote about it in a book because he knew there would be no reprecussions for him…
It’s very presidential and not really a problem in america.
Yea, I think that part is the worst. The fact that he still talks about it nonchalantly is gross.
He does not still talk about it. For years if it’s ever mentioned in interviews he prefers not to talk about it because he says he’s already said enough. He regrets he ever mentioned it in his autobiography.
Here’s the thing though: he did mention it in his autobiography, which was written years later after this event happened. And his tone was still nonchalant. So whether he “regrets” ever mentioning it or not, it still doesn’t change the way with which he wrote about it when he was already in his early 40s.
He regrets that he mentioned it?
Man, this again? Isn’t it bad enough that i really really regret ever confessing to raping an underaged girl?
I am sorry I confessed to a sex! Leave me alone!
*yeah, not yea or nay. It isn’t a vote.
He wrote that autobiography when the band was still in its prime, and about 20 years before the metoo movement. That part of the autobiography did raise some eyebrows but for the most part the world looked the other way. Just like everyone looked the other way when Steven Tyler, David Bowie, Jerry Lee Lewis etc all did similar & worse things with minors.
Wait what did David Bowie do?
Just after he died a famous groupie whose name I can’t recall claimed to have been involved in a threesome with Bowie when she was underage. IIRC the third party in the threesome who was another groupie also claimed the first groupie wasn’t there, so who knows.
I’d like to know too.
We demand the Bowie Files.
Probably one of the “baby groupies”, super ick, poor things
Unless the “victim” comes foward and reports him of rape its unlikely anything will happen.
I don’t know who she is or what her circumstances are but I was a teenage girl when Red Hot chili peppers were smoking hot in their prime and I would not have been mad then or now if they had made a muse of me when I was 14. Just sayin’!! 😉
Topic aside, the page break is comedy gold.
Without the cooperation of the victim, there’s likely little law enforcement can do about this. If she doesn’t want him prosecuted, that’s likely that.
She’s 14. I don’t know about back then, but these days, she wouldn’t have much to say about it if there’s corroborating evidence.
BTW, what’s the statute of limitations on statutory rape?
Depends on the State.
I’m not sure which tour this was, but they’ve only played two live shows in Baton Rouge, so the relevant state is either Kentucky or Louisiana. In Kentucky, there’s no statute of limitations on statutory rape, and in Louisiana the statute of limitations runs out 30 years after the victim’s 18th birthday, which would have been in like 2018
To my understanding, that is only true for civil offenses, not criminal ones. Rape is a criminal offense pretty much everywhere, so cooperation of the victim isn’t necessary to prosecute, especially with a confession on a silver platter like that.
They would need more evidence. He can claim the autobiography is a work of fiction designed to sell copies, and that the rape never actually happened.
Without corroborating evidence, the state can’t meet its burden of proof.
Yes, but law enforcement can absolutely do something about this. Whether it makes it through court is a different question. Clear cases like that go either way all the time.
Law enforcement can certainly investigate, sure. But we won’t hear about that investigation unless it turns up something that can make it through court.
Then why hasn’t he been prosecuted? I can’t imagine any DA giving up such an easy win.
Going after celebrities is bad PR. That is literally why they don’t go after these kinds of cases, turns out political authorities are also just shitty people that only care about covering their own asses.
Is it actually bad PR? I don’t get a visceral reaction to the thought of police arresting a celebrity. If people revel in celebrity tabloids, I can’t see them taking their side over the police.
