• Zozano@aussie.zone
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    22 days ago

    The hilarity of Trump sucking Clinton’s dick isn’t necessarily in the sexual orientation, it’s in the hypocrisy of the people who are least tolerant of homosexuality being Trumps biggest supporters.

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        22 days ago

        The guy in the meme is the Original Tribal Chief Joe “Roman Reigns” Anoa’i…The OTC.

        I really could have gone my whole life without knowing his political beliefs. I don’t like politics in my wrasslin’. But since he felt like he had to share and this is a political meme, that question came naturally to me.

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        22 days ago

        Occupational Therapy Centers. Sometimes fellaltio is theraputic. It’s not appropriate to shame someone for engaging in it. Unless it’s Trump. Then it’s hilarious.

  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
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    21 days ago

    In all honesty the absolute weirdest thing about the whole Trump and Clinton BJ thing is that it never crossed my mind that those two would ever do anything close to that…

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      21 days ago

      To be fair Mark Epstein said in a recent interview that “bubba” was NOT Clinton. Will that stop me from claiming that it is with my maga family members? Not in the slightest 😂

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        21 days ago

        But the emails also show that they knew how to get politicians to owe them favors. Pretending like Bubba is someone else so Trump owes him one is well within the behavior we’ve seen discussed in the files.

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          21 days ago

          Honestly to me it just sounded like a guy joke. Sorta like locker room talk. Could have been just making stuff up honestly.

  • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    22 days ago

    still homophobic tho, conservatives are just the wrong people to be calling it out (and if anything conservatives are the ideal target audience for the homophobic memes, since they are the ones most likely to be bothered by their Daddy being a closeted gay)

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      22 days ago

      Yeah if a women blew clinton people wouldn’t mene about it at all, it would barely even be a news story.

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      22 days ago

      Nobody i know are outraged that Trump is, at least, bisexual.

      We just find it really funny. Not because there is anything wrong with homosexuality, but because building your whole cult around bigotry when you are a minority, is kind of really fucking funny.

      And all the mental gymnastics that conservatives are running to defend this right now, is prime entertainment.

      Not every joke involving gays, are bashing at homosexuality.

      • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        22 days ago

        Not every joke involving gays, are bashing at homosexuality.

        I do think jokes where the entire joke is that Donald Trump sucks dick is intended to be funny because homosexuality is taboo and sucking dick is considered bad, not just to Trump, but to people in general.

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          21 days ago

          I’ve made plenty of those jokes by now, iæand i can tell you thats not the case for anyone i know 🤷‍♂️

          The joke is a cult leader sucking cock while his cult hates cocksuckers 😂

          But we don’t mention the cult in the jokes, because then the joke doesnt trigger them.

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            21 days ago

            to be blunt, I don’t believe you

            if you call someone a cocksucker, it’s obviously intended as an insult

            telling me actually you think sucking cock is totally fine and it’s actually just about the hypocrisy of the cocksucker is not believable - that’s not why these memes succeed, people are just enjoying labeling Donald Trump as a cocksucker in a pejorative way

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              21 days ago

              As a person who has sucked a cock or two, I appreciate your instinct to protect, but maybe this is an “I’m not comfortable making this joke, but they are allowed to” situation?

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                hm, I hear you - but I think that would have to be embedded in the context of the meme; it’s not like anyone knows you are a “cocksucker” (in a non-pejorative sense), let alone that you endorse sucking cock from the memes you share; the homophobic assumption that sucking cock is wrong and taboo is what makes the meme successful, and I don’t think anything changes from the fact that you don’t personally share that view and happen to be creating or sharing the meme

                basically the homophobia is in the audience that interprets and receives the meme, the meme succeeds because it plays on that homophobia, and so the meme is “homophobic” in that sense

                I have trouble imagining these memes being shared and being popular in the gay communities that I’m a part for that reason - the audience might find the implication that sucking cock is itself wrong as homophobic and uncomfortable, maybe a gay audience would recognize the hypocrisy and also understand the latent homophobia that makes the meme work, but I just don’t imagine it being as popular (and to be honest I’m not seeing it shared in those communities; nor would I personally feel comfortable sharing it in those communities)

                it should be clarified that when I point out the homophobia, it’s not meant as some attempt to cancel the memes (let alone to indicate we should protect Trump out of some kind of concern for him as a homosexual), instead I’m just trying to point out reactionary threads, the way misogyny and homophobia are common even in anti-Trump sentiment

                fuck Trump, obviously - but I’m not going to follow that up with “the cocksucker”

      • icelimit@lemmy.ml
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        22 days ago

        I actually half wish I was in some of these platforms where they congregate just to watch the drama.

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          21 days ago

          You made me curious so I attempted to visit /r/conservative and they block VPN users now. I guess I dodged a bullet.

              • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                21 days ago

                btw, they don’t successfully block all VPN users; using mullvad you can just reconnect until you’re on a VPN server that isn’t blocked (in case you still want to access Reddit with a VPN); it seems like they only block certain VPNs, and probably those servers are only getting blocked after users try to hide abuse or bot traffic behind the VPN and they get that server blocked that way

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                  21 days ago

                  Thanks. I assumed they didn’t block all of my servers (there are a lot) but didn’t want to visit reddit bad enough to hop all over the globe looking for an unblocked server.

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      21 days ago

      “I don’t find it funny because I’m homophobic”

      LOL I guess I should read the rest of your sentence before thinking I have the whole story.

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    22 days ago

    I called it the other day: This is the same crowd that has used “cocksucker” as an insult for at least as long as I’ve been alive, and now they’re going to turn on a dime – especially if this rumor ends up being true (or persistent).

    But also, there’s a vast difference between mocking the head of a party that is overwhelmingly anti-LGBTQ+ in this manner to point out their hypocrisy, versus making homophobic statements about gay men in general. This is no different from making fun of trump/JD/Rudy for the photos of them dressed in drag when the whole party is and has demonized drag queens and the art of drag.

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    22 days ago

    What the fuck happened again? Who gave who a bj and why’s it funny? I can’t keep up, man.

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        Nah that was just calling him a couch fucker because he’s a weird creep.

        This is based on an actual exchange that was probably a joke. There’s at least some potential of reality behind it.

        Honestly, Mark Epstein’s suspicious denial that Bubba is Bill makes the whole thing seem more likely, not less. It could very well have been the joke in the first place because as Trump’s pimps of choice they knew he swings both ways.

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      22 days ago

      It’s only homophobic if it comes from the Homo district, in Southern France.

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      21 days ago

      Also, to object to blowjob insinuations, but still say “fuck trump”… Like what the fuck do you think “fuck” means?

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        I do believe that would insinuate a desire to perform sodomy in a domineering fashion, over said person.

        Sodomy is of course inferred by the presumed gender of both individuals. There could of course be other penetrative sexual acts (as such is the strict connotation of the verb “fuck”, in this context), not necessarily sodomy, though barring other qualifiers, it is the default.

        To perform a penetrative sexual act, it is assumed that the person making the statement has a member capable of performing said act. This may be organic or prosthetic, and some may who have an organic member may choose to use a prosthetic, or elect a champion as part of the original phrasing (I.e. “fuck (subject) with a donkey dick”). What is important, however, is that the speaker has some capability of performing the penetrative sexual activity prior to making the statement, or, at a minimum, a concept of a plan.

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          Right. So is fucking someone a bad thing? A good thing? Or does it depend on whether the recipient wants to be fucked? If we’re using fuck as an insult, we’re implying that it’s bad, right? If not, then why is it different for sucking cock?

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    22 days ago

    Yeah, being gay isnt the issue. Being a massive prick that attacks LGBT people while doing LGBT things is the issue. The fun part is, you can now say the Trump is the very first LGBT President. In fact, I encourage everyone to celebrate him as the first LGBT president. Give him an LGBT lifetime achievement award for becoming the first LGBT president… He’ll have a fucking stroke lol.