The aggression is insane. Not even talking at the car.
The regular police would have a conversation and at least an argument before raising guns, and it would be a last resort of dragging someone out the car to the ground.
Yeah. Would’ve thought they are in an active warzone
Active class warfare zone
the libs didn’t really care when it was only the black ‘class’ did they?
I think I have noticed a lot of the SS Nazi thugs are rolling up in Jeep Waggoneers. Is this a thing?
Fascists should all see what Piazzale Loreto looks like upside down
Luis Carrero Blanco, the first Spanish Astronaut.
“The Department of Homeland Security released a statement claiming that Figueroa was at fault, saying “she crashed into an unmarked government vehicle and violently resisted arrest, injuring two officers.”
injuring two officers
No joke. That kick at 1:01 launched that nazi with such force it blew his face mark right off his nose, as he realized making eye contact with the camera three seconds later. I’m surprised he survived to see another day.
Remember, when a car suddenly cuts into your lane and hits your car, then several masked men pointing guns and wearing camouflage pour out, and then they violently drag you out of the car on to the floor and pin you down. Your duty is to say “Thank you for your service, please tread on me.”
If you don’t, the terrorists win.
Nazi America working hard on bringing the fourth Reich into reality.
The line I’ve seen repeatedly is that White America is getting to see how African Americans and Latino migrants have been living since The War On Crime started.
Every day, we get to see another Rodney King or George Floyd. Wave after wave of police acting with utter impunity, doing unspeakable violence, while liberal leadership throws up it’s hands or turns a blind eye.
FFS, this was in Chicago. Blatantly illegal, breaking a couple dozen state laws. The mayor, the governor, the CPD, the local prosecutors and sheriffs… where the fuck are they?
It’s honestly astounding, as somebody that lives on the left coast, how many arguments I’ve had with people up here about this.
I think that they know how BIPOC have been treated, and much like homelessness, they want to ignore it and pretend it can never happen to them. The lie that white privilege renders you unassailable, is going to get shattered. We’ll see how many of them rise to the occasion and how many bend the knee.
The lie that white privilege renders you unassailable
It’s not a lie. We’re just constricting the definition of whiteness. White people remain privileged. I’m a white guy in Houston, where a ton of the shit is going down, and I’ve never felt “safer”.
But folks who thought they were “white” enough in Pasadena are experiencing something very different.
We’ll see how many of them rise to the occasion and how many bend the knee.
Hard to rise to the occasion when there’s a boot on your neck. And in a place like Texas, it’s very hard to find someone to trust much less organize with.
I don’t begrudge folks who bend the knee to save their skin. Not when the alternative is to simply get added to the line of crucifixions.
Bro it’s gonna shatter. Lol
It’s not a lie. We’re just constricting the definition of whiteness.
The fact that the definition can constrict is what I’m talking about. It is a lie that white privilege renders you unassailable, because as we see, the system can decide you’re not white after all and haul you off anyways.
My family is mixed race, so I’m very cognizant that my skin tone will not save me if they decide I’m guilty by association. I’m privileged because I’m white enough to pass, but that evaporates as soon as people run a background check and my other name comes up.
The mayor, the governor, the CPD, the local prosecutors and sheriffs… where the fuck are they?
All holed up in their offices and wishing like hell it’ll be their turn to be able to do this sort of thing next.
It’s already here.
For real. Bringing? Brought.
Next step is finding out what these 4 guns per citizen is about.
At least 3 out of 4 of it’s on the Nazis side I fear.
That already happened. Stop pretending it’s in the future.
Fuck these cowardly pricks. 🖕FUCK ICE🖕
With a cactus dildo
Death awaits them all when the fascist regime inevitably collapses.
Don’t help just film
These are federal agents, immune from any and all consequences by our deeply corrupt government. Recording their incredibly illegal deeds is about the best you can do at this point.
What would you have done? By filming and posting it, they’ve mobilized millions of people, whereas helping would just get them both arrested.
Not to mention as we’ve seen with the Charlie Kirk bs they’ll use any violence whatsoever as justification for further escalation.
They are already going to be violent, they will just use whatever the latest pushback is as their reasoning. There’s no good faith argument or reasoning there anyway, it’s all a pure power grab. Even MAGA thinks this ICE gestapo force is going too far.
getting into fire fights with US citizens might be the only way to get this to actually end. Local officials will have no choice but to start taking direct action, and ICE will not want to start kidnapping random people if they think they will get shot at. Other than that, I don’t know what you think escalation would actually look like
The filming helps. The fuck would you do if you were there, Rambo?
Dude, the pigs are carrying military weapons, the person who filmed is very brave just for standing there at all, even more filming. I sure wouldn’t. At any moment that tiny nazi brain decides to start firing and it’s the end of our hero.
The Department of Homeland Security later released a statement claiming that Figueroa was at fault, saying “she crashed into an unmarked government vehicle and violently resisted arrest, injuring two officers.”
Figueroa was released the same day a few hours later without charges.
Get this evidence in front of Judge Ellis and start them contempt hearings.
They weren’t even looking for her? They just smashed into a random car then kidnapped the driver?
Yep
What the actual fuck are they doing? They caused that accident. I hope this woman sues the living shit out of them.
Im not so sure they would be found “at fault” by an insurer if im honest.
The damage appears to be on the front of her car, but on the side of theirs.
An insurer would likely find that while the van obviously shouldn’t have cut across, the hatchback is at fault.
On the first day with any instructor they will tell you to drive to the conditions. That means that if ICE is present, and kidnapping people, drive slowly enough that you can stop if they cut over into your lane.
That kind of damage would only occur in two ways…either they sideswiped her while changing lanes (which is exactly what the video shows them doing)…or she drove into them at an angle (which is not what the video shows).
Whether or not it was intentional, they cut her off. All she did was drive straight, in her own lane.
I’m happy to concede that I’m wrong about this.
When I was learning to drive my dad told me that if you have an accident, the insurer will assign fault to whomever has damage to the front of their vehicle.
I’ve done some very brief research and determined that I’ve been completely wrong about this for the last 26 years. Thanks for that dad.
Oh, man. I probably laughed a little too hard at this. Thanks for that, my friend. I’ll take all the humor I can get these days.
That is a general rule of thumb to go by, but it’s just that.
Whatever they want. This is what dictatorship looks like, zero accountability to the people. Y’all need to do something about it already or it will keep getting worse until nothing you do can stop it, even collectively. If you haven’t even done as much as talk with a friend about the state of things, I don’t want to hear, ‘But what can I do!?’. Go find people to figure that out with.
crash. it’s called a crash. there was nothing accidental about it.
Americans can not sue federal “agents” according to US legal precedent and current interpretations of Section 1983
Well, that needs to be amended. Yesterday.
It won’t be. If anything they’ll strip more rights away.
there are at least a couple of democrats that do keep raising an amendment!
Looks like vehicular assault to me. Not an accident.
When this is all over, these fascist goons will face justice for their actions. There are accounts of every single action, and the next United States Justice Department will not handle it lightly.
We fucked up by not finishing off the Confederacy in Reconstruction, but in the wise words of the honorable George W. Bush: “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me twi— you can’t get fooled again.”
When this is all over, these fascist goons will face justice for their actions
I wish I shared your optimism of the future…
I was wondering about this.
Suppose there was a fair election in 2 years (I know, I know) and suppose the dems won… would they dismantle ICE and prosecute these scum?
Not if they appoint Merrick Fucking Garland as AG,
Depends who wins the primaries.
G dubz deep cuts
How we yearn for Georgy boy over the current POTUS.
Back in myyyyy dayyyy our installed republican president was a hapless moron directed to give gaffe-filled speeches every day while his vice president was evil incarnate and they both got super rich starting wars and committed war crimes which they got out of by wrecking the global economy and that’s the way we liked it!
As crazy as it is to say, Cheney > Trump. Both are absolute terrible pieces of shit, but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. He was just a greedy, power hungry tyrant, whereas Trump is also incredibly dumb, narcissistic, and cruel.
at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms
I am calm. I am balanced. I don’t want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN’T!
Whoa Cheney is dead, neat.
Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there.
Satire has since died, which I mourn.
Cheney also just died, which I don’t.
Didn’t most Nazis also get off scot free or even get jobs in science or the government? Only 12 high profile ones didn’t. Of the 100,000 arrested for US trials, 2500 were identified ad “major war criminals”. 142 were convicted of a crime.
Not to mention US constant blocking of the prosecution of war criminals both within and outside.
Probably >99% of fascist goons will get off with zero consequences.
If I were this optimistic, I’d be the happiest motherfucker on earth.
Unless we show up and start fucking these people up, we’re just going to be commenting on these videos until that’s illegal and we get scared of that too.
Funny that you think the brownshirts will face any consequences. You mention Bush ironically, but he’s the living example: a war criminal who never faced any consequences from his actions.
never faced any consequences from his actions.
excuse me, he was almost assaulted with a shoe at a press conference. If that’s not consequences for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, I don’t know what is
Absolutely disgraceful. The regime’s FA period is coming to and end, and the FO is quickly approaching.
Actually i feel more like the American populace FA period has come to an and and the FO period has arrived.
This video demonstrates my point.
Yeah it’s going to get worse for sure, as in violence, but I see the internal cracks in the MAGA base, and the general populace is getting pissed off enough to wake up and do something.
If you see this and can say that any part of this video is ok…. You can go fuck yourself.
The part I think is ok are the people you see recording the videos. I see at least 2 in this video, plus the perspective we’re watching from makes 3.
We need to all publically record, and distribute every time this happens. We need the knowledge that IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING to be undeniable. I know people who think ICE would never do anything wrong. I think everyone here, and everyone who records this knows that ICE is just modern day american S.S.
I’m truely ashamed to be an american right now. But if I ever see this happening? I’m INSTANTLY recording. And I’ll post it EVERYWHERE.
I like the part of the video where multiple concerned members of the community are yelling at the fascists while recording.
Definitely one of the positives, but it shouldn’t even be happening. This video shouldn’t exist.
How is EVERYBODY but me able to hear audio? Every lemmy video is muted for me, and the option to unmute is greyed out…
The icon itself is grey, but it should be clickable.
Or it’s an issue / setting with your client.
Which client do you use?
Samsung internet
I meant Lemmy client, or do you just access it via the official lemmy.world interface?
Since when does news get geo-blocked? The article linked and the entire website give me a “This content is not available in your region”. Is this expected from Chicago Tribune?
It’s blocked in the EU, most likely because they don’t want to comply with GDPR.
Time to start shooting Nazis folks.
I get the enthusiasm, and that is absolutely the first instinct. But that also is exactly what ICE wants. That gives them grounds for escalation.
As bad as this video is, AND IT IS BAD, this woman was set free a few hours later. She’s alive, and still free.
If everyone starts shooting ICE, they won’t attempt to capture their subject. They’ll just engage every encounter guns blazing.
I’m not saying that ICE has never shot a target. I am saying I’ve never seen nor heard of ICE begining the encounter straight away by shooting. I don’t believe that is the norm for them, and I do think they’d love to jump out of their vehicle shooting. They would love to litter the streets in blood and corpses.
Until we actually officially start the second civil war, it’s best not to escalate. Just film them. Distribute the videos. Expose their identities. Expose their crimes to the world.
But don’t give them a reason to defend using murder as a first response.
They can escalate with or without that tho.
They have escalated without that.After their escalation folk can either do nothing/comply, peacefully protest, or riot.
Same with martial law. They can declare it if the riots are happening or not.
I don’t think you can rely on ‘what are they supposed to do & how they are supposed to do it’ if they aren’t & never have followed that logic/values.ICE will escalate things when they are ready (they are still recruiting), regardless of that the folk is doing.
The USA is also testing the chain of command in military too.
I don’t think directly engaging them as they’re active with full gear and automatic weapons is necessarily the best strategy.
I’m not saying that either, it’s that if one side has the strategy to escalate and the ability to control the narrative it doesn’t affect much if the other side (just living there) escalates or not. It effects their immediate lives ofc, just not the overall peace of things.
I reluctantly agree
Ice has already been shooting people I read two articles in the last week where they shot innocent US citizens. They just assaulted, threatened to murder then kidnapped this woman. I was under the impression that the second amendment was the USA’s whole thing. Does waiting until they send the tanks out makes any sense?
As tragic and horrible as this is, those guys look like 12 years olds playing cops and robbers. Their body language screams amateur.
I hope life fucks them hard and fast in the ass. Evil pricks.
I was thinking that too. The way the guy stands in front of the car with his legs spread wide like that, clearly an imitation of something he’s seen in movies or video games before. Fascinating how even these realities are now just reflections of our media
Exactly. No tactics or discipline. They look like they have no training. Muzzle sweeps, high tension and adrenaline.
It takes 4 full grown man-children (in full military surplus kit) with 6 guns between them to kidnap one ~130lb woman. And at a snails pace too. They have to realize how fucking stupid they look…
So. When they ram your car and jump out with guns. Without ID’ing themselves. Is running them over in self defense allowed?
Legally or morally?
Legally. Already know the answer to the other one.
