But that would cause the dame problem but in reverse. What do you do with all the Israelis who were born and raised there?
I am not defending Isreal. It’s just the reality of the situation. I hate what Isreal is doing. But it feels like people forget that hamas is just as horrible.
I don’t know why people like you can’t seem to comprehend the idea that the Israelis have been living in the region for thousands of years. Yes a lot of Israelis returned to Israel in 20th century, but it is their ancestral homeland (Jews were expelled from the region – you are aware that they were subject to forced expulsion, aren’t you?), and the fact of the matter is european migration to the area goes back to the 1500s. Those migrants didn’t steal their land and they didn’t just come uninvited.
And both sides have acted in a genocidal manner toward the other at this point. Many people would argue that Israel has even restrained itself. If you want to sit there and act as if Gazans wouldn’t kill every single jew in Israel given the opportunity you can go ahead and delude yourself, but they have already stated that they would and the rest of the middle east serves as extremely good evidence of the violently homogenized culture of the region.
You cannot just pick and choose the parts of history which serve your purpose.
My ancestral homeland is your house. I have paperwork to prove it. Please make the unit ready for resettlement ASAP or I’ll be forced to starve children. I know it’s a tough job but someone has to do it because that’s what my 20 minutes of skimming Wikipedia taught me.
im not using these land ties to justify genocide, only to show that your point, while i know its sarcastic, doesn’t really hold much weight. Jews were literally invited to the region by the ottomans.
A two state solution will not work, correct. That is why the world must come together and kick the genocidal Israelis out of the Palestinians land.
But that would cause the dame problem but in reverse. What do you do with all the Israelis who were born and raised there?
I am not defending Isreal. It’s just the reality of the situation. I hate what Isreal is doing. But it feels like people forget that hamas is just as horrible.
I don’t know why people like you can’t seem to comprehend the idea that the Israelis have been living in the region for thousands of years. Yes a lot of Israelis returned to Israel in 20th century, but it is their ancestral homeland (Jews were expelled from the region – you are aware that they were subject to forced expulsion, aren’t you?), and the fact of the matter is european migration to the area goes back to the 1500s. Those migrants didn’t steal their land and they didn’t just come uninvited.
And both sides have acted in a genocidal manner toward the other at this point. Many people would argue that Israel has even restrained itself. If you want to sit there and act as if Gazans wouldn’t kill every single jew in Israel given the opportunity you can go ahead and delude yourself, but they have already stated that they would and the rest of the middle east serves as extremely good evidence of the violently homogenized culture of the region.
You cannot just pick and choose the parts of history which serve your purpose.
My ancestral homeland is your house. I have paperwork to prove it. Please make the unit ready for resettlement ASAP or I’ll be forced to starve children. I know it’s a tough job but someone has to do it because that’s what my 20 minutes of skimming Wikipedia taught me.
I know we don’t like reddit here, but this post contains just a smidgin of my potential rebuttal.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/azhzx1/around_the_turn_of_the_16th_century_thousands_of/
Don’t be dense. There are no historical land ties that can justify this genocide.
im not using these land ties to justify genocide, only to show that your point, while i know its sarcastic, doesn’t really hold much weight. Jews were literally invited to the region by the ottomans.
Israelis and Palastinians are both descendants of the Canaanites that lived in the area back during the Bronze Age. None of that matters.
i am aware. its too bad other people here aren’t – or just, seemingly, refuse to acknowledge it.