where did i mention manifest destiny?

i am aware. its too bad other people here aren’t – or just, seemingly, refuse to acknowledge it.

im not using these land ties to justify genocide, only to show that your point, while i know its sarcastic, doesn’t really hold much weight. Jews were literally invited to the region by the ottomans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

I know we don’t like reddit here, but this post contains just a smidgin of my potential rebuttal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/azhzx1/around_the_turn_of_the_16th_century_thousands_of/

This is a very poor comparison. I think you already know that though.

Were the jews violently attacking the germans prior to the holocaust?

I don’t know why people like you can’t seem to comprehend the idea that the Israelis have been living in the region for thousands of years. Yes a lot of Israelis returned to Israel in 20th century, but it is their ancestral homeland (Jews were expelled from the region – you are aware that they were subject to forced expulsion, aren’t you?), and the fact of the matter is european migration to the area goes back to the 1500s. Those migrants didn’t steal their land and they didn’t just come uninvited.

And both sides have acted in a genocidal manner toward the other at this point. Many people would argue that Israel has even restrained itself. If you want to sit there and act as if Gazans wouldn’t kill every single jew in Israel given the opportunity you can go ahead and delude yourself, but they have already stated that they would and the rest of the middle east serves as extremely good evidence of the violently homogenized culture of the region.

You cannot just pick and choose the parts of history which serve your purpose.

Its not that difficult. In fact that state already exists.

i’m going to say something that i’m sure people are going to hate and i may be banned for saying it. buts its just an opinion based on decades and decades of history…

If Israel doesn’t finish this now, it is just going to happen again. Its painful to watch, but its the truth. Netanyahu is an ass, but he’s right. A two state solution is a fantasy pipe dream that will never ever work.

I armed up back in 2018. Not sure why anyone else wouldn’t have by now. Maybe just extreme naivete.

sounds like a good time

trump is already at war with them.

i stay home.

He didn’t actually have anything to apologize for…

I wonder if Rogan realizes that he’s part of the reason we’ve ended up here?

its not just christians that are disappointed TBH. I was really kinda hoping they were right this time…

I’ve ridden the subway in sf probably about 10 times, or so, total in my life and I’ve seen the cops called twice. I know on at least one occassion it was because a homeless person was basically just agitated and making people uncomfortable.

great. come and get me.

Pretty standard for disorderly passengers in the subway. Nothing really novel about this.