He was shot in the neck and is presumably dead, as a staggering loss of blood was reportedly observed.

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      Imagine being Steven Crowder today. Half the Internet is out there celebrating your death because one fat headed white conservative man who goes on college campuses saying “debate me!” is indistinguishable from another one.

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    Saw the video and ya… he won’t be walking that one off. Medical science has come a long way but that’s testing the limits.

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      I can’t find video since everything is flooded with news people talking about it and won’t show the actual footage. Got a link?

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        I saved it, not sure where to post without it getting taken down tho…

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          That wasn’t squirting. That was a gusher. I doubt he even knew what happened. His hands instantly clenched. Immediate access to the machine elves.

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            It’s too bad that he just suddenly appeared in hell(*) looking around like Confused Travolta. It would have been more just if his brain had had a minute or two to process that after spending his life promoting guns, he was killed by a gun.

            (* Yeah, hell doesn’t exist, but he thought it did)

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        The video is all over the internet. Up close, from far away. It’s snuff. CNN played it. It’s everywhere.

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    I’m all for gun ownership but you can do better than just accepting mass numbers of deaths.

    Make gun education a serious part of gun ownership. Guns shouldn’t be easily accessible to anyone regardless of training.

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      Americas entire culture around guns needs to change, not just a little bit more training and education.

      People who misuse guns don’t respect them or the power they yield. They views them as toys, and more often than not fuck around and find out.

      Teaching them how to lock a gun up and telling them it’s important won’t change behaviours until people start to respect guns and fear them. Not casually pose with them for Christmas cards with their grandbaby in the room.

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      Also American society needs serious unfucking at all levels. Conservatives are bonkers but the “gun deaths are due to mental health issues” argument has merit; healthy and well-adjusted people don’t grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people. Guns are a scapegoat so that politicians can avoid addressing the real issues.

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        I agree with you.

        “Guns don’t kill people, people do,” is broadly true.

        They sure make it easier though, which is why they shouldn’t be anywhere and everywhere.

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        healthy and well-adjusted people don’t grab the closest murder weapon and kill random people

        People are still fundamentally apes. People get angry, people get drunk or high, people are low on sleep. Well functioning societies realize that at times people are not healthy and well-adjusted and try to limit the damage that someone can do to themselves and others in those circumstances. The US isn’t the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed. What makes the US unique is that it makes tools for murdering people widely available to anybody who wants them.

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          The US isn’t the only country in the world where people have mental health crises, or have road rage, or get depressed

          Yes, but it’s one of the few first world countries who do almost nothing about it. Did you know mass shootings are on the rise in Europe too despite no relaxation of gun control laws? France is even talking about regulating knive sales due to knife-based crime. Not so coincidentally, this is happening in a time of social and economic uncertainty. Also, one reason I say it’s a mental health thing is that America has more knife-based violent crime than, say, Britain. This points to a deeper factor beyond gun laws leading to the amount of gun violence in America, because as it turns out violence in America is just insane across the board. All countries have people with mental health crises, but the absolute inadequacy of the response to those crises and the number of financial and social destabilizing factors making them more frequent and worse is uniquely American. I mean, with nonsense like tent cities being a common thing of course gun crime will be through the roof. This would explain why places like Norway, Austria and Serbia are near the bottom of homicide rating lists and the top of gun ownership lists at the same time.

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      Indeed. The USA is fairly unique in its gun culture - and violence. Far too casual. A .22 can kill a person, and there’s people driving kids to sports practice with 9mm and larger strapped to their bodies.

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      I don’t understand this line of thought

      Everyone agrees that guns should be harder to access. Everyone agrees that the U.S. is now fascist.

      Why the fuck would we cede control of our guns to a govt. that’s shown it’s incapable of doing anything but subjugating us? Seriously, why the fuck does that occur to any of you sharing this thought?

      It makes me think you’re controlled opposition, genuinely.

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        Op was talking about gun education being a part of gun ownership. They said nothing about giving up guns.

        There’s more to gun control than just taking everyone’s guns.

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        People have been asking for gun control far longer than trump has been in office. The current acting president won’t sway their opinions on that, but it might sway their opinions how extreme they want the control to be.

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    Possibly through the spinal cord. I’ve watched it a few times and its hard to tell. This whole thing has made me emotionless when these horrible people get their karma. I still feel for people that are clearly victims but find it impossible to see someone like him as a victim.

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      You’re DISGUSTING! SOMEONE was Murdered with a GUN! HAVE SOME RESPECT!

      We’re talking about Charlie Kirk and NOT the School Shootings right? I NEED to make sure I’m on the Right Topic!

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      The most respectful thing we can do is honor his beliefs:

      “I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.” - Charlie Kirk

      "“I think empathy is a made up New Age term that has done a lot of damage” - Charlie Kirk

      “Guns save lives” - Charlie Kirk

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    Is it odd that I am kinda stuck on the fact he was not shot in the head? Like all those years of people making his head huge and face small when they missed out on the guys neck.

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      It was clearly a lucky missed shot. Nobody with any training would aim at the neck intentionally. So, the shooter missed the target but still hit a vital spot. Could be they aimed at his head and didn’t account for the Earth’s gravity pulling the bullet down. Or maybe they aimed at his chest and didn’t account for his head’s gravity pulling the bullet up.

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        Yeah, It was a very damaging shot even still. Just seems off that the guy would get shot in the neck, somehow wrong that it was not in the head. But I think this is just my brain being weird about things.

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    My coworker showed me the video. Then proceeded to tell me that he’s been watching Kirk since last year and that it was probably a “transgender” that shot him. My coworker is Mexican. Also several other coworkers stated that they enjoy the things that he used to say.

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      I loved his debates. Not only was he always spot on, but left every single woke that tried to counter him stuttering like a circus seal, just like Ben Shapiro still does.

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      Yea this made the closet conservatives come out from under the woodwork. Instagram was awash with people posting his family photos that are otherwise outwardly apolitical.

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    This is what the first img that popped up when I searched “charlie kirk meme”