• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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        Lol! God, no. I think what we know, is just the tip of the iceberg with both of them.

        My comment was just poking fun at the fact that Trump has recently been pushing some pretty large (and seemingly random) numbers regarding how often Bill Clinton went to Epstein’s island. And as usual, every accusation amounts to a confession, with him.

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      No democrat would care if you strung bill clinton up next to the orange turd, not a single one.

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    Trump: Many people borrowed Epstein’s plane. That means nothing.

    ATS: Your personal jet landed there dozens of times.

    Trump: Uh… that was for business.

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        How about the time trump was asked what he and Ivanka had in common and she said ‘either real estate or golf’ then he said ‘well I was going to say sex’.

        Why is this not at the forefront of his quotes? There’s clear video of this. It’s been public knowledge for years, and is far creepier than any of their photos, parrots fucking notwithstanding.

        Ivanka made him promise not to date anyone younger than her when she was 16. That’s a totally normal thing for a teenager to ask of her father, right?

        Who cares about these photos, honestly. Lets spread the real shit.

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          Why?

          Might as well use his techniques against him.

          Let’s force them to deal with it.

          I like the truth too, but at this point, normal behavior is just not working.

          • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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            Because there plenty of other real shit we can point to without looking stupid when they point out Epstein’s island doesn’t even have an airstrip.

            I honestly think this meme is wagging the dog.

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              I can’t believe you have to state things like this. There’s enough bad things he has provably done that you could attack him until the day you die based on it.

              If we stoop to the level of spreading fake claims because it suits our narrative, we’re no better than Trump and his supporters.

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              You’re all up and down this post defending him, and we’ve tangibly seen him enacting actual fascism. And that’s not even touching that if he’s actually a paedo, that’s even worse.

              He’s terrible in every way possible.

              So – and I mean this sincerely – why are you defending him? Why not just move on to another Republican who doesn’t have this baggage? Why compromise yourself defending this specific guy?

              • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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                I am not defending Trump.

                I hate the asshole. All I want for Christmas is a good rifle and a clear line of sight.

                I am defending not making shit up because

                1. They wouldn’t believe it if it were true and,
                2. It provides a quick and provable dismissal of this and any other allegations and makes the true things less credible.

                If there are flight records to the nearest airport a 757 can land, I will accept them.

                But a random dude in a fake uniform with no citations helps Trump and I won’t have that.

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                  I haven’t seen anyone making things up in this thread, but I’ve seen you saying lots of things that defend trump and his compatriots.

                  Perhaps if that’s not how you mean to come across you might think before you post.

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            Reimforcing my sentiment that many of the people entrenched in social or political camps are all functionally the same person. They just happened to plant their flag in the camp they stumbled upon, but the morals and ideas of the camp mean little to them. At the end of the day, it isn’t about truth, conviction, or the public good, it’s about getting a win. Even if that means burning down trust, institutions, and integrity in the process.

            It’s easy to imagine it like half of the world’s population is clones of the same piece of shit. The acid test for knowing if you are one is through behaviour, since ideals are just low value variables at this point.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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      Seem questionable?

      Unless Trump was breaking a lot of rules and a couple laws of physics there’s no way a 757 could land at an island with no airstrip.

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        That’s kind of pedantic. Planes land at Cyril E. King Airport then ferry to the island.

        What do you think is the tourist attraction at St. Thomas that’s attracting all these rich people, over and over? Please tell me, I’ll bump St Thomas up on my bucket list.

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            Land at St Thomas, like I said.

            Golly gee wilikers, that must be an amazing tourist destination, considering how often billionaires’ jets landed there.

            For fucks sake, how do you think Epstein got there? Did he swim?

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                Have you heard of circumstantial evidence?

                Jesus, it’s like you have no idea how things work.

                If this was a random island, sure. But this isn’t a random island.

                You’re actually giving me a headache.

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      The fact that Snopes used “Trump said in January 2025 that he never visited Epstein’s island.” as evidence is what’s truly sus.

      Trump is one of the lieingest liars ever to lie. NO ONE should believe a word out of his mouth, much less a ‘fact checker’ website. Trump could finally admit hes a fascist child abuser and I would question it just because it came out of his mouth.

      You would likely get more truth out of Trump if you simply assumed he meant the exact opposite of everything he says.

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      Yeah screenshots of social media posts like this always put me on the Sus Bus.

      First the 10 years or more line. 10 years ago was 2015. Doubt even Trump would fly to fuck kids during a presidential campaign at 68 years old.

      Then there’s or more part. When did he look this up? Most people probably never heard of Epstein 10 years ago.

      • al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.comBanned
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        Don’t let your current limp dick get in the way of reality lots of 68 year olds fuck. What do you think he didn’t have time with all the golf? Lol

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    I don’t know if Trump actually flew there that many times, but I did hear about a number about in that range about bill gates, bill clinton and several other rich elites…Stephen Hawking went there for fuck’s sake.

    Pretty much every politician and rich person, famous or otherwise has been there multiple times

    and all of those people support KOSA and the online safety act. Because they want to protect children…I guess

    No, I’m not a trumper, I hate all politicians equally

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      I find it exceptionally improbable that Stephen Hawking went there to abuse children.

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        Why tho? You know that part of “It” that didn’t make it into the movie? Must’ve been on his mind at least.

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        Yes because intelligent people aren’t flawed. /S
        Next you will tell me you highly improbable priests molest boys and Bill Cosby was so positive on TV in the 80s he couldn’t have date raped.

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      It’s a real rectangle and squares situation. All of the people that flew to the island were some form of rich elites or intellectuals but not all the rich elites and intellectuals were sex criminals. We just know Some number of them were. A rather high number of them but not all.

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    He looks like Richard Riehle I was taken aback by seeing him with that description till i got to the end and realized it wasnt the same guy.

    This guy fun actor in lots of good shows and movies.

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    Aside from the snopes article putting serious doubt to this claim the timing wouldn’t work anyway.

    Epstein was in prison in 2019, it’s already 2025. If there were records kept for 10 years that show him going to that island that would be… Right during his presidency.

    However much I wish it was true:

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      Kind of figured it was bullshit. Especially since Trump’s relationship with Epstein kind of evaporated thereabouts of the early 2000s. Way more than 10 years. Now if we can get records from the mid to late 90s…

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    So 37 flights on his personal jet to pedophile island and nearly $1 Billion in payments to Epstein and other peddlers of pedophiles, countless women and men testifying under oath and somehow there is not enough proof for republicans?

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      If it was about Obama, that would be more than enough.

      Isn’t it wonderful when politics turn into tribalism where the only thing that matters is not being on the losing side—justice, liberty, and morals be damned?

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    There isn’t even an air strip on the island. Nobody landed any jet aircraft on it. Not Donald Trump, and not anyone else. Even Jeffrey Epstein didn’t land there. This guy doesn’t sound or look credible, and he couldn’t even get his lie strait. He’s wearing a Halloween costume.

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      Also, 4 bars on his shoulder would indicate he is/was a Captain. First Officers have 2 or 3 bars depending on experience.

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      According to the many reports on this, most guests flew to airstrip on the neighbouring island of St Thomas and were shuttled across by helicopter.

      It’s not out of the question that this is what he means, in the same way that “flying to Tokyo” usually means “flying to Narita and riding the shuttle into Tokyo”.

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        You really think that everyone who flew into the neighboring airport on St. Thomas all went to Epstein’s island? That’s like saying everyone who landed at Narita was actually travelling to the Sohkyu Country Club to play a round of golf.

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          I’d love anyone to tell me what’s so intriguing about St Thomas isle that’s attracting all of Epstein’s clients.

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              Yeah. And about that much live in my small town. But billionaires aren’t flocking here, either.

              Again, what’s the great attraction?

              I’m sure it’s a lovely place, but billionaire worth? Such that we could reasonably say billionaires are landing in Saint Thomas for its own purpose and not as a puddle-jump to Epstein’s island? If rich people started flying into the airport down the street from me, my town would be ecstatic, but we’d be curious why. We wouldn’t ask publicly, perhaps, but there’d be talk at the pubs.

              e: I have supplements to sell you.

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            • only island in USVI with airport
            • infrastructure for yachts
            • cruise ship hub
            • access to drugs
            • world-class beaches
            • deluxe rental estates
            • low taxes