That HR lady is totally breedable.
I’m usually quite a big fan of not having any prjunddices against people just because they are part of a certain group, gender etc. But please just shut the fuck up. Why do some people (often enough men) simply have to think with their dick and be disgusting human beings?
This planet works on chaos and sex.
It’s being gross about it and referring to her like livestock that bothers me. Breedable. Yuck.
Ready to be laid off, i can feel it coming considering the economy feels like its on stilts and my company scrapping the bottom of the barrel for projects to work on.
I don’t own anything and don’t have anybody.
Prepared for my NEET life.
If you don’t have anybody, it will be hard to be a neet. They are usually maintained by someone else (mostly parents)
Hope you will find a new job soon, It really sucks to find a job in these times 😞
Hmm, do we work at the same place? I can set you up with my old camping gear…
Sometimes you can even see it through the telephone
I had a meeting with plenty of important people tagged in, yet somehow I didn’t think much, if anything, of it. Like it’s just a meeting. Which it was. A meeting to inform me I was to be let go of the company. The possibility of that only occurred to me, I think, when prompted to think about it, on another meeting I had right before that one. That’s right, two meetings back to back. Yet I was clueless…
Accurate
Omg!
This sent a bad chill along my spine. PTSD.
I look at this smile and think “There is no HR in Ba Sing Se”
Sorry, too busy. Why can’t my manager fill you in on my current projects?
Haha I tried that one, because I was legitimately too swamped and management got very upset.
And then?
Oh I still got laid off, just later in the day.
I think it messed with their plans to lock me out of everything after the meeting. Must be logistically challenging lining up all those layoff meetings. 🙄
I got an invite for a meeting the next morning. I was like “they wouldn’t be that stupid, right?”. Well, they were. I had time to prepare something funny but I was disarmed by their stupidity.
Lmao in my case my computer just randomly restarted and asked for a security pin while I was busy working on something. I learned through our WhatsApp group that we got laid off lol.
Call with HR was when I already knew and nothing like this, I tried to get them to let me keep my $7k MacBook, no chance, literally everything was non negotiable so the call was absolutely pointless.
You should have kept the Mac, seriously. I often had no response trying to get laptops back from employees and was asking HR if we couldn’t get a form for new hires to sign regarding company equipment returns. Can’t remember the reasoning but HR told me the company is basically powerless to force the issue. In any case, the legal costs of suing you would quickly stack higher than $7K.
Yeah but they would hold back the severance pay until they received the laptop, they have done this before lol
Sure, I’ll gladly send the laptop back, you’ll just have to pay my hourly freelance rate for the labor involved. My rate is $240,000/hr, I’ll have it shipped out within 30 business days of payment. Alternatively, feel free to send a courier for pickup, my current address is 189 Beaker St, McMurdo Station, Antarctica.
Can’t they just file a police report suggesting you stole it? It’s the government’s job then and since the police barely have to investigate anything they are sure to actually do something. That’s a quick way to get a search warrant filed.
No, at least not in the US. It does not meet the legal definition of theft because (I believe) the property was initially acquired legally.
Otherwise, the police would be doing repo for things like delinquent car loans, which is dystopian corporate hellscape stuff.
Really?
Over here in Germany refusing to return items which someone contractually entrusted you is a misdemeanor. You would be treated like, say, a car repair shop who refuses to return your car you entrusted them to repair.
This differs from not paying debt, in that case you are legally in possession (not ownership though!) of whatever indebted item so the only recourse is a civil lawsuit. Besides, repossession can only be done through a court-ordered official:
Due to the state’s monopoly on the use of force, foreclosure may only be carried out by state foreclosure bodies, such as bailiffs. With the exception of permitted self-help, unauthorized foreclosure by the creditor is prohibited and is generally unlawful as vigilante justice.
This translation sucks btw, the term “foreclosure” is inaccurate because it refers to a court ordered official either seizing money/stocks/investments and/or physical valuables (valuables = items not required for a modest lifestyle such as jewelry, designer clothes, fancy non-IKEA furniture etc) or foreclosing your property. In case of specific debt like your car they would probably seize that instead unless you demonstrate you rely on it to get to work unless it could be substituted with a cheaper car which would then be provided in exchange.
Technically, yes criminal conversion is certainly a thing. If the laptop was expensive and you lived in a really low crime area where the cops were bored that might get pursued. My experience is that cops are practically more likely to say, absent a court order, to sue the person because it’s he-said she-said. It’s just too much effort for a potentially muddy situation.
You’d be surprised how often things that are theft/technically theft are not actually pursued by police in the US. The property crime clearance rate (resulting in at least arrest) is <15%.
Holding onto a rental car, on the other hand, is both expensive and cut-and-dried enough (contract states definitive end date ahead of time) to be a bad idea.
Solder another SSD in that bad boy
It would be nice to get some time in advance as notice. Like Trump get 4 years as he can’t be fired for some unknown reason even though he has and is still doing illegal things(tarifs without kongress approval etc.)…
Apparently being a child fucker isn’t a reason to get fired either
Never bought a Mac before, but what the hell are the specs in a $7k Macbook? I didn’t think they went over $3k.
Probably equivalent to about a $2k PC.
the laptop I’m working on right now cost me $1600 new in March and it is AWESOME. It replaced a Mac I bought in 2016 for $1800. My son uses PCs. He’s bought 4 in the same time period for about $1000-1200 each. Tell me whose computers are most expensive.
I’ve never priced one that high, but I’d suspect 16" screen and multi-TB nvme are the main culprits.
e: I was curious so I went and priced one. $7.3k for the 16" Pro with absolutely every bell and whistle. M4 Max 16/40 core, 128GB RAM, 8TB. It’s a beast but holy shit that price tag…
Yeah I had that one, absolute beast would never buy that for myself but would have loved to keep it
The big ones start at 3k.
I remember years and years ago when I still a regular employee I got into work one morning to find I no longer had access to any git repos. nothing. Well already knew the reason right then and there. I usually got in before everyone else so by the time people were coming into the office I was packing my stuff up to leave. People were all “where are you going?” I said “well I either got fired or laid off so I’m leaving, I’m not sitting through a bullshit meeting telling me why I was laid off”
wiped the laptop, wiped my externals, walked out, went and sat in a coffee shop to revise my resume. I got a call like an hour later asking me where I was and why I didn’t attend the meeting I was apparently schedule for. I replied with “you laid me off” few minutes later they email me back saying they’ll just send my ROE and last paycheque in the mail and then proceeded to explain why I and a few other devs were laid off. I didn’t bother reading the rest of it.
Then I decided to become a freelancer and never looked back. best decision I made.
What REALLY annoyed me about the whole thing was I thought I was good friends with the IT guy that set up access to everything, he was the one that revoked my access the night before and didn’t tell me. I was literally having a beer with him that night and he never said a word. out of everything that hurt the most. never spoke to him again.
To give benefit of the doubt maybe IT guy was told HR already let you know? Still sucks overall good choice in freelancing.
If IT guy thought they new, why not bring it up, offer consolation, maybe buy a few rounds…you know, human with empathy stuff?
no. I was talking about projects I was working on with him. he knew, he let me talk about them and said nothing.
Great story on how you handled it. And totally agree with you on the IT guy. What a douche that he just couldn’t give you a heads up.
the insulting thing out of it is I paid for his beers! he KNEW I was getting laid off and didn’t say “hey…maybe I should be paying for these” nope, gladly accepted my money. He tried to contact me after the fact and I just blocked him.
I was going to say that if the workplace is harsh and the IT guy would get fired for telling you, in his place I might not say anything and then immediately apologize. And apparently get blocked with no discussion.
But damn, letting you pay?
And it’s kind of irrelevant because you acted as if you already knew anyway, lol.
Some people dont have the guts for it.
She looks like a whitewashed Victoria Newman from the boys.
She looks like that lady always smiling in severance
You thinking of Sydney Cole Alexander?
Who, Anne Hathaway?
stooge /stoo͞j/
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The partner in a comedy team who feeds lines to the other comedian; a straight man.
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One who allows oneself to be used for another’s profit or advantage; a puppet.
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A stool pigeon.
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The only good thing about getting laid off is 1) you can at least collect unemployment 2) It’s easier to get another job because you weren’t simply fired
The best thing about getting laid off is still getting paid but not having to go to work.
Having responsibility that they don’t want you to abuse, and having a robust social net that requires employers to pay out an employee for a specified time (mine was 3 month) is amazing. (Go Belgium)
A full 3 months of vacation and plenty of time to look for other jobs.
What’s the difference between being laid off and being fired?
Lay offs aren’t related to your behaviour. Just that they cannot afford to keep you.
“they cannot afford to keep you.” Oh they almost certainly CAN. They just don’t want to.
You het fired for being bad at work, coming in late, etc.
You get laid off for “we don’t wanna pay you anymore.”
A lay off is generally broad in scope. A department might get laid off.
Firings are usually with cause and individual. You are fired for showing up late every day. You’re laid off when they simply don’t need you anymore.
This varies from state to state across the US and probably only applies here, but if you’re fired with cause, you generally don’t get unemployment benefits. If you’re laid off you might get a severance on top of unemployment.
Particularly shitty companies will always fire as many people as they can prior to a lay off. A big part of HR’s job at these organizations is making sure they have a case to fire as many people as possible at any given time. If you’ve ever worked in any call center in the US, you’ve been subjected to this, knowingly or not. They’ll document a handful of even the slightest grievances and make sure they have two in the chamber at any given time for any given employee, so if it looks like they need to get rid of a lot of people in the near future they’ll start digging for a third infraction.
You can’t collect unemployment if you get fired.
It depends. I was terminated under false pretenses, so I collected unemployment without any issues.
Yeah you can. You forfeit UI if you quit voluntarily. You’d only lose it if you got fired for doing something illegal, I think
Depends on the state but basically they have to prove it was for cause. You being late nonstop and being fired? No UE. You getting fired for “no call no show” when you ha e the phone records to prove you called in and you have no disciplinary record? You’ll get UE.
I got “fired” once in my life right before a big round of layoffs for the above reason. This was in TX so my UE got denied right out of the gate but when I appealed the company didn’t even bother showing up.
It was a pretty slam dunk case of them reaching and pulling shit out of their ass so I won the appeal.
Always appeal, especially in republican states where they default to siding with the companies.
Nope. There are firings with cause that have nothing to do with legality and it turns out that’s most of them by far. You can legally tell customers to lick your balls and you will probably get fired for misconduct and then you won’t get benefits. What constitutes “misconduct” varies by state but none of them require you to break the law.
That’s my understanding too.
The specifics will vary by jurisdiction. The state I live in, you can collect unemployment if fired but it has to be determined that you were not fired for noncompliance with workplace policies or illegal actions. For example if you stole from the cash register and got caught and fired you would not be able to collect unemployment. But if you were fired for poor performance you can receive unemployment
I learned this after a recent workplace decided to make up performance reasons to fire me. The state opened an investigation to determine if unemployment benefits should be paid out, which involved asking both myself and the previous employer about the stated reasons for the discharge, if any written or verbal warnings were given, etc. Hilariously my old employer dropped the entire line of reasoning and just said “it didn’t work out” when the investigator for the state spoke with them. I also then learned that the maximum unemployment benefit in my state is only $1200/month which won’t cover most folks rents so that’s practically useless!
Goddamn that’s low. At first I read that as $1200/week, which would be the highest in the nation.
I also got termed for no reason but my state maxes out at $875 per week, low considering the cost of living here.
Unemployment isn’t that easy to collect in a lot of states. My state’s unemployment system is essentially designed to dissuade people from collecting. Tons of red tape, rules, and conditions to wade through and if the stars are right you might start getting checks worth 2/3 the value of your original paycheck a month later.
