“Wir haben es nicht gewusst”
Why would anyone want to go to America atm?
seems like the people coming here have booked thier vacation/spots in advanced, on non-refundable trips. after DECember we are going to see the touristy spots are going to be devestated. LVegas is already seeing the effects, although they have been dying for a couple years already.
We’re very welcoming to sexual predators. Seems like the US is the Mecca for pedophiles and child traffickers lately.
… which is very odd to watch from an european perspective because the US used to be the epicenter of the moral panic of the 20th century
Americans have been flooded with lots of news.
Report is tend to based on verifiable facts, returned victims are inconvenient to verify.
Americans are simply new to this phenomenon and don’t know how to interpret/imagine. In a few generations, when trump dynasty is over, we will see documentaries about how this works systematically and what news have reported are just tip of the iceberg.
Remember the countries Trump called shitholes? That’s America for most sane Europeans. It’s a shithole counrty where you’ll be detained if you’ve got a meme of Jester D. Vance.
Every accusation is a conversation
More true everyday
When everybody talked about “shithole countries”, practically everybody outside the United States thought of one country that deserved that label (we all thought of the same one).
Not only afraid but pissed af of all this people actually voting for this piece of shit again.
People who watch fox news don’t know anything. Those of us who read the news from various sources are aware of what’s happening. Sadly, we’re a very small minority. What’s happening here is scary as hell, especially when you see so many people just acting like everything is normal, either because they actually think that or they just don’t know what else to do. I hope democracy will survive this, but the architects of its demise have been largely unimpeded so far. If I wasn’t American, there’s no fucking way I would come here with the fulvous fascist in power. Fuck trump. Fuck fascism.
I watch Telemundo with subtitles in my office when I want to have something on so I can try to learn a little more Spanish. Everyday they’re talking about ICE abducting people. It’s wild. And it’s local Telemundo. This shit is fucked.
I told someone from UK recently that yeah, America is cool, I think it’s worth seeing some of the national parks, but maybe wait until this administration is out because holy FUCK.
American here. We have almost 3.5 more years of this horse shit. If indeed cheetoh Hitler allows another election.
The numbers for your last election don’t make sense. You are not going to have a free election for a while.
Cheetoh Hitler doesn’t get to make that decision: you do.
You might have missed some news in the last few days…
I might have. What important thing did I miss?
can i borrow your rose colored glasses i need them got a feeling today is gonna be rough
Most places which fall to fascist regimes have a minimum of a few decades of bad times and thousands to millions of deaths.
Well the US has already thoroughly managed the millions dead, assuming you consider foreigners human.
Of course but I meant that it’s naive to expect it to go back to normal without substantial strife for the people who live here not downplaying any strife elsewhere.
The Republicans are going to fuck up badly enough that they doom themselves in fair elections leaving them openly cheating or otherwise ending actual democracy. This leads to resistance and upset which they meet with violence which cycles up until the whole thing explodes.
Of course but I meant that it’s naive to expect it to go back to normal without substantial strife for the people who live here not downplaying any strife elsewhere.
Well that “normal” people want to go back to already included massive strife for the rest of the world, so I’m not sympathetic to Americans.
otherwise ending actual democracy.
I find it hard to say that’s there’s much Democracy to end anyway.
This leads to resistance and upset which they meet with violence which cycles up until the whole thing explodes.
Yeah. That’s the Imperial Boomerang for you, I suppose.
Actual democracy means that if you don’t like how its going you have a right to switch leadership which in turn has a right to change the laws you don’t like something we absolutely have had.before just recently.
Did the millions of people America murdered overseas have a right to switch leadership? Or the absurd number of prisoners in US jails? Did people outside of swing states? People who want something other than neoliberalism? The people who were part of communist or black liberation parties that were destroyed by the US intelligence services and their leadership assassinated?
Obviously people in other countries don’t have a right to have a say in leadership here. All the people mentioned here have exactly the rights others have to vote. Obviously the relatively stupid beta democracy 0.03 we are stuck with doesn’t provide very good protection nor ability to achieve even reasonable ends in our rather fucky system but that wasn’t really the question.
The question is given large scale fuckery are we able to change gears. We were up until now it looks like we won’t be able to going forward which is a substantial difference.
Father in law, an engineer in his early sixties has been declining jobs his company had lined up for him in the US. He’s worried what being detained for a few days without his meds would do to him.
There is nothing worth coming here for. This place is not a place of honor… nothing valued is here.
We do not specifically hate the US. We fear for our safety and our families with MAGA, Trump, ICE and sadly now, the people we’re supposed to go to for help, the police. .I’ve been visiting the US every 3-4 years since 1994 when ‘fly drive’ holidays were affordable for people aged 21. Havent been since Trump was rising in popularity for election and we were having a chat about it in a restaurant in Orlando. We had not realised just how quickly strangers could get hostile so quickly. Currently, my social media and messages would likely be sufficient to have me disappeared. I am maybe typically of Europeans for my open view of Trump.
I know it’s a total trope, but it isn’t all Americans. Plenty of us are horrified by what’s happening too…
Americans are dumbasses.
Source: I live in the USA
Why are New Zealanders being detained?
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume its predominantly Maori being detained. Because they’re brown.
@Glitterbomb @Dogyote They’re detaining absolutely anybody they think might not be partial to the regime. They demand you make your social media pages public so they can see if you posted anything critical, they’ve sent people back for things as simple as memes. Plenty of the people they’re sending back are their exact racial preference because *the chance to exercise power* is the draw to this sort of work (though that often goes hand in hand with racism, when overreach must be more selective.)
Nope. White fuckeras everywhere. Same as the aussies
the US can’t even claim their usual racist shitfuckery, they’re just goddamn insane
Canadians too.
I’m guessing it’s because of their cool accents and off the wall sense of humor
Which part of ICE=lunatic racist clueless lawless unaccountable goon squad personal trump army did you miss?
Loads of people have been “detained” simply for having anything resembling anti trump sentiment on their personal electronic devices. People from many different countries.
Don’t travel to 'murica. It’s a fascist dictatorship and you do not have rights regardless of your skin color or where your passport is from.
I won’t even enter American air space for as long as I live. Also, I’m not ever going to buy American products unless I absolutely have to.
I’m trans, if I ever set a toe in that shithole I’m gonna get shot
Thank gods Europe is still free (at least for now)
They’re not shooting us YET but I’m sure it’s coming. I’m trans and HERE and scared as fuck.
yeah… :((((
take care of yourselves, this is gonna get rough. I’m sticking it out where I am until I have no choice but to get out, and seeing what we can do here to help people relocate to relative safety. I have tentative hope that some states will effectively resist this, at least for now, but no matter where you are it’s definitely time for a flight plan if you can make one.
we may have lost the battle for now, but there’s time still to bolster our communities and survive this. at least I have to hope so.
We see regular articles about the decline in business for American tourism in our part of Canada. There have been some major destination offers of 50-80% off offered to Canadians willing to return and stay at traditional places Canadians visit.
Fuck em. Death to murica.
