Not really a meme meme, but i felt like i had to :s

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        My God… All the “pro life” movements make so much more sense now! They actually don’t care about the women, they only want the children around. And worse off the children, the better for them!

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    So, why doesn’t some other payment processor step in to fill in the demand gap that the others are willfully abdicating?

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        The most likely to succeed at the moment, IMHO, would be a standardization of the various local payment systems in Europe, and there is already some movement in that direction in a growing group of countries, but it probably needs a push from the EU itself, similarly to how GSM was pushed as a standard for mobile communications by European governments as a group and ended up dominating globally (which is also why, for a period and until smartphones became a thing, European mobile telephony companies were wildly successful).

        I’m sorry for Americans who aren’t assholes (most here in Lemmy as far as I can tell) but the rest of the World does need to decouple from speed-running-to-Gilead America at all levels before it’s too late.

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    This is why some of us love crypto currencies so much despite the hate it gets from so many who claim there is no intrinsic value, it’s a scam, etc.

    Stay away from shit coins, no doubt, but the intrinsic value is that you can side step all of the bullshit and spend your money as you choose. No need to get permission first. It’s pricing to be a much better path forward, and payment processor inserting their own rules will only drive more acceptance of alternative payment methods.

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      I mean this is a false dichotomy. You can have a payment system that isn’t a shit show like crypto or a duopoly like Visa and Mastercard.

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    what even is the point of this cyberpunk dystopia if there won’t even be good porn to wank to?

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    This comic goes from 2020 to 1984, was this comic originally about idiots that compared wearing a face mask to wearing a jew star?

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      Worse, it was when Twitter banned Trump. This is just like when the Savage John asked to be exiled from the World State but the Controller forces him to engage in society to torture him.

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      There was a reddit sub where they take in unfunny comics (usually sexist) and then edit them to be funny. That’s how this actually became a meme.

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    Capitalism is actually the fix for this one for once. Just be the only payment processor that lets you buy anything legal. Demand for your services guarantees your success and the others die out.

    Let’s see if republicans still like capitalism now.

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      cryptocurrency is absolutely not going to be a substitute. what happens when your client’s money drops in value halfway through working on their commission?

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        Or what happens when governments ban crypo exchanges?

        I think the real answer is for us (the electorate) to start electing officials who aren’t puritanical twats. Way way harder to do tough.

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          Is this a serious question? Crypto is inherently decentralised and anonymous, from the base technology of the blockchain. The existence of crypto exchanges is directly opposed to its entire thesis as a digital currency, and only exist because people now treat it like a speculative asset and not like money.

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            Yes it’s decentralized and very hard to stop to parties from making a crypto transaction. But what about cases where you need to convert your crypto to say euros because the person/business you need to pay doesn’t accept crypto? Don’t you need an exchange for that?

            How easy/ widely accepted is it to pay for things using crypto (gas, rent, mortgage etc.)?

            The point I was trying to make is that if paying for stuff in crypto isn’t ubiquitous, it’s far less practical as a form of currency.

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    so hear me out.

    there’s an entire continent of payment processors out there that are not American.

    just use one of those.

    problem solved for a few years.

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      I’m not American and even I only know Visa and Mastercard. I know there used to be Maestro, but that was also owned by Mastercard. So what else is there that works globally?

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          I know some of those, but they don’t count.

          Most of those are still just going to use Visa and Mastercard underneath to process payments by card… Since those are mostly all Visa or Mastercard. There are exceptions but those are regional.

          There are a lot of “payment processors” but only 2 major card companies and that’s an issue.

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            I remember I was able to set up PayPal with direct bank account info. It’s not the most common scenario, and as long as they support Visa they’d be a target.

            If one of those companies decided to dedicate their company to free speech, they might go bank transactions only, and cut out the cards. Admittedly, there’s probably dozens of other hurdles I’m not even aware of there.

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              Yeah, but then you give PayPal a whole bunch of control over your bank account. IIRC they can just withdraw whenever they want?

              With card payments, there’s chargebacks for fraudulent transfers or if a vendor refuses a refund on fraudulent grounds. Those are just not a thing for bank transfers, at least not where I come from.

              Personally, most of the time I make a payment, it’s a bank transfer (they’re instant most of the time anyway between SEPA accounts and under 10k per transfer or whatever). But there are many benefits of a card payment. Others include: Collecting points (on credit cards in some countries, or something like a Revolut card on any plan other than the free one), purchase insurance, etc.

              People are always going to want to make card payments. We need better alternatives in the card company space, and standards to make sure every vendor can accept payments from every card type.

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    I was worried that this could make bitcoin seem useful but other people in here are explaining why bitcoin would still be an awful solution for this.

    So… are we going back to cash and checks? Will people need to mail envelopes of cash to furry vore artists?

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      Bitcoin wouldn’t be an awful solution to this, but there’s certainly a few better ones, such as

      • Visa and MC just being the opinionless payment providers they ought to be.
      • Regulation enforcing all payment providers to be similarly opinionless.
      • Ethereum, or another crypto more suited to many, fast payments
      • A layer-2 network over Bitcoin that can enable many fast payments, such as the lightning network.
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    I don’t get it. Will they also ban sex shops, adult cinemas and every other offline adult entertainment thing that exist?

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          Man. I remember being a kid and dreaming about a world where puritans got laughed out of existence. Then we had the “woke” era which shocked me sideways. I never dreamed that progressive thinking people would get hung up on regressive shit like policing language, it reminded me of being in church as a kid and hearing about those dreaded, awful, naughty words. But hey, at least their goals were well meaning and driven by empathy and concern for how other people have it in this world.

          Who did they piss off though? The fucking puritans. The very people who policed language all of my childhood. It turns out that nothing ever meant anything to them, they just wanted to control people. “Don’t tell me I can’t call a little person a midget! Bad words is fuck and shit! Not me making fun of people!!!” One group said, “if it’s fun it’s bad.” The other group said, “if anyone is hurt by it, it’s bad.”

          Now the puritans have gone full fascist because they felt like they were losing some culture war, so they want it all, and they scream loud enough to be heard.

          It’s like this tug of war that is just going to end with regular people who don’t raise hell when they get upset being shoved into the dirt by a loud crybaby minority of people.

          Before I had any grasp of history, I just assumed that people were always heading toward being more liberal in how they deal with the world.

          Nope, this is what we do. We have cycles of enlightenment and cycles of assholes responding to said enlightenment. Somebody always has to be morally superior, fighting some ugly enemy. If we ran out of reasons to fight tomorrow, we’d just argue over some other dumb shit.

          I’m drunk, so please don’t take me too seriously. I’ll probably wake up tomorrow and argue with myself about deleting this comment haha.

          Whatever happens, I really hope we have freedom at the end of the day. I don’t care what it costs. Maybe we aren’t meant to have it. Maybe our nature is just too ugly.