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    Ask a MAGAt to name a third world country. Instead of naming one they will name the country of the race they hate the most.

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      The “first world” was defined as US and their allies, 2nd world as USSR and their allies and 3rd world as no aligned. Now, US is run by Russian assets trying to replicate the third Reich. So I guess it should be second world instead?

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    Laura Loomer wrote on X that Mamdani “is from Africa. And you can tell in the way he eats. Disgusting.”

    If eating with your hands is disgusting, that’s a you problem because you apparently don’t wash them.

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    I have nothing to say about Brandon Gill except of course: try to make it look like an accident.

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    With the whole Glastonbury kerfuffle I’ve come to know more about this band called Bob Vylan. They have this lovely song, and it goes ike this:

    I heard you want your country back
    Shut the fuck up
    I heard you want your country back
    Uh-uh, you can't have that
    The only place I know
    Stolen right under my nose
    By ignorant scum
    Tryna lay claim to a land that ain't theirs anyway
    Wait - what did you say?
    I heard you want your country back
    Ha! Shut the fuck up
    I heard you want your country back
    Uh-uh, you can't have that
    I heard you want your country back
    Ha! Shut the fuck up
    I heard you want your country back
    Well shit, me too
    
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      This guy’s wife had to declare that she doesn’t eat with her hands because her husband is so racist.

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          She’s probably a racist piece of shit as well. Like her father is Dinesh D’Souza. She was raised by racist piece of shit. She still married to a racist after experiencing what a racist man looks like for her whole life. She probably thinks the racism and bigotry are good character qualities.

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      There is nothing wrong with living in a rural area or being a blue collar worker. The last sentence there is unnecessary.

      As someone who has been in both those demographics, this guy doesn’t represent me or the hardworking albeit sometimes simple people I grew up around.

      Please don’t use those words as a cudgel. It drives those undereducated and uninvolved people to identify more with this asshole than the progressives that have more in common with them beneath the surface.

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        “Go back to the third world”

        “Go back to your recheck farm”

        so only then it got offensive for you.

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          Only one of those things was said here on this site, in this thread, by a lemming that we can directly criticize.

          Shouldn’t the space we occupy and the people we are immediately surrounded with be put above performative anger at external topics?

          The politician said terrible things. Posting about it only goes so far.

          A lemming said bad things. We can affect that.

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          It’s clear I thought the first was offensive as well. Lemmy is all righteous anger and no purpose these days.

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        So you’re not even acknowledging the full fledged racism that is the topic in this little whataboutism speech you put together there?

        Nothing about the racism. Not one word to nod to the overarching story here.

        So which part of you missed that? The rural part?

        US is currently burning wheat farms cuz the world has shifted off of cheap wheat for something more stable.

        And the world knows which ones are the red states and are boycotting.

        So You have two choices: take it personally or acknowledge a consequence of ignoring racism and self interest replacing it with apathy and revenge. Just know this: Neither will make a difference in the long run. You’re still headed to the same destination. So even now with at this point you’re begging to ignore it. Noted.

        You’re just echoing the overall problem here by not even acknowledging the topic.

        It drives those undereducated and uninvolved people to identify more with this asshole

        Don’t even pretend you were ever an ally.

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          When Trump fucks up do you call him a fatty?

          When a black judge says women belong in the kitchen do you say “go back to the plantation!”

          A woman supports Trump. “Shut up cumdumpster, go make me sandwich if you want to be trad”

          That guy brought up something said HERE ON THIS WEBSITE. Someone HERE threw out redneck for living in the sticks. You’re fucking dumb if you think people need to write an essay on what they think of a topic before they can point out issues in discourse.

          See that? I don’t need to prove anything to call you out. I don’t need to call out racism to call out dumb posts.

          Before you reply, make sure to write an essay about why it’s ok to insult unrelated groups of people in order to hurt an individual. At least follow your own weird rules.

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          It’s clear this guy is an asshole. You are frothing trying to make an enemy of me but read with a little more care. I was always an ally and you are here trying to divide us. I feel like you didnt understand my comment so I’ll repeat with emphasis.

          It(Your use of redneck and hick as a pejorative.) drives those undereducated and uninvolved people(Single issue/peer sensative voters) to identify more with this asshole( The racist asshole that you somehow need me to clearly point out is both racist and an asshole.)

          Read carefully.

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          So your plan to have him removed from power is what?

          Genuine question since you don’t seem to want to win elections.

          Obviously he’s a cunt, so winning against him should be a cakewalk then.

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    Yeah if he doesn’t win the election after these attacks then the US has passed the point of no return. If even New Yorkers are too stupid to fall for this smear campaign then the US can’t be saved.

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    Remember the days when an openly racist comment like this would mean the end of your political career?

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      For Republicans it actually boosts their poll numbers.

      People want to be openly racist again. That’s what MAGA really means.

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        People want to be openly racist again. That’s what MAGA really means.

        And on this one should think a bit further and realize that any action causes a reaction.

        Maybe outright socially punishing racism shouldn’t have been the focus, and instead more effort should have been spent making sure more people know how, well, genetics work and also dream of stuff not involving racial difference, like future space travel or peaceful united humanity, that kind of thing. So that they’d make their own conclusions and have their own wishes.

        So - they are tired of “the establishment” not making anything better, and that means they are also tired of some rules of public decency associated with that establishment. One of the reasons MAGA activism looks so gross - they want it to look gross. Because “gross” is not like that picture of “respectable politics”, so already better.

        In general studying psychology of people who are your opponents is beneficial. And especially hard when you can’t make yourself respect them.

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          Nothing quite like logging onto lemmy and reading the most “if minorities were nicer then people would be less racist” victim blaming comment. No, there is no world in which minorities rolling over and gently teaching misguided racists gets them equal rights. We have a systemic issue in the US where the right has been defunding education and pushing vitriolic rhetoric for decades. Minorities should not need to prove their humanity at every turn just to stay alive, nevertheless participate in politics.

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            Right, chase all racists back under their rock for another generation. They are openly declaring they do not wish to participate in our society when they speak that way.

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              They can chase you, idiot! Racists and other kinds of such are always the majority of people actually caring to apply force.

              They are now assraping your country because they were chased under a rock for a generation. That’s the whole bloody reason!

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                What are you even saying? There is no statement in your statement.

                Were anti-lynching laws a mistake? Was assertive anti-racist education a mistake?

                It sounds to me as if you advocate capitulation.

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                  What are you even saying? There is no statement in your statement.

                  There is.

                  Were anti-lynching laws a mistake?

                  No.

                  Was assertive anti-racist education a mistake?

                  Some of it - may be.

                  It sounds to me as if you advocate capitulation.

                  No, I advocate not hurting the definitely noble cause by actions clearly harmful. Force-feeding people something is a sure way to make them resist.

                  Anti-racist education shouldn’t be busy with throwing something people don’t believe into their faces. That absolutely never works, and the reason some other people want to do that is to assert dominance. They don’t have dominance to assert, they are bitches.

                  Knowledge of genetics (school biology level) is by itself a lot of what’s needed to discard racism as an approach.

                  Knowledge of history, economics and why social mobility matters are by themselves a lot of what’s needed to discard segregation as an approach.

                  Empathy too. Mark Twain and Harriet Beecher Stowe are in your school curriculum, are they not?

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            Right? I can’t believe this person seriously responded to my comment with that bullshit. And people are upvoting him.

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                Loving how every reply is being met with a “you can’t read!” instead of explaining wherever you believe the disconnect may be. It’s not you that’s wrong, it’s every person who’s replying to your comment that “doesn’t know how to read”

                If only they knew how to read you could save yourself so much exasperation.

                Seriously though, spell it out for us dunces in the back. What is everyone missing here?

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                  instead of explaining wherever you believe the disconnect may be

                  I’ve literally said that. People thinking the reason for racists raising their heads is because they are not forced sufficiently harshly to thing and talk the right way - these people are complete idiots, or fixing the actual problem is not what they really want from the subject.

                  It’s not you that’s wrong, it’s every person who’s replying to your comment that “doesn’t know how to read”

                  This is incorrect, I’ve met some capable.

                  Seriously though, spell it out for us dunces in the back. What is everyone missing here?

                  You bunch of jerks are not “everyone”. See my answer to the first quote.

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            Why did you type all that instead of actually reading my comment?

            I mean, this is the best kind of illustration I could get for education allowing people to make right decisions and against pressure to behave.

            You clearly lack said education and apparently think you can apply pressure.

            Nothing I said has anything to do with minorities.

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              I did read your comment, that is why I responded the way I did. If you can’t link that minorities are the ones affected by racism, I don’t think that you should be commenting on racial politics in the US.

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                You don’t seem to be able to separate your own logic from the context of my conclusions, implicitly assuming either my context is the same, or it’s my fault if it’s not.

                In other words, you are unprepared for any intelligent discussion, which your first reply shows well enough.

                So much for who should be opening their mouth or touching their keyboard on whichever subject.

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          You lost me at “not socially punishing racism”.

          Sorry but GTFOH with your racism apologism.

          Republicans are also cutting education so fat chance getting these people educated also.

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            And that’s why you deserve whatever you get, because you are not even capable of properly reading a thought wiser than your whole fucking life, without even any pressure being put on you.

            I said that if you punish people, they don’t go all “sorry uncle, I won’t do that again”, they go all “fuck you motherfucker, I’m getting a gun”. Is that clear?

            So punishing anyone anywhere is a bad idea by default, there are very specific cases when there’s no better solution. Mostly when the other side can only be stopped by force.

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              Have you considered that your perspective on the matter could be skewed by your own inability to take critique maturely? Most adults are able self-reflect and grow as people from interactions with others of differing perspectives. It’s only a small percentage who react violently, and frankly, they are bullies who should not be catered to.

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                Have you considered that your own level of discussion might not be worth holding emotions inside wasting effort?

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    Republican Representative Brandon Gill has told New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani to “go back to the Third World” in response to a video of him eating with his hands.

    I guess this asshole has never eaten a burger, chicken, hot dog etc. Fucking racist piece of shit.

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      In Russia it was impolite, actually, to eat chicken not with your hands. Can’t say why, maybe it’s the possibility of bones splitting and flying away, and maybe it’s that some of the meat remains on the bones, so some visible food gets thrown out. As a kid I would sometimes get looks (making my hands oiled and dirty I don’t like, being autistic and just because it’s inconvenient).

      In any case I’m not sure someone’s eating habits affect their politics, unless demonstrating lack of basic hygiene or involving cannibalism.