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      Canada is just calling the US’s bluff, because it’s not actually about the DST. Now Canada has proof they’re negotiating in good faith with an admin that couldn’t care less about honouring deals.

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        lol like we needed proof trumpeisall bad faith and ignorance… we are literally re negotiating the very trade aggreement trump signed 5 years ago and unilaterally tore

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    Never ever ever attempt to appease trump.

    It will not work. He will never admit when he is wrong

    And he is totally untrustworthy and will NOT keep his side of any deal

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    FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

    Stop bending! Stop caving! Stop acquiescing to the fucking deranged dictator baboon running the shit show down south!

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      Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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    Disturbing, as this was a significant revenue raiser that could help with those disenfranchised through tariffs, or fund the absurd destruction of Canada through 200% military spending increase. Continued US military alliance signals further capitulation, but just as attack on Iran was apparent end of war through victory declaration, there may be a quick return to status quo. OTOH, complete subjugation may be more likely.

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    Listen, Canadians, you don’t need those tariffs-shmariffs. Just stop buying US shit. That’s it. No matter if that is alcohol or software. Stop buying it. And tariffs become just a stupid number for stupid Trump to drool upon.

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      Just stop buying US shit.

      Those of us who give a damn are already doing that as much as possible.

      Unfortunately the 1000 pound gorilla that is the USA had taken over some parts of our economy to the point where there is no way to avoid them completely.

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      Buying stuff from the US isn’t affected by US tariffs!?

      Tariffs would be when you sell things to the US, and even then you’re not the one paying them, it’s just the US government charging its citizens extra to buy things

      I know it’s tough to wrap one’s head around an idea so fervently championed yet obviously self-defeating XD

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        No, the concept is trivial. I just point out that the coefficient isn’t important if the value is zero. And Canadians can make it zero at least at one direction.

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    I’ll never vote for a Liberal candidate again for as long as I live, regardless of ABC. I don’t give a fuck what the threat is. They’re effectively Democrats. Fundamentally worthless from soul to spine.

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      That’s what I said after they fucked us on electoral reform. Being a principled voter is the correct pragmatic decision in the long term.

      ABC results in US two-party system.

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          Maybe in theory, but liberals never reciprocate. We gave up multiple incumbent ridings to the Conservatives because people voted for Carney instead of the incumbent NDP, who were IMO better candidates.

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    Cowardly. Infuriating. Pathetic. 1 term Carney - fool does understand why he was elected. I’m so pissed. Boycott harder.

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        Last month, the U.S. and Britain announced a trade deal related to a range of products. But Britain’s 2-per-cent DST was not affected.

        In a statement at the time, U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said the U.S. “is disappointed that Britain was unwilling to agree to fully address its discriminatory Digital Services Tax.”

        Britain kept theirs. They’d probably argue that they aren’t European, but y’know.

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    The first payments from Canada’s digital services tax, which was enacted last year and applies retroactively to 2022

    -Give me your lunch money.
    -Ok

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    Well, surely just one little capitulation will win Trump’s favour, and not sent him the message that Canada’s weak and he should push for more, right?

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      You can’t really stand up to power by voting, unfortunately. All your choices are just different ways of giving these jackals power with more or fewer steps.

      I hope there are local groups and organizations where you’re at that you can join to start to organize a grassroots movement.

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      I sincerely hope you learn something from this. This is the Liberal m.o. and has been for years. They’re a big business party, and don’t have typical Canadian’s interests at heart. Their most redeeming feature is that they’re not the Cons.

      If you actually care about bettering the lives of typical Canadians, then look at what parties have track records of getting results. (Hint: A lot of Canadians just got dental care.)

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        PP didn’t seem like a good choice to me. And there was no way any other party had a shot.

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          Because we’re always told they don’t have a shot.

          But, let’s just say, as of today, nobody votes liberal again. It would likely be the party that also gave use universal healthcare to at least take a minority.

          No more vote splitting.

          The only party that is remotely aligned with the people is the NDP. (And some greens.)

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      You voted for Liberals. Their only persistent trait is lying to the public about who they are and then siding with big business once elected.

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          Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn’t have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

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            It’s hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

            That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don’t see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

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              Exactly this. I came to this conclusion a long time ago, so I guess it’s nice to see others coming around to it.

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        Don’t forget tgat the government of Canada was created to protect the interests of a blanket retailer. A part of our heritage™

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    Let this be a lesson.
    Make the orange toddler walk into his own taco rakes. No need to set your own

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      Supply management on dairy. The yanks have hated that for a while, but there’s a bunch of Quebecois dairy farmers who really like it. I’m guessing that Carney is giving up the DST since it doesn’t have a constituency - if that allows him to keep supply management on dairy, it’ll be easier to keep Quebec’s support during the next election.

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        It’s not only Quebecois who don’t want American Dairy. Sask here, we better not drop those fucking dairy tariffs.

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          From what I’ve seen, Canada’s agriculture sectors have had a rough time over the past few decades: production is consolidating into a handful of players, profit margins are sinking, while those further up the supply chain seem to be enjoying most of the profits (and prices for the consumer aren’t improving). Dairy farmers have done really well compared to their peers in other sectors. I’m okay paying a bit more for dairy if it keeps them doing well.

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            It’s not even a matter of paying more for dairy, we would not have dairy farmers if we allowed American Dairy to flood our borders. https://youtu.be/PjBdZPnaDfc they literally have a massive underground facility because of the amount of cheese they overproduce.

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      Because we entrusted our country to a person that cares about one bottom line only and doesn’t actually give a fuck about telling trump to piss off?