• Stamets@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    I’ll never vote for a Liberal candidate again for as long as I live, regardless of ABC. I don’t give a fuck what the threat is. They’re effectively Democrats. Fundamentally worthless from soul to spine.

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      That’s what I said after they fucked us on electoral reform. Being a principled voter is the correct pragmatic decision in the long term.

      ABC results in US two-party system.

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          27 days ago

          Maybe in theory, but liberals never reciprocate. We gave up multiple incumbent ridings to the Conservatives because people voted for Carney instead of the incumbent NDP, who were IMO better candidates.

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    27 days ago

    Disturbing, as this was a significant revenue raiser that could help with those disenfranchised through tariffs, or fund the absurd destruction of Canada through 200% military spending increase. Continued US military alliance signals further capitulation, but just as attack on Iran was apparent end of war through victory declaration, there may be a quick return to status quo. OTOH, complete subjugation may be more likely.

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    27 days ago

    There better be a fucking explanation. To roll over, especially after the most recent 51st state bullshit? You better have a good goddamn reason.

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      I’m guessing the reason is supply management on dairy.

      There’s a large rural Quebecois voting block that really likes supply management. By dropping the DST, Carney can cede something to Trump without pissing them off. The DST doesn’t have the same constituency, so it’ll hurt the LPC less during the next election.

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      27 days ago

      Supply management on dairy. The yanks have hated that for a while, but there’s a bunch of Quebecois dairy farmers who really like it. I’m guessing that Carney is giving up the DST since it doesn’t have a constituency - if that allows him to keep supply management on dairy, it’ll be easier to keep Quebec’s support during the next election.

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        It’s not only Quebecois who don’t want American Dairy. Sask here, we better not drop those fucking dairy tariffs.

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          From what I’ve seen, Canada’s agriculture sectors have had a rough time over the past few decades: production is consolidating into a handful of players, profit margins are sinking, while those further up the supply chain seem to be enjoying most of the profits (and prices for the consumer aren’t improving). Dairy farmers have done really well compared to their peers in other sectors. I’m okay paying a bit more for dairy if it keeps them doing well.

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            It’s not even a matter of paying more for dairy, we would not have dairy farmers if we allowed American Dairy to flood our borders. https://youtu.be/PjBdZPnaDfc they literally have a massive underground facility because of the amount of cheese they overproduce.

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      27 days ago

      Because we entrusted our country to a person that cares about one bottom line only and doesn’t actually give a fuck about telling trump to piss off?

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    27 days ago

    FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

    Stop bending! Stop caving! Stop acquiescing to the fucking deranged dictator baboon running the shit show down south!

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      Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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        Since you said something similar in response to a different post, I’ll give a similar response to the one I did there:

        I have my doubts that Canadian companies would have all increased their google/facebook ad budgets over this.

        Anyway if it didn’t matter to those companies then why were they so opposed to it

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      You can’t really stand up to power by voting, unfortunately. All your choices are just different ways of giving these jackals power with more or fewer steps.

      I hope there are local groups and organizations where you’re at that you can join to start to organize a grassroots movement.

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      27 days ago

      You voted for Liberals. Their only persistent trait is lying to the public about who they are and then siding with big business once elected.

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        Don’t forget tgat the government of Canada was created to protect the interests of a blanket retailer. A part of our heritage™

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          Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn’t have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

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            It’s hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

            That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don’t see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

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              27 days ago

              Exactly this. I came to this conclusion a long time ago, so I guess it’s nice to see others coming around to it.

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      I sincerely hope you learn something from this. This is the Liberal m.o. and has been for years. They’re a big business party, and don’t have typical Canadian’s interests at heart. Their most redeeming feature is that they’re not the Cons.

      If you actually care about bettering the lives of typical Canadians, then look at what parties have track records of getting results. (Hint: A lot of Canadians just got dental care.)

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        PP didn’t seem like a good choice to me. And there was no way any other party had a shot.

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          Because we’re always told they don’t have a shot.

          But, let’s just say, as of today, nobody votes liberal again. It would likely be the party that also gave use universal healthcare to at least take a minority.

          No more vote splitting.

          The only party that is remotely aligned with the people is the NDP. (And some greens.)

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    27 days ago

    Let this be a lesson.
    Make the orange toddler walk into his own taco rakes. No need to set your own

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    Well, surely just one little capitulation will win Trump’s favour, and not sent him the message that Canada’s weak and he should push for more, right?

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    27 days ago

    The first payments from Canada’s digital services tax, which was enacted last year and applies retroactively to 2022

    -Give me your lunch money.
    -Ok

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        Last month, the U.S. and Britain announced a trade deal related to a range of products. But Britain’s 2-per-cent DST was not affected.

        In a statement at the time, U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said the U.S. “is disappointed that Britain was unwilling to agree to fully address its discriminatory Digital Services Tax.”

        Britain kept theirs. They’d probably argue that they aren’t European, but y’know.