• JamesTBagg@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    All the CPB I’ve seen in the southwest wear standardized uniforms, drive clearly marked vehicles, and don’t hide their faces.

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    8 days ago

    Isn’t it the job of the opposition party at this point to propose legislation that outlaws this practice? To run candidates on a platform of reigning in these abuses? To run ads with scary music saying how the government is infringing on liberties etc?

    Rural Republicans already fear three letter federal agencies: BLM, ATF, etc. Play to their fears, this very low hanging fruit, Democrats.

  • sramder@lemmy.world
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    Eh… homie needs to watch Mad Max again —any of them. But I’ll still give him 2 points for trying to be clever.

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        I feel like he sent them the scarves but the rest of those outfits are just sad… “Can I get a pair of tan pants in a size 45x80 even though I’m 4-foot-nothing? I want to look like an elephant that just ODed on estrogen pills fam!”

        Honestly I think they were LARPING as protesters or something but stopped for second donuts and didn’t get first pick from the costume department… or whatever they call their equipment room.

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      No they’re not. They’re enforcing the law.

      Go to any other country in the world illegally and see what happens

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        It’s obvious you’re trolling, as it is obvious that the people operating (supposedly) as part of ICE are playing fast and loose with the law (on top of being tyrannical for the sake of example).

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        Law enforcement announce presence and who they are in fact it’s incredibly important in criminal law because I don’t have to listen to some guyi have to listen to law enforcement, if you can’t prove you’re le and you put your hands on someone fully expect to be treated the same as any other criminal.

        You’re advocating for anyone with a gun and a bad attitude to be treated as le, you’re fucking insane.

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        They are not, in fact, enforcing the law. See Abrego Garcia.

        When masked men in other countries roll up and black bag people to unmonitored black sites we call it what it is, secret police.

        Overstaying a visa is a misdemeanor. Should jaywalkers get sent to torture camps? Shuffling people in to camps to starve wasn’t right when Greece did it either, but they had the excuse of being overwhelmed by volume, not deliberate cruelty.

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    If someone comes and tries to take you or those around you, defend yourself.

    Get a handgun, get a CCW and learn how to defend those you love.

    There are more of you than them.

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, what’s happening definitely requires exercising second amendment rights. And yet Americans are still mostly mum. Dumbing down Americans by the oligarchs paid off I guess.

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    8 days ago

    Masked armed men in edgy outfits ? A stadium ? They’re Barghest !

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      I mean, honestly, even without violence, this would be a fantastic protest technique. Imagine if whenever there was an ICE raid, there were hundreds of people dressed indistinguishably from the ICE thugs. Normally this doesn’t work at protests. If you put on a fake LAPD uniform, they’ll arrest you for impersonating a police officer. But since these thugs aren’t in uniform, then you’re not impersonating an officer by dressing like them.

      “ICE thug” should be the standard uniform for every protester. Watch as their raids collapse into absolute chaos as they can’t figure out who is actually on their team. Watch as the police thugs escorting ICE get completely confused as they don’t know who to shoot their rubber bullets and tear gas at. Just imagine protesters milling about in active raid scenes, walking in like they own the place, giving contradictory orders to ICE foot soldiers, etc. Hell, the protesters could “detain” many of the people being seized, load them into unmarked vans, drive them a mile away, and then just let them go.

      This can be weaponized, all without using actual weapons. Protesters could dress up like these ICE thugs and completely destroy their operations. ICE have forgotten that cops where uniforms not just to protect the public, but also so that cops can tell who is actually a police officer.

      It’s time ICE learned exactly why police wear uniforms. By not wearing uniforms, they’ve made themselves comically vulnerable to mass disruption by nonviolent protesters. They’ve completely destroyed their own chain of command, and they are vulnerable.

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        Lol. Try this and you will get shot by some “peace patrols” like in Salt Lake City last weekend. You lefties really think you’re having big brain moments with stupid little comments like this huh

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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          It’s so cute that US idiots are having “baby’s first fascist takeover”. Here is how it usually goes.

          • Roving far-right militias attack people on the streets and kill anyone politically active left of Hitler
          • People get fed up with shit
          • Roving far-left militias attack people on the streets and kill anyone politically active right of Stalin
          • People get fed up with shit
          • Roving far-right…
          • Hyperinflation and the destruction of the economy
          • Wealth stops having a meaning, political power just means you have a target on your back, 12 presidents dead in 10 years

          You’re destroying your country you geniuses. Your money is losing its value, your country is losing its credibility even with its own institutions, random small foreign countries are cucking your foreign policy. You’ve already lost like 30 years of power built, and every month you lose another year.

  • Maki@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    That looks like a gang, operates like a gang, and should be kicked off of the turf of any self-respecting gang, imho.

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      Honestly where the fuck are the gangbangers in all this? All that talk about fuck the police and how hard they are and all and there hasnt been one incidence of ICE being rolled up on by the westside crips.

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        Forget gangbangers. Protesters and activists should dress like ICE agents. Law enforcement are supposed to wear uniforms for two vital reasons:

        1. So civilians can know who is legitimate law enforcement.

        2. So law enforcement can know who is legitimate law enforcement.

        ICE doesn’t give a shit about (1), as they figure they have enough fire power to kill anyone who tries to arrest or assault them for dressing up like thugs. But they’ve completely forgotten about (2), and in the process have made themselves incredibly vulnerable to nonviolent protest and disruption.

        Forget holding signs. ICE has been rapidly expanded. Not only have the ranks swelled, but all sorts of people like militia members and bounty hunters have been deputized. Which means that not even the ICE agents on the ground are going to know who all is a member of ICE. They’re all wearing masks anyway.

        In the heat of the moment, ICE agents don’t have any way of telling who an ICE agent is.

        Forget holding up signs in protest. What really needs to happen is for every ICE raid to be swarmed by dozens of fake ICE agents. Normally using this tactic on law enforcement would be impersonating a police officer. But since ICE aren’t wearing uniforms, there’s nothing to impersonate!

        Imagine if every ICE raid was accompanied by dozens randos showing up and just getting in the way and causing chaos. Show up dressed as masked ICE thugs. Collect some of the immigrants being detained, put them in your own unmarked cars, and let them go a few miles away. Walk into a raid site like you own the place and are meant to be there. Then start taking up space, giving contradictory orders, standing in doorways, just generally causing any kind of nonviolent chaos you can think of. Turn their whole raid into a giant shit show of a circus.

        It’s time to weaponize ICE’s lack of identification. They don’t ID themselves to avoid accountability. But it’s time they were reminded of exactly why officers started wearing uniforms in the first place.

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        That’s because ICE are cowards. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re purposefully leaving areas under direct gang control alone.

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          they are, at the very least, not performing these kidnappings in “open carry”/“constitutional” states. For obvious reasons.

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            They are now leaving farming and roofing guys alone because the Tysons and Blackrocks are getting nervous about labor shortages.

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          They’re goal is fear and intimidation. They are going to every area and doing one or two workplace arrrests so that nobody feels safe. They’re not actually ready for a coordinated resistance. No cops are actually trained for anything like that.

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        So you would let mexicans get snatched?

        If you can make a difference and don’t, that’s more of a problem with your character.

        Never roll over for the fascists. Once the immigrants are gone, you’ll be next, and there will be noone left to stop them.