STOP writing Harry Potter fanfic.
START writing 2 Rats fanfic.
I made the same decision with Brandon Sanderson and his fuckin fanclub takes it extremely personally when I point out how problematic he is as an author.
Yes, his writing is good. Yes, his writing is remarkably inclusive with regards to sexual orientation, disability, and mental illness.
However, Brandon is a Mormon first and foremost, and actively tithes to his church. That means a significant percentage of ALL Dragonsteel profits go directly towards the suppression and disenfranchisement of LGBTQ+ programs, sex education, and effective mental health services.
He might write a good story, but his IRL politics are repugnant.
Oh, when you brought him up I was worried he had actively done something bad. But no, you just don’t like that he’s Mormon, that’s literally your only gripe.
Financially supporting the harming and oppression of others is a problem, no matter how it’s labelled. I think it’s completely fair to call that out.
So how many degrees of separation are necessary for your morals? Because unless you grow your own food, weave your own cloth, make everything you own yourself, and consume no media; I can pretty much guarantee there are things you have spent money or time on that contribute to groups or individuals that you find reprehensible.
Funnily enough, ignorance is a valid excuse here. You can’t be expected to investigate the companies behind every single product you buy or use in the day to day, but that’s not what were talking about here.
We’re talking about Brandon Sanderson, specifically, and how his tithes to the Mormon church significantly contribute to the open oppression and abuse of LGBTQIA+ communities. You, buying your mistborn and stormlight archive books, are DIRECTLY supporting that behavior.
That is some very intense False Equivalence you are brandishing.
No different than Rowling in that regard. Giving money for others to actively do something bad is also bad. You don’t get to launder your shit politics by paying someone to do the dirty work and it doesn’t absolve you of those politics.
Every time he tithes to that house of abuse and oppression, he IS actively doing something bad. Is that not enough for you?
No. And his books are good.
He tithes and hopes those funds go toward the good things the church accomplishes.
He has a lot of explanation on his relationship with the church and his stance on not allowing his religion to negatively affect his writing.
He has consistently advocated for lesser know authors and fought against Amazon to improve conditions for them.
His books are full of LGBTQIA+, neurodiverse people, women passing the bechdel test, and irl cultural inspiration from around the world.
He actually hires people to consult on things like schizophrenia so he doesn’t promote misinformation.
The thing you are asking him to do is abandon his community. Instead he works to better it from the inside. He is a lecturer at BYU and is directly exposed to the future leaders of that church. Let him cook.
So yeah I don’t like his religion’s track record but anyone who has investigated the guy can see he’s a fair author and the criticism is hyperbole.
Neat, gotta start reading this guy books then
I read the Mistborn books, and wasn’t terribly impressed. Anyone that repeatedly and unrepentantly uses the phrase “decked him in the face” is not a good writer. :)
Mistborn were his first books, the first trilogy is definitely a bit rough around the edges.
And how! That said, they weren’t entirely without entertainment value, and I did finish all of them, but I didn’t feel the need to read any more of his stuff, either.
I stopped the moment she showed herself to be a terf.
Never looked back.
Me as well, and I stopped watching anything with Dave Chappell too. TERFS can take a flying leap for all I care.
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Commtitle is slightly misleading, any microblog screenshots are allowed as per the sidebar.
Fuck stopping. Steal it all. Take it and enjoy it without her getting anything. Reclaim the art. Make it your own. Piss her off with fanfic and fan art based on things stolen from her.
Yes. Can we get a trans Harry fan fic where he defeats an evil trans hater? Make it a kids book to for extra points!
I got the recommendation for Kaleidoscopic Grangers from a similar thread a few months ago and really enjoyed reading it. It’s about a trans and blind HP navigating her adolescense while having the backing of the Granger family and was written explicitely to spite Rowling. And she certainly wont get royalties from you reading that :)
Chuck’s already got ya!
https://www.thriftbooks.com/series/trans-wizard-harriet-porber/200695/
This is how you do it. Hermione Grainger? More like HENRY GRINDER!! And he’s PEGGING HARRY!
Finally, someone else who understands. Reject the canon, embrace the ship
I feel the same way. I don’t understand why someone cant talk about Harry potter and still show support for pride month. I understand not buying things as cancel culture is logical if you are into that.
I think all the attention y’all give to her is what’s keeping this in the cultural spotlight. I basically never think about her, or the books, until I see posts like these on the internet. We gotta separate the art from the artist.
Normally I’d agree, but Harry Potter is already huge.
And while I think this whole response is a bit extreme, it is a case of her source of wealth being way more famous than herself.
I can get behind being in spite of her & other wealthy elites but I can’t abandon what my time with those books meant to me despite of her spite. So, y’all can guillotine her, I’ll still keep the books. But it really is the case that when I hear about her it’s because of these kinds of posts nowadays.
Yeah I think that’s a perfectly reasonable sentiment, and I despise frying that as a political purity test. Rowling is probably being platformed by all this by some extent… Any attention is good attention these days.
Shit, I hope JK doesn’t use it to run for some kind of office.
The utter popularity of Harry Potter (and the royalties she rakes in) undoubtedly dwarfs any personal name recognition/brand she ever achieves though. Like, it’s insanely popular.
Yeah, I don’t think that the brand is insanely popular because of her hate. Like, most people don’t care about her or even hear anything about her anymore. It’s just about Harry Potter, because that’s what it’s always been about. I almost feel like the discussion about her is bot farms creating that discussion.
Agreed.
I almost feel like the discussion about her is bot farms creating that discussion.
Close. It’s chum. It’s rage bait. It’s an engagement farm that suck people in, which is exactly how influencers like Trump climbed to the top of the world. It’s true, but it doesn’t change that raging against Rowling online helps Rowling, when the best form of protest would be to turn her into “she who shall not be named”
Be wary attributing to bots what can be attributed to the failure of “don’t feed the trolls”
You may not hear about her much, but that doesn’t mean Harry Potter isn’t getting a new show on HBO next year. Clearly, JK Rowling is still “in the cultural spotlight” and making plenty of money off of the thing this post is asking you not to support.
Sure, Karen.
I liked the (first four) movies. Honestly awesome if short Alan Rickman screentime. I pirated them. I watch hem whenever I want, not when you think I have to be a soldier for your cause, and that bitch still don’t get a cent from me.
Like, sure, conveniently I won’t have any spare time to rewatch them this month, but that’s because life is busy not becuse you think you’re right.
Or you could just… watch better movies.
But … Then I won’t understand the memes. 😕
My wife’s name is Karen. We have multiracial friends, gay and trans friends, and we don’t demand to speak to the manager. But she has to put up with the name she received at birth being used as a lazy slang term for horribleness - which to me is one of the most hypocritical behaviors a trans person or ally can engage in. But that’s just like, my opinion, man.
just call her K-dawg
You’re really giving off “you can’t tell me what to do” vibes on par with angsty teenagers and black conservatives. But good on you for pirating.
If you wanna play the game, pirate it and then play it offline.
I wasn’t interested in playing it, but now I’m gonna do this out of spite.
The game is alright, just go to the trans person and go and see the burning JK rowling picture
I would love to understand why saying “Don’t support cunts” is such a non-controversial statement.
Until it comes to Harry Potter.
Especially considering how simple it is to do.
Same thing for nintendo
There is a huge difference between a company being very protective about their intellectual property and somebody actively working on destroying lives on humans.
Nintendo just has a weird concept of protecting their property. Rowling instead is an arsehole
They’re basically swifties ffs.
because it’s Don’t support assholes,
but what if it affects me personally?
it is interesting how JK Rowling hasn’t had the same boycott pressure than Elon Musk and Tesla, I think trans rights are just not as motivating to most people, unfortunately
“There is no ethical consumption under capitalism”
“Learn to separate the art from the artist”
People grew up with this franchise. It is very much a part of the identity of those within the fandom. Stop villainizing them for their interest in the franchise just because JK turned out to be a bigoted bitch and is using her royalties to bankroll bigoted organizations.
Want to bitch about something? Bitch about the overarching systems that make interacting with your interests tangentially associated with funding bigotry and hate due to a convoluted system of ownership.
“There is no ethical consumption under capitalism”
That’s not a blank check to not bother with ethics though.
“Learn to separate the art from the artist”
You know Death of the Author is just a literary analysis tool, right?
Stop villainizing them for their interest in the franchise just because JK turned out to be a bigoted bitch and is using her royalties to bankroll bigoted organizations.
They aren’t being villainized for their interest in the franchise, they’re being villainized for for contributing to the bigoted organizations fund.
Want to bitch about something? Bitch about the overarching systems that make interacting with your interests tangentially associated with funding bigotry and hate due to a convoluted system of ownership.
I can bitch about more than one thing at a time, it’s not either/or.
Jesus Christ you missed the entire point.
No, it isn’t just a literary analysis tool, it is also a statement making social commentary about how someone can consume a piece of media without being supportive of the author and their actions as a private individual.
It absolutely is either/or, because if you understand the point of the latter one then it invalidates the reasoning behind the previous assumptions.
It isn’t the consumer’s fault that the product they enjoy is tangentially used to fund oppressive organizations. Literally every single thing you consume under capitalism contributes to the oppression of a marginalized person. That’s kinda the fault of the system we are forced to live under. Blame the system, not the individual.
You can bitch about the individual all you want, and I’ll continue to call everyone who does a shortsighted, myopic fool.
it is also a statement making social commentary about how someone can consume a piece of media without being supportive of the author and their actions as a private individual
That’s true, unless you are buying the products or watching the shows on a service, which would be supportive of the author.
It absolutely is either/or
Stopped reading because that is so blatantly wrong, trying thinking harder please.
It isn’t the consumer’s fault that the product they enjoy is tangentially used to fund oppressive organizations
That’s also true, but it is the consumer’s fault if they continue to support products that are used to fund oppressive organizations, particularly if it isn’t a necessity, and particularly particularly if they are quite well informed about the issue.
Literally every single thing you consume under capitalism contributes to the oppression of a marginalized person
Yes, but some things are essential to living, but even in those cases the consumer can STILL vote with their wallet. I repeat, “no ethical consumption under capitalism” is not an excuse to make the choice to support unethical organizations when there are more ethical alternatives.
If someone told me they specifically bought slave labor produced goods because they are always cheaper, they would still be wrong even though everything in our system exploits someone somewhere, because there is always a choice between lesser evils.
You can bitch about the individual all you want, and I’ll continue to call everyone who does a shortsighted, myopic fool.
Sorry you’re so triggered that people are rightfully judging you for choosing your little fandom over human rights, but it’s a choice you are actively making. Stop being a pussy and hiding behind excuses, you support J.K. Rowling because you want to.
No, buying the product=! Supporting the author. Again, since you seem to be dull I’ll repeat for you “learn to separate the art from the artist”.
I’m also gonna stop reading cause it’s clear you don’t think at all. Your position is shortsighted and myopic. Learn to think critically and stop blaming individuals for systemic problems.
Simple minded idiots like you are why the world is going to shit.
buying the product=! Supporting the author
that’s actually exactly what it is, like that is literally the most straightforward and direct way to support an author
Nah, even if you try to separate the art from the artist, her worldview still comes through, from the racist naming to Harry becoming a cop to the complete lack of examination of why magical fascism rose. The most telling part is that Magic Hitler was defeated by a quirk of nature, completely unrelated to the battles the rest of wizardkind were fighting or any actions taken by any characters during the time of the books.
By that logic, no one can enjoy anything but Andor. Every piece of entertainment is liberal or flawed in some way. Doesn’t stop people from enjoying them.
Nah, theres plenty of media where the authors shitty views and terrible world building dont become apparent the moment you stop and think, or where the author didnt have shitty views. Terry Pratchett’s Discworld, there’s Earthsea, Im sure theres other fantasy British novels.
Yea it’s children’s media. It’s never been touted as a literary masterpiece. That doesn’t change that people love the setting and wish to enjoy the media that takes place within it. I’m not here to criticize the works themselves on their literary merits for being copaganda and liberal hogwash.
The problem people have is that it is tangentially funding her, through the royalties she receives from how our system has structured ownership that entitles her to reimbursement. Yet, I guarantee, if all these people looked behind the curtains of the things they buy, then they will find they routinely “support” similar people through that same system of convoluted ownership funneling funds into their bank accounts.
So anyone trying to villainize people for enjoying a media franchise that they hold dear to them is a straight up hypocrite whose opinion I give zero shits about, unless the person laying that criticism literally has never engaged with the capitalist markets in any capacity.
Excuses for financially supporting every effort she makes to harm trans people. It’s a piece of media and just isn’t that important, watch other movies, read other books. You shouldn’t make excuses for giving money to someone you actively know is doing bad with it. You can have fond memories without giving her money, it’s not hard. I grew up with Harry Potter, but let’s be real here it doesn’t fucking own the “wizarding school” genre, it’s far from the only piece of media that explores it’s themes and concepts, and saying “it’s fine to give money to horrible people of you have enough nostalgia of their works” is the most spineless sentiment I’ve seen here in a while. Things are more important than your stupid fucking Harry Potter media.
Thanks for your shitty and shortsighted opinions. You can fuck off with them now.
Literally, everytine you buy anything at the store. You have given money to shitty people who will use that money to do shitty things. Welcome to life under the capitalist economy.
BLAME THE SYSTEM. NOT THE INDIVIDUAL
I will not, in fact, fuck off with them. You can recognize a poor system, but not use that as an excuse for shitty individual behavior. Always try to be better, always try to make better purchasing decisions. Buy used, buy refurbished, don’t engage with poorly written books and movies written by transphobes. You really cannot compare purchasing things you need to live to purchasing entertainment.
Cool. Fuck off. I do not care about the myopic judgments of a hypocrite.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Fuck anyone who judges others for simply trying to enjoy their life.
I’m not comparing anything to things people need to live. I know 100% it is entertainment. What you have failed to grasp is that no one has any right to judge others for their media consumption. I guarantee the media you consume also tangentially supports horrid organizations through the convoluted system we live under. Somewhere along the chain you have enabled the exploitation of someone, somewhere. That is the nature of the system we live under. This fact is inescapable.
So fuck off blaming the individual for what is a systemic problem. Emphatically, go fuck yourself and your opinion on this matter.
Systemic problems existing isn’t a catch all excuse that means you can do anything you want, fuck the consequences. If you knowingly support bigotry and hatred, I and all other trans people I know are not safe around you. The things you buy have different impacts, you can make choices in your life that matter, actually, even within the context of capitalism. We can definitely all look back at things we purchased that in hindsight we probably shouldn’t have. In particular the yearly-release model smartphones have taken is particularly wasteful and the materials used to manufacture them are supplied significantly by slave labor. I also don’t think it’s reasonable to throw your hands in the air and say “ah but there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, that means it’s okay for me to buy the newest iphone, every single year!”. I regret purchasing a steam deck for the same reasons. While obviously it’s obvious that slave labor is much more significant than JK Rowling and her bigotry, it’s the same logic. When you learn that something you spend money on is funding bad shit, the correct course of action is to do whatever you can to not spend money on said bad shit. I’m not judging people for having been Harry Potter fans, the judgement is on that refusal to reflect and course-correct their behavior. It’s spineless.
So you would be fine with me buying the biggest and most environmentally harmful truck and driving every distance over ten meters with it? If I can’t ethically consume under capitalism then I should consume only in the most unethical way?
Guess I pissed off some reactionary liberals.
While I disagree with the rest of your take, I could at least respect your opinion right up until your edit with this at the end. I can’t see your downvotes from my instance, but calling everyone that disagrees with your unpopular opinion “reactionary liberals” is a pretty weak effort on your part.
Cool. I don’t respect the opinion of those who disagree with this take. Those who blame the individual for systemic issues that are beyond their control are by definition reactionary. They react to the individual action and assign them blame for something that is not their fault rather than take into account the system factors that surround these choices.
So I really don’t give a shit if you don’t respect my opinion. I don’t respect yours.
I’m really sorry that you see everyone opposed to your views in this way, it must feel really miserable from where you’re standing. Have a nice day ✌️
And I’m sorry you cannot understand how disrespectful and unworthy of respect it is to hold the position to blame people for things beyond their control and for simply trying to live their life and enjoy the things they like.
People who do that are shitty people.
What is going on with your moral compass that you believe that sometimes, funding bigots doesn’t make you a shitty person, yet also lets you believe that disagreeing with you on that issue topic is enough to qualify someone as a shitty person?
If you can make an exception for people funding Rowling, you can make space for them disagreeing with you, without pretending that they’re the problem
You’re welcome 😊
I’ve had the first four books in the study at my mom’s house since I was a kid. My nephew and nieces will read them. We have the box set of DVDs from forever ago. Same deal. I wouldn’t consider myself a die-hard fan. I still don’t understand why die-hard fans could still be spending so much money on the franchise. Did they add to the books?
The short answer is it’s not books. It’s mostly licencing deals in the form of video games and merchandise… However HBO is about to put forward a new series that JKR will have executive control and an executive sized pay check for.
It’s the “well it already exists and licencing deals are already paid, might as well watch it/play it/own it” that keeps the whole engine rolling on. Every time there’s a little bit of advocacy to disengage from the fandom it is always spun as “too late” or focuses on the books or death of the author… But all that’s really required is ambivalence.
Inevitably the new HP thing will come out and whether or not trans people mention anything people will drag up the controversy, use the reminder to brigade the spaces trans people connect online, try and goad their trans coworker for a commentary and set off yet another flurry of right wing backlash that makes elevating the franchise a patriotic duty to “stick it to the moralizing trans people to show them who is boss”. All of this causes more cultural pressure on a population already underwater with being chased out of the public sphere but it will be framed as a just retaliation for a perceived slight.
It’s a song and dance that will continue ad infinitum as long as it’s profitable because appearantly nostalgia is worth turning a blind eye to the where the money goes.
At first I was like “not this shit again, let people enjoy stuff even if you don’t like it’s creator, stop being bitter about some dickhead’s wellbeing”
But then I saw what they’re referring to. Fucking hell.
JK doesn’t get money for all of the items. She sold off rights or partial rights to things like the games and movies and representation in theme parks.
Do you have citations for that? Do you know what she does get money for and how much? From what little I’m capable of googling, she seems to get royalties for just about everything.
That is a very short sighted perspective.
Jk sells for rights for x. buyer uses rights to create products, because buyer thinks it will boost sales. People buy products because of HP and sales are boosted. Buyer is happy.
Time passes.
Bought rights expire, buyer made a lot of money. Buyer wants to buy the rights again.
Alternatively
Buyer 2 sees success, wants a piece of the pie, buys rights from jk.
If you boycott HP, buyer wasted a lot of money and will not pay for an extension of the rights.
Yeah that’s fucking stupid. Most fans of a franchise care about the franchise, and especially with one this old, they treat it as a part of their identity and deeply like it.
Stupid statements like this will only alienate them and make them give Rowling money anyways. Instead, you could easily get some people to avoid paying Rowling for stuff (e.g. buy third-party Merch or second-hand stuff) and reclaim it (e.g. supporting the actors’ views instead).Exactly. Telling someone they’ve done a grave evil for supporting content they enjoy is insane to me. Especially if that content is devoid of the thing they are so angry about. It reads insane and lunatic and doesn’t help progress their cause to level headed human beings.
While I do agree that some go a bit hard on this it is true that buying the movies, the games, or official merch is directly harmful as the money is used to fund anti-trans lobbies. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect anyone to stop engaging with fanfiction or other things that doesn’t give Rowling cash, but I do understand why me and other trans people are upset when others cling to harry potter. It’s a sore point for us because we know what she stands for and are keenly aware of the bigotry even within the HP book series, not just Rowlings later statements. We are also aware that many simply do not care. Even if you tell them what the money is being used for people often don’t believe us, or choose to prioritize their indulgence into the fandom over preventing harm. Talking about HP does contribute to the popularity of the franchise and can therefore arguably indirectly hurt us. So I do ask that you have some understanding for why people are upset.
You are supporting at the least 1 trans hater. How many other employees of these shows and companies are you damging that are trans allies?
Id imagine more allies than haters but what do i know I am literally just making random assumptions lol
The reason I call it insane is directly visible in this thread with the comment from that guy telling me to die.
