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Might have better luck with the Marine Corps than the NRA. Either way, it won’t be an organizational/top-down thing.
The marines were just deployed domestically (blatantly unconstitutional) and they complied with the unlawful order. They are part of the fascist insurrection.
Military coups happen, that’s why Trump replaced all the generals that might stand against him
How often are those military coups AGAINST the fascists? Hell a lot of those military coups were backed by our military/intelligence agencies. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the US military to be the bastion against tyranny.
Did he? Of the sitting Joint Chiefs, only one of them was appointed by Trump in the last six months. Everyone else is a Biden nominee or unappointed acting member.
Bet they were salivating at shooting illegals while violating the constitution.
Should’ve packed them in like sardines with no food or water. They went there with the intent to murder.
I mean, you’re right, but it’s because of their demographics and proximity to the situation that I said what I said.
Few NRA members will be in any position to intervene or see the reality first-hand. Meanwhile, Marines have seen their spouses and other relatives deported in recent months. Trump was an idiot to deploy them like so, as opposed just about any other branch of the active-duty military.
Marines have seen their spouses and other relatives deported in recent months. Trump was an idiot to deploy them like so, as opposed just about any other branch of the active-duty military.
I take it Marines are especially likely to have family or spouses that are here illegally, for some reason?
As of February 2024, more than 40,000 foreign nationals were serving in active and reserve components of the Armed Forces. An estimated additional 115,000 foreign nationals residing in the United States are veterans who have previously served on active duty.
Service guarantees citizenship. We’ve got so many immigrants in the military. Heavy Hispanic representation. Rodriguez and Vasquez are stereotype names for military members and you’ll find it in movies all the time.
I do have a general feeling that Marines take more immigrants, especially Hispanic, but I don’t have anything to base it on.
It’s actually a little more complex than a guarantee, but serving in the US military is a path to expedited citizenship/permanent residency including family.
That doesn’t say anything about Marines in particular as opposed to any other branch of active duty military, which is the bit I was replying to.
Hispanics - particularly Hispanic men in the military - have long been loyal supporters of the Republican Party and the Trump Presidency. A lot of these guys are from families that fled countries undergoing left-wing insurgencies and joined the US military with an eye towards flipping their home countries back to conservative governance. In particular, you’ve got a lot of Cuban and Venezuelan ex-pats aligned with the capitalist opposition parties. You’ve also got a lot of Nicaraguans and Columbians with a family history opposed to the Sandinistas and the FARC rebels. And that’s before Marine Training beats anything resembling modern liberalism out of you.
The Trump anti-immigrant attitude puts them in a weird place, since they’re nominally aligned with his political attitude but physically exposed to his dragnet against anyone with an unseasonable tan. Also, heaven help you if you’re a queer Hispanic with conservative politics.
But go down the rooster of the Jan 6th gang. Check out who some of Trump’s most loyal supporters are in the House and Senate, particularly in Gulf states like Florida and Texas. You’re going to find a lot of Hispanics. The Marines are a hotbed of reactionary politics and fascist attitudes, second only to the holy roller Christian nationalists in the Air Force.
Sorry they only fight against improving the lives of people not actual tyranny
Don’t tread on me pointing a gun at you.
You can’t expect the brown shirts to resist their own guy.
ICE is raiding the places with the strictest gun laws. Plenty of Hispanics here in the South, don’t see them fucking with Georgia.
Blue states. They’re raiding blue states and ignoring red states.
And your point? One of these things is just like the other.
CA and NYC seem to be top of the news and they clearly have the toughest gun laws. NYC may as well be in another country and CA is pretty ridiculous.
Are you suggesting they’re afraid of gun owners firing on ICE to protect their undocumented neighbors? Or that the people they’re detaining may defend themselves with force, even though undocumented immigrants can’t purchase or possess firearms in red OR blue states?
They’re afraid of agitating their voters and losing votes. Guns have nothing to do with it.
Ever notice the fascists don’t show when guns are around? This whole site was screaming with joy, and I along with them, when armed people showed out to protect drag queens reading at libraries.
Someone firing on their foot soldiers is the best gift anyone could give a fascist would-be dictator.
ICE is raiding all over the country. Take a look at San Antonio, for example. The Trump Admin is loudest though about blue states, and you seem to be easily swayed by propaganda, so makes sense all you can hear is what Trump talks about
First off, go fuck yourself with all that. You will not paint me with your MAGA paintbrush.
I can’t even argue this shit with someone who clearly isn’t watching the news.
“Nuh uh! I have a couple of tiny exceptions that prove I’m right!”
Gun laws have fuck all to do with this
Oh no, they’re all over fucking Texas. At least in the cities. San Antonio just had a BUNCH of people arrested at the Courthouses last week. Its fucking infuriating.
at least in the cities
You mean Houston, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, and San Antonio, the extremely large relatively blue cities?
Oh, of course. That’s a given. But the original comment implied that the feds are only fucking with blue states and immigrants are fine in places like Georgia.
I was assuring that commenter that immigrants in Texas are indeed not okay. And where are they supposed to go? Run into the red counties surrounding the cities?
Fuck. This state has the opportunity to be someone’s first glimpse of America, and it chooses to portray a shitty, hateful, dangerous view of it. Makes me fucking sick. I feel so goddamned stuck. Fortunately though, the cities have been protesting as well. There was an anti-ICE protest in SATX this past weekend, and theres another one scheduled for Saturday.
Oh, of course. That’s a given. But the original comment implied that the feds are only fucking with blue states and immigrants are fine in places like Georgia.
The idea is to target blue areas so they can put on a show of “doing something” about immigration while their base continues to see around the same number of brown people who don’t speak English very well and so continues to believe that the “invasion” is ongoing and stronger action needs to be taken.
I’ll say this though - since Trump started doing heavy ICE enforcement I’ve noticed a lot fewer truck drivers who need a translation app to handle basic English. Makes me wonder if ICE has got them afraid of having to deal with DOT.
For now
same same
Best they can do is wing a few reporters.
Proceed to Fire a flashball at a reporter
Uh, the average level of American marksmanship that we’ve seen suggests that tyranny is perfectly safe.
Suddenly, the storm troopers in Star Wars make sense
300 yards with iron sights on an AR platform is pretty tough. I’m assuming that’s the shot you’re referring to.
Note: “average”
White supremacist organizations like the NRA are constantly working to impose tyranny.
They won’t do that. Every time some fucking pig uses their horse to step on a protestor they nut.
The NRA Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons
Throughout the late 1960s, the militant Black nationalist group used their understanding of the finer details of California’s gun laws to underscore their political statements about the subjugation of African-Americans. In 1967, 30 members of the Black Panthers protested on the steps of the California statehouse armed with .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns and .45-caliber pistols and announced, “The time has come for Black people to arm themselves.”
The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions.
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In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
NRA seems like a bunch of sniveling, boot-licking, white nationalist fascists IMO
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This is why most gun owners prefer GOA. NRA just inserts itself as the face of gun owners, doesn’t actually represent us. GOA is actually libertarian, is for armed citizens not militarized cops. Stays in its lane with politics. Doesn’t go out of its way to get bad PR with left.
Thinking gun owners like the NRA is about on the same level as thinking we shoot clips. They are the AARP of guns. They exist only to collect money from idiots.
Oh they will rise up, but it will be on the side of tyranny.
What do you expect from a bunch of terrorists?
Read this as “Cmon do a racist tyranny” at first. Like, damn thats pretty mask off, and hello welcome to the last decade…
But yeah, “resist” works too.
And I read this as “Cmon do a racist [T slur]” , to which I say no thank you. I don’t find racists attractive tyvm.
What is a t slur?
You’re allowed to write it out as long as you don’t direct it at someone.
The same reason ruzzians don’t.
I’ve said this before on Lemmy and got down voted, but this is accurate. When it comes to current willingness to fight for our rights, Americans are Russians, not the French.
There just aren’t any serious leftist movements. Tankies are passionate and as much overlap as you might have they won’t want to pull in the same direction for one reason or another. Texas has possibly more left leaning people, but they will never show up, nor make their own party to spoil the vote (still worth doing to shift the overton window back).
Its a shame really.
They did. They were just bad at it.
Growing apathy? The collapse of the USSR and their living standards falling did a number on them
The US is following suit.
Incorrect. Americans do not revolt because we are fat and not uncomfortable enough. Russians do not revolt because they are drunk and numb…because they are drunk.
So, I’m fat & drunk = I’m a AmeriRuss?
Aren’t we all?
So, apathy.
Isn’t it always?
A mix of having too much to lose and a sense that there’s nothing to gain.
The lesson of the 20th century that’s beaten into the head of every American liberal is “Animal Farm”. If anyone advocates for a revolt, it is only because they want to be the new evil bastards in charge. Sincere opposition to oppression isn’t real. Anarchism is just chaos, not a real non-hierarchical organizing philosophy. Democracy is a farce. And any disruption of the status quo will end badly for everyone involved.
The apathy is a consequence of decades of authoritarian propaganda couched in “American/Russian Exceptionalist” language. And if you scuff the paint on Exceptionalism, what you end up with is White Nationalism, which is what’s really holding back the bulk of revolutionary sentiment. “I’m (the correct kind of) white, so none of this will affect me, personally. Why stick my neck out so some Woke Atheist Black Feminazi Muslim Tankie can seize power?”
because they are drunk and numb…because they are drunk.
Who upvotes this lib racism?
NRA obviously isn’t going to help us, but your local Socialist Rifle Club would be more amenable to resisting tyranny. If there is no chapter in your area get some like minded friends together and start one.
SRA is pretty explicit about not being a “militia” of any kind. Good place to meet cool people, but they won’t be resisting under the SRA banner. John Brown Gun Club on the other hand is a little less timid about showing up to protect people.
Thanks for mentioning them, my thoughts were apparently not fully engaged yet when I posted, and originally said ‘Socialist Rifle Club’, my brain combined them into one
Democrat-voting socialist here, this argument is fucking stupid because nothing is stopping the Left from also buying guns and doing what this post is implying. Y’all just want an easy target to hate and impotently complain online about, when you could also go buy a gun, organize, and stop tyranny yourself.
Fuck Trump fuck Republicans, but also fuck Democrats, including you the person reading this, for being associated with gun fearing pussies who want other people to do the hard work for you.
They’re literally just pointing out the hypocrisy and lies of the organization but okay
“Including you the person reading this”.
We don’t all live in the US you know…
I’m not kink shaming, but isn’t it dangerous to fuck yourself with your gun, buddy? Be safe!
“From my cold dead hands!”
They actually apparently want to die, not actually keep their guns.
