• squaresinger@lemmy.world
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    Remember when mail was useful? When you opened the letter box hoping to see a letter from a friend who moved to a different city?

    Now mail is just like email. Or to put it differently, email became like it’s physical predecessor.

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      We have a law in German that you can opt out of advertisement on the mail by putting a sticker on to your mailbox that states “No Advertising”. Companies have to respect it or will be fined.

      I wish there was a “No advertisement please” sticker for my inbox too, but a junk filter will have to do.

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    They forgot the newsletters you get twice a day* (*thrice if you opted out of newsletters) and the deluge of spam when everyone at Bonto sold your email address while they were going out of business.

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    “BONTO is selling your personal info to Google! Click this non-working link to opt out!”

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        You jest but…

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        Enshittification never sleeps, stealing all ideas that it can possibly get away with!

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      <unwarranted rage No way, BONTO! sucked. You couldn’t even Slorp your entire friends list anymore, and they added all of those BONTOgrams for no reason. We disagree on a topic, so I despise you now and your entire genetic line. </rage

      But you should really try NeWSlarP, a FLOSS fork of Slorp by the original developer that brings back both SlorpTokens and Schlarpmänner!

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          The real answer is that when I closed the tags, they didn’t show up in the comment. So I left them open, because it looked utterly ridiculous. But I like your interpretation way better!

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          Closing > for the tag is left as an exercise for the reader.
          unwarranted is a property of the rage tag (the properties are declared before the tag name)

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      As a top 1% graaaaj user, I always felt bad for you guys. You should migrate to graaaaj, we have asparagus!

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    I never knew when email was useful. It’s all cold calls, or useless actions and full of anxiety experience. And in the middle of all that still have to be careful with spam and phishing. Some people say that is useful for quick messages, but then if in a thread with people during one day or two all the freaking messages are like “Hi Mark,… Best Regards” bullshit, forcing me to go to the search engine trying to find a closing statement different than previous…

    Really, email, my only wish is for it to die. And everyone just expects you to know how to use it, with those useless and weird Bcc and Cc and other weird magical keywords. Don’t get me started on “email etiquette” when everybody does it different and if you fo to some mailing lists you are immediately bullied or dismissed just because you don’t know the magical incantations they work with…

    It’s all bullshit and I deeply hate it in my soul. Truly a tech from the 60s.

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    You don’t hate email; you hate BAD email. Probably broadcast junk.

    GOOD email is private Bank statements over a provably secure e2e transport marked clearly for filters (with a JSON section for import automatically; am I right?). It’s “here is a new copy of the plans.” It’s “Dear Aunt Helen.”

    Every now and then, although I know and support the alternate position for reasons I think have been shown as obvious, repeatedly, I sometimes think a 1¢ postage for unsolicited mail - okay, make it a buck - would be okay… IFF that could be figured so the recipient would be assured of getting half. Make it cost; make it pay.

    No no, hear me out. Unpaid transit charges for unsolicited bulk email by the person owning the domain is now inter-region or international wire fraud, and the people making a habit of it will build up enough that they’ll warrant action. Ergo. make it financial and maybe we’ll see cops raiding scam shops.

    That’s the dream anyway…

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      The US was actually headed this way, starting with spam phone centers… Then the head of the FCC was replaced.

      Could be a coincidence. Could be open naked class warfare by billionaires against the rest of us. Hard to say which, for sure.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    I got an email the other day from Reddit about their privacy policy in the email account I made specifically for Lemmy and have not used AT ALL for Reddit. It is the only unexpected email I’ve ever had at this address and it made me wonder if someone else made a reddit account using my email. But then, it’s not publicly visible on Lemmy, afaik. Is it somewhere?

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      I too got an email about policy change. What’s weird is that I did not get such email on my main email, which is used for my reddit account, but I did get that email on another email that I mostly use to sign up on random sites. That email said it affects a reddit account by the name I never heard before and it was empty (zero posts/comments), created 2-3 years ago, so that was weird

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    Christ I’m old enough to have received the Canter and Siegal green card lottery email.

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    Don’t forget

    • "BONTO! is sneakily roping you into a binding private arbitration clause because they’re planning to do some real shady shit that’ll affect a critical mass of users!

    (At the bottom of the email)

    …You can still opt to use the public justice system that already exists if you disagree with this. You simply must send your disagreement in writing upon a clay tablet delivered by a specific courier to a remote P.O Box in Illinois within the next 32 business hours.

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    I actually love email. It’s great that we have a standard and open protocol for sending and receving virtual mail. Without email we would be now probably using some closed-source proprierary and not interoperable solution witch locks you in. I’m glad it didn’t happen.

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    Subject: your billing statement is now available

    Body: Log on to our website because we couldn’t possibly JUST FUCKING TELL YOU HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY OR WHATEVER YOU USED THIS MONTH DIRECTLY IN THE E-MAIL; no, we’ve got to play fucking games and make you do extra work and stop you from automatically having a record of your shit without having to deliberately log on to the platform we control and download them individually with 30 seconds worth of clicking between each one.

    WTF is even the point of the email if there’s NO USEFUL INFORMATION IN IT?!

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      It’s annoying, but from a data security point of view it makes sense, personal information like that is more secure behind the login on their website than in an e-mail in plain text.

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        That should be my choice, not theirs. I should at least be able to opt into having useful information directly in the email!

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          I agree with you, but it’s easier for those companies to just do one option, rather than offer user/customer choices which would create additional effort both technical on the backend and legally.

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        When it’s billing data I can see it, but if it’s a notification that someone sent you a message, you know there’s no reason they can’t include the message text. They just want your engagement (looking at you, LinkedIn).

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          No, you’re absolutely right. Hiding a message behind a login is essential linkedin style click baiting essentially.

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      Of course not, can’t let the consumers keep an easy paper trail of their bills. That would mean we would be caught on mischarges!

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      Information channels arent for communication.

      They’re for advertising, provocation, and corporate shibboleths of consent.

      Maybe get on board with the 20th century, grandma.

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      But the website will only show how much you used, if you want to see how much that costs, you have to use our app, which for some reason requires location access, storage access and call access…

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      Oh, not the total owed, but the actual usage graphs. Yeah I only get an annual email containing a recap pretty much at years end for a few services. Otherwise it’s off to the shitty website.

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        Otherwise it’s off to the shitty website.

        I’ve been promised that AI will fix all the shitty websites, soon.

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      I’m currently locked out of my electricity provider’s payment site. They kept asking me if my name was on the account when I logged in. I would click yes and then it’d ask for a bunch more information. I managed to get around it and get to bill pay. Eventually they locked me out. Now they want me to call them so they can get more data out of me to sell to data brokers, and on principle, I’m not about that, so I just pay by phone like a boomer with my paper bill now.