Liberalism is a conservative ideology, so yeah, it would make sense that the most liberal instance out there is opposed to communism. I wouldn’t call it a psyop though, instead I would say it’s Neo Reddit. Just a bunch of liberals all circlejerking each other over Wall Street and war crimes.
This hurt my brain. In my head liberalism is right of center, where as conservatism is center right, followed by fascism on the far right. I don’t know if this is accurate but, it’s my interpretation of the political spectrum.
I’m assuming you’re American? In any other country, the American Democratic party would be considered conservatives. If you compared them to the UK, for example, they share similar policies with the Tories.
American politicians like AOC and Bernie are slightly left of center. There aren’t any real leftist parties in the US. Meanwhile, most Americans would consider them leftists, because from our perspective they are the most left.
I was speaking strictly to ideological politics, removed from electoral politics. The American democratic party is largely ideologically neo-liberal, which in my previous comment I mentioned to be right of center.
It’s my opinion that elected/prospective representatives are going to obfuscate their true ideology (if they hold one) if it serves their interests. This often betrays the trust in their constituents, leading them to believe the party is left wing.
That might be, but as an example from Germany, the FDP are referred to as liberal, even though they are against pretty much everything that American liberals stand for.
Their main focus is creating a free market and propagation of unfettered capitalism.
From the Wikipedia page, it’s reads as the middle ground between socialist and market liberal ideas.
Oh right, like the article says it’s Keynesian liberalism. When I hear that I think “FDR style liberalism” which is the least right wing economic liberalism. I still classify it as right wing even if it’s the least right wing. That’s just my assessment.
As far as I’m aware, the terms “Liberal” and “Conservative” aren’t exactly mutually exclusive.
“Conservative” originally referred to defending tradition and social order. “Liberal” emphasized individual rights, reform, and limiting state power. Though once opposing forces, the terms have evolved today, someone can be socially liberal but economically conservative, or vice versa. Their meanings often depend on context.
I agree with this mostly. I just believe being economically conservative or economically liberal, as a consequence, buttresses the same economic mode of production. I view that mode of production to be inherently coercive/rightwing.
Liberalism is a conservative ideology, so yeah, it would make sense that the most liberal instance out there is opposed to communism. I wouldn’t call it a psyop though, instead I would say it’s Neo Reddit. Just a bunch of liberals all circlejerking each other over Wall Street and war crimes.
This hurt my brain. In my head liberalism is right of center, where as conservatism is center right, followed by fascism on the far right. I don’t know if this is accurate but, it’s my interpretation of the political spectrum.
I’m assuming you’re American? In any other country, the American Democratic party would be considered conservatives. If you compared them to the UK, for example, they share similar policies with the Tories.
American politicians like AOC and Bernie are slightly left of center. There aren’t any real leftist parties in the US. Meanwhile, most Americans would consider them leftists, because from our perspective they are the most left.
I was speaking strictly to ideological politics, removed from electoral politics. The American democratic party is largely ideologically neo-liberal, which in my previous comment I mentioned to be right of center.
It’s my opinion that elected/prospective representatives are going to obfuscate their true ideology (if they hold one) if it serves their interests. This often betrays the trust in their constituents, leading them to believe the party is left wing.
From what I know, liberal in other parts of the world often means market liberal, not social liberal
I’ll have to look up what a social liberal means. If I’m not mistaken, upholding the institution of capital is universally a liberal value.
That alone would make them some flavor of rightwing in my mind.
That might be, but as an example from Germany, the FDP are referred to as liberal, even though they are against pretty much everything that American liberals stand for.
Their main focus is creating a free market and propagation of unfettered capitalism.
From the Wikipedia page, it’s reads as the middle ground between socialist and market liberal ideas.
Oh right, like the article says it’s Keynesian liberalism. When I hear that I think “FDR style liberalism” which is the least right wing economic liberalism. I still classify it as right wing even if it’s the least right wing. That’s just my assessment.
As far as I’m aware, the terms “Liberal” and “Conservative” aren’t exactly mutually exclusive.
“Conservative” originally referred to defending tradition and social order. “Liberal” emphasized individual rights, reform, and limiting state power. Though once opposing forces, the terms have evolved today, someone can be socially liberal but economically conservative, or vice versa. Their meanings often depend on context.
I agree with this mostly. I just believe being economically conservative or economically liberal, as a consequence, buttresses the same economic mode of production. I view that mode of production to be inherently coercive/rightwing.