Still waiting on that CIA paycheck, man when CIA payroll dept finally pays me that back pay is gonna be sweet!

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    9 days ago

    I’m assuming you’re American? In any other country, the American Democratic party would be considered conservatives. If you compared them to the UK, for example, they share similar policies with the Tories.

    American politicians like AOC and Bernie are slightly left of center. There aren’t any real leftist parties in the US. Meanwhile, most Americans would consider them leftists, because from our perspective they are the most left.

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      I was speaking strictly to ideological politics, removed from electoral politics. The American democratic party is largely ideologically neo-liberal, which in my previous comment I mentioned to be right of center.

      It’s my opinion that elected/prospective representatives are going to obfuscate their true ideology (if they hold one) if it serves their interests. This often betrays the trust in their constituents, leading them to believe the party is left wing.

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        7 days ago

        From what I know, liberal in other parts of the world often means market liberal, not social liberal

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          7 days ago

          I’ll have to look up what a social liberal means. If I’m not mistaken, upholding the institution of capital is universally a liberal value.

          That alone would make them some flavor of rightwing in my mind.

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            7 days ago

            That might be, but as an example from Germany, the FDP are referred to as liberal, even though they are against pretty much everything that American liberals stand for.

            Their main focus is creating a free market and propagation of unfettered capitalism.

            From the Wikipedia page, it’s reads as the middle ground between socialist and market liberal ideas.

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              Oh right, like the article says it’s Keynesian liberalism. When I hear that I think “FDR style liberalism” which is the least right wing economic liberalism. I still classify it as right wing even if it’s the least right wing. That’s just my assessment.