• Fleur_@aussie.zone
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    11 days ago

    Be human.

    Have billions of tons of atmosphere directly above you

    Don’t explode

    Make it make sense

  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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    12 days ago

    I remember a quote from an A380 pilot saying the plane doesn’t look like it should be able to fly.

    Even the people that fly them know they don’t look like a flying object.

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      12 days ago

      I get it. The plane is so disgusting the earth tries to keep it as far as possible from the ground.

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        12 days ago

        No, thats the helicopter. It’s said that it does not fly, but is repulsed by the earth because it is the hubris of man manifest.

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          11 days ago

          Planes fly because aerodynamics.

          Helicopters fly because money.

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            Helicopters leave the ground because God has gazed upon them, and became angered when He saw them among His beasts, on the lands of His creation. God then decided to expel the helicopters from His earthly kingdom to flutter helplessly in His skies. God did this to punish Man, whose hubris led him to climb into the unholy creation. The Lord would then strike down the abomination fluttering in His skies, condemning the heretics that had climbed aboard in the belief that they could fool Him.

            Thus the name “Jesus nut”.

        • Geobloke@lemm.ee
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          12 days ago

          Well, I could’ve said male seahorses if that makes you feel better? Are they still submarines if you put them in an aquarium on a plane, but the plane crashes into the ocean?

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    11 days ago

    My faith in humanity is so low that I 100% believe there are planes are not real truthers that’s out there.

    • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works
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      11 days ago

      Well, I mean, those flat earth idiots clearly have never flown, so I wouldn’t be surprised if their digging down attitude would include planes. They already think the moon landing is fake, don’t they?

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        Actually that’s something I don’t understand, they think the moon is a sphere about 100 miles across about 1000 miles above the flat Earth. Why couldn’t humans have flown that short distance?

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          it depends on your flavor of flat-earther. for the religious types, the firmament is supposed to be in the way. for secular flat-earthers, I think they just like being contrary?

  • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
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    It’s not pressure under the wings, it’s fucking Bernoulli sucking on top of them.

    (So, yes, sure, it is gay, but it’s not fake.)

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        11 days ago

        A fighter jet is basically a fancy dart, and darts dgaf about gravity

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        11 days ago

        Flaps. (As in, the hinged bits at the back edge of the wings, that essentially change the shape of the wing as required, not by flapping the wings; that’d be an ornithopter, as in Dune, not a plane.)

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          But… right-side-up, the plane fights gravity, has upward lift, according to Bernoulli principle. And even if we angle the flaps to decrease altitude, it’s still not dropping like a rock, the wings still generate lots of upward lift.

          400 ton plane, wings w 400 ton lift = flight

          Now (before engaging flaps) those same wings upside down would be generating downward “lift” PLUS pull of gravity. So now the 400 ton plane is like an 800 ton plane. Can the flaps alone lift that? Or, said another way, if we gave the plane flat wings, no Bernoulli, and stacked another plane on top of it (to make 800 tons), could it fly right-side-up just using flaps?

          • ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world
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            I’m not a geologist, but I think the planes that typically fly upside down, are significantly lighter than 400 tons.

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        11 days ago

        I’m 100% convinced this was never a battle of airframes and manufacturers and simply was down to: “No, sir/ma’am, I will not fly the derpy plane into combat. Can’t do it. YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE REST OF THE PILOTS WILL LAUGH AT ME”

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      The absolute maximum that Bernoulli can suck is 14.7PSI at sea level. Not even your mother can generate a greater vacuum.

      There is no fundamental limit to the pressure that can be generated under the wing.

      With sufficient thrust and proper angle of attack, a brick can produce sufficient pressure underneath it to generate lift.

      • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
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        Fair enough, yet unless I’m mistaken most planes don’t rely on people throwing bricks at them (which would be quite risky anyway, for unless they throw them faster than escape velocity they’re bound to come back down eventually).

  • Thorry84@feddit.nl
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    12 days ago

    Well I must admit, when the plane is resting on the ground, the wings droop down a lot. Then when airborne it’s the other way around, the wings curve upwards as the fuselage hangs from them. In my mind nothing that big made of metal should be able to flex that much.

    But since I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I have learned about material science, airplane design and engineering. And I have found out that it does indeed flex that much. It also isn’t that thick, since it’s only a skeleton wrapped with a very thin layer of metal. In fact if it didn’t flex as much, it would be weaker and not stronger.

    So the thing I really learnt is never to trust intuition when it comes to things like this.

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    I think large planes “look” like they can’t work because their “relative speed” is really low — that is, their speed relative to their length. We’re used to seeing birds cover tens of lengths per second, whereas a large airliner covers ~1ish per second at takeoff.

    Or not, but this always seemed like a plausible explanation as to why planes look impossible. (Though given that hovering birds don’t look funny, maybe this is a silly observation…).

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      11 days ago

      Though given that hovering birds don’t look funny, maybe this is a silly observation…

      Birds flying against the wind and staying in the same spot as a result do look kinda weird though. Especially if you are not aware/don’t notice there is mstrong winds

    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      That’s a really thoughtful take, I’m glad you shared. I think it has merit. I think proximity is a factor too. The public rarely gets up close to a jet, but I can attest from personal experience they seem much faster when you’re closer during takeoff and landing.

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      Aye, good sir, I do most heartily concur; for 'tis a truth well settled that the tongue of man is fixed, unyielding, and shall ne’er be altered.

  • Match!!@pawb.social
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    12 days ago

    at takeoff i like to imagine that the plane is going into a massive underground subway network with really nice screens along the sides

    • Leon@pawb.social
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      12 days ago

      I would be worried if the aeroplane goes down rather than up during takeoff.

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    11 days ago

    Anon, it took one hundred years of trial and errors in design and mechanical failures, resulting in hundreds of deaths, to perfect the dark arts of aviation.

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    12 days ago

    The funniest thing is that the aerospace engineers who made this possible are just as much hopeless dysfunctional wrecks as the rest of us.

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    12 days ago

    Next time you see a plane imaging two hooks in the middle of the wings, a crane lifting up the plane with these two hooks and shaking it.

    This give you a good approximation of what the forces in the plane are, and once you picture that you might think that there is no way the plane can hold up in this situation. Yet it does.

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    11 days ago

    This person’s grasp of physics is like halfway there. Like one more module and they’d calm the fuck down.