Gotta say, using 3 just feels like giving up due to laziness, even in 1200BC.
Also it’s interesting how the Chinese entries basically stop between 1400 and 1949, whereas European names are far more present during this era. Some Japanese ones, too. I wonder how comprehensive this page is.
AFAIK the Chinese knew that the value between that of the encompassing shape that meets the circle at tangeants to the inscribed shape whose edges meet the same equidistant points gives us the approximation of pi. So did archimedes, and maybe even the babylonians.
So while a triangle yields about 3 and satisfies the theorem, you could also theoretically draw a 96 gon and 192 gon like Liu Hui for an accuracy of 9x10^5.
Personally I just memorize 22/7 or use the Leibniz infinite series if I have to.
Rounding pi to 3 is just the engineering way. It’s close enough to get the job done and then I don’t have to worry about decimal places. However, using pi=3 typically undershoots your calculations, so personally I like to use pi=4
I finally found you, an engineer actually using π=3 (or 4 as you say), and not just people making fun of it.
I am also an engineer, but I’m going to wager much more recently graduated (worked 3.5 years).
Who hurt you?
Like, I get it, in a world before calculators, but there’s a button on the calculator, in your spreadsheet, in whatever program that approximates pi to many, many, many digits.
Putting in a design/safety margins into pi seems like a strange choice.
Sincerely, an engineer looking for answers on this π=3 meme.
Even if it’s back of the napkin first past approximation. You have a phone calculator. Please use it for our collective peace haha
Only 7 years of engineering experience and pretty much every time I have used pi, I have rounded it to 3 or 4. Now, the thing is, I am an electrical engineer that works in industrial automation. I never use pi at all
Gotta say, using 3 just feels like giving up due to laziness, even in 1200BC.
Also it’s interesting how the Chinese entries basically stop between 1400 and 1949, whereas European names are far more present during this era. Some Japanese ones, too. I wonder how comprehensive this page is.
AFAIK the Chinese knew that the value between that of the encompassing shape that meets the circle at tangeants to the inscribed shape whose edges meet the same equidistant points gives us the approximation of pi. So did archimedes, and maybe even the babylonians.
So while a triangle yields about 3 and satisfies the theorem, you could also theoretically draw a 96 gon and 192 gon like Liu Hui for an accuracy of 9x10^5.
Personally I just memorize 22/7 or use the Leibniz infinite series if I have to.
Sometimes zero decimals is enough precision even in 2025…
…but also because of laziness…
Rounding pi to 3 is just the engineering way. It’s close enough to get the job done and then I don’t have to worry about decimal places. However, using pi=3 typically undershoots your calculations, so personally I like to use pi=4
I finally found you, an engineer actually using π=3 (or 4 as you say), and not just people making fun of it.
I am also an engineer, but I’m going to wager much more recently graduated (worked 3.5 years).
Who hurt you?
Like, I get it, in a world before calculators, but there’s a button on the calculator, in your spreadsheet, in whatever program that approximates pi to many, many, many digits.
Putting in a design/safety margins into pi seems like a strange choice.
Sincerely, an engineer looking for answers on this π=3 meme.
Even if it’s back of the napkin first past approximation. You have a phone calculator. Please use it for our collective peace haha
(All jibes in jest, I’m genuinely curious)
Only 7 years of engineering experience and pretty much every time I have used pi, I have rounded it to 3 or 4. Now, the thing is, I am an electrical engineer that works in industrial automation. I never use pi at all
An error margin of less than 5% (even better, biased in a known direction) is more than good enough for plenty of use cases.
An error margin of more than 25% on the other hand, is seldom acceptable.
It’s called safety factor
Nah, it’s fine. Trust me I use pi=4 in every calculation I do that uses pi and I haven’t ever run into any issues at all
(I’m not that type of engineer, I never do anything with pi)
One is an error margin, the other a factor of safety!