Remember in starship troopers they had co-ed showers. If we can fight bugs while accepting gender neutral showers, wtf are we even doing today?
I’m doing my part.
I am not sure that a movie depicting fascism should be the thing we aspire to
Depicting or making fun of?
Focusing on the gender neutral showers. Not the military = citizenship thing.
The movie is a jab against that idea.
as [Paul Verhoeven, the director] states in the film’s DVD commentary, the central takeaway message of Starship Troopers is that “War makes fascists of us all.”
– Owen Morawitz on medium.comI am aware it’s anti-fascist in message, but i’d recommend watching Lindsay Ellis’ video about satirizing nazis/fascists, the main point being that message is often lost on people and just makes it look cool, see people clamoring for the Warhammer 40K Universe and space marines
Fine. Remember Ally McBeal? no? ok…
Ugachaka.
Can we just get a bathroom design where they are a wall of stalls with a urinal and toilet inside and the hand washing station is on the outside without a door blocking the path? I hate bathroom doors after washing hands, especially when they don’t have a way to open the doors without touching the handle. Just put the sinks outside the bathroom.
No one needs urinals.
Case in point: No one has one in their home.
That’s a bad argument. How many people have hundreds, maybe thousands of people using their toilet every hour? Urinals are made for high traffic areas, where large numbers of men need to pee, and they also save water by not needing to be flushed every time.
Home bathrooms are single-occupancy, plus most people don’t have the room. They’re definitely beneficial for higher volume places as add much more capacity for less space, and act as an “express lane” of sorts.
Ah but the toilet sitters do appreciate how much less urine is on the seats and around the bowl. I would have a urinal in my home if I was to remodel my bathroom. They are convenient.
If you splash urine all over the place when peeing you’re sitting wrong.
You can also just sit to pee, so that there’s less urine on the seats and around the bowl. No need for a urinal, which also has splash back.
I have been to places with this layout.
Private stalls. Sinks and hand washing open and visible to the hallway. Nobody feels threatrned or uncomfortable.
Nobody feels threatrned or uncomfortable
And that makes conservatives feel threatened and uncomfortable.
The parking lot is peak gender neutral restroom though. Less accommodating to women but I know a lot who still manage.
Why are americans so obsessed with toilets? Do they start the potty-training too early or too late?
It’s not all Americans, just one specific political party that happens to have gone completely batshit crazy.
It’s not even the majority of that party, it’s a very vocal minority.
Most people don’t give a shit. Literally or figuratively.
30% of America represents the majority. Out of that 30%, most are just going along with whatever because they’re dumb and watch media that validates their fears but if the story changed tomorrow they would let it go.
The remaining sliver of this group are the true fucking nutcases who post this kind of stuff like in OP’s image because they really do believe it. Because they are dumber than shit, they don’t think with language, they react to feelings and let their autopilot fill in the blanks and appear functional in society.
They are the absolute loudest and most energetic of every segment, and as such they get seen the most and influence the most people.
This is a broken system and we need help.
I would love to go back to not giving a shit but people can’t just mind their own fucking business so I keep getting into arguments about why does it matter if a trans person uses the bathroom they want to. Just leave people alone so they can shit in peace.
My only issue is when there are showers involved. But even then, homosexual people exist, so even that isn’t a hill I’m willing to die on.
It’s entirely a modern, “developed” world phenomenon where everything in the world is sexualized to the point that you can’t use the bathroom or shower around other people without feeling weird. That weird feeling is real, and you can’t just hand-wave it away, but it’s socially constructed. I think we should all remember that. There are currently and have been many times and places where people just don’t care nearly as much about each other’s bodies or being seen by others.
When you really think about it, it’s absolutely crazy. We have been wearing clothing for less than the last 100,000 years or so. A blink of an eye evolutionarily. And that was just cold environments. Before that, we had a 4.1-billion year unbroken chain of successful life that as far as we know, never wore clothes or felt shame going to the bathroom.
Nudist spaces (for example sauna) are relatively common in some parts of Europe. I don’t think it’s necessarily a western thing.
Yeah, it’s certainly irrational, but as you said, it’s very real. I don’t want people of the opposite sex looking at me naked (or even the same sex, but that’s less bad), and I’m sure they feel the same about me.
To me that sounds quite sad. Non sexual nudity is a unique experience it’s unfortunate that many will never be able to enjoy it or disassociate it from sexuality.
In Germany there are big and accepted nudist spaces. It was also quite the cool experience meeting strangers in a public sauna in Finland. It was such a peaceful environment, as everyone was literally exposing themselves and showing a certain vulnerability that we do not encounter otherwise.
Yeah if that is your hill you should be arguing for shower stalls anyway. Like you said nothing stopping anyone from perving in there as it is. Gender has nothing to do with it.
At least the US doesn’t charge money (in general) to the toilet. I found that to be far more disruptive.
The GoP needed a cultural political weapon. So they picked the weakest minority, gays and trans people. To use as a distractions, while they rob the public and destroy the country.
I know that the GoP politize the weird toilet obsession to use as a wedge (as they do with pretty much everything), but it feels like it has been a thing for much longer than that.
This isn’t about trans people specifically, but the very existence of gendered bathrooms dates back to hilariously sexist 1800s ideas about how men and women should only be allowed to coexist at home. No surprise that religious fundamentalists continue to weaponize private spaces against anyone that doesn’t fit their norms.
I was thinking about the very same thing yesterday and decided that men wanted to show their wieners to other men but not to women. I couldn’t find any other reason for gendered toilets😅
Culture war has been their go to strategy since at least the Nixon administration.
I’m sure all the gender stuff is fueled by the right, but what about that huge gap in the door where you can look people in the eyes as they shit?
Or the water level?
toilet stalls with large gaps is a financial decision. the gaps mean that the construction tolerances are more forgiving. they can be installed anywhere without much hassle. which reduces cost
If you know which set of genitals the person in the stall next to you has, you either voluntarily got in the glory-hole stall, or you’ve majorly invaded thier privacy.
Someone’s comment that I read elsewhere pointed out to me that this is a similar tactic that was used back in the day with white only bathrooms and non-white bathrooms.
History doesn’t repeat but it rhymes.
The GQP sees the world in very black and white boxes, if you don’t fit in one of those boxes, then you don’t count.
They create black and white boxes for express the purpose of having people that don’t fit.
there is an all gender bathroom at a business near me that has a picture of a male, female, and disabled person in a wheelchar on it.
i giggle every time i pass by it because i am handicapped gender.
What are your pronouns?
wheels/wheeled
ah yes, the 3 genders. Rectangle, triangle, and wheelchair
edit: a long pipe is also a gender I guess
It’s executing the woman and piping her standard output into the standard input of the man with a wheelchair…
woman… piping her standard output into… the man
I thought that usually went the other way around…
not when I get involved >:3
my handicap has me use a cane to get around (i dont use wheels anymore), so the pipe gender speaks to me.
people forget about long pipe gender, it’s tragic tbh
I identify as the dividing wall between bathroom stalls.
Can we stop trying to rename things, it’s not a long pipe, or danger pipe, it’s just a snake.
But it’s been pipe since 1973
I’m only short pipe gender 😢
That can’t be a wheelchair, the wheel doesn’t form a full circle. It’s either a wheelchair with an extremely bumpy ride, or a person with a badly misshapen leg.
Fancy rocking chair
Finally a restroom for string beans!
I got a cool one near me in a very red state that is the typical male female then a half half and a last alien figure that reads “whatever just wash your hands”. Best take I’ve seen so far for anyone sane.
At a local seafood restaurant that I love, it’s the same sign but with merpeople instead of aliens.
I move that we encourage more restaurants to adopt these signs!
Also, mine is in Texas, albeit in a blue city.
Mine is a strangely people jewel in the middle of Arkansas. We are legion!
Wait till she finds out her bathroom at home is also coed…
till
\sigh
What’s wrong with till?
nothing
The last Biden mandate was that every home would have a gender inclusive restroom, and every home has one by default. Lol
By god, he did it! Incredible!
Is the parking lot gendered?
I love the unisex bathrooms at the Kansas City airport!
Floor to ceiling stalls that I don’t have to dance around in to open and close the doors. Large open spaces to move between stalls and the sinks.
Sure, the open stall count and lights aren’t reliable and the workmanship on the sinks and soap dispensers is pretty crummy, but the layout and convenience are fantastic!
And it’s not like there are only unisex bathrooms there. It’s easy to choose another one if you prefer.
But why bother. They’re more private than most other public bathrooms in the US. 🤷🏻♀️
I fly through KC often and the gender neutral bathrooms are right past security, so I go in there nearly every time to at least wash my hands. There used to be a tiny jolt of surprise when I saw a man in there just because I’ve been so conditioned against seeing that for over 30 years, but that’s gone away because why tf do I care who sees me wash my hands?!
I hadn’t considered how much space you can save, how much better you can plan for traffic, by not having 2 separate areas.
Not to mention balancing the demand, more toilets instead of urinals, and more privacy.
Not to mention that they are inclusive just by their design.
Airports are infrastructure buildings. This is like seeing a billboard telling you not to hatecrime gay people and boycotting the highway.
Wait, gay people are allowed to use highways? Next you’ll be saying gay trash is mixed with my trash in the truck. My pearls have been clutched so hard they’re powder.
Family bathrooms are also great. Once flew with my intellectually disabled sister who fucking fingerpainted a rest stop stall on a previous trip when my mother broke her arm chasing her to the bathroom and she was left to her own devices. This time I brought gloves and wet wipes and there was a little suite kinda thing. I didn’t need the child size toilet or the breastfeeding couch but the nice big accessible area around the adult toilet was good to have. She wasn’t constipated that time so I didn’t have to stop her from digging it out manually again but man; if I’d had to I totally could’ve! 10/10 would use a family bathroom again.
Disabled bathrooms are also spacious, to allow wheelchair users easy access.
Maybe we should respect people as humans and not have a max efficiency, lowest cost design where people shit and piss at a trough like fucking cattle. What if the real problem always was that capitalists treat people like animals who dont deserve privacy. What if from the get-go we had designed public spaces to have many fully private bathrooms and allowed people to potty in privacy instead of trying to save money? What would the world look like if we asked the right questions?
to be fair, communal bathrooms were more common before capitalism.
The bathroom in my house is all genders
Oh Hell noo ☝️. I will never visit your house. And if I ever do I will piss all over your front yard before I set foot in your house.
You mean like a dog?
Would that be a female or male dog? I assume the yard is gender segregated.
Oh Hell noo ☝️. I will never step on your grass. And if I ever do I will piss all over your street before I set foot in your yard.
Male Street or female street?
What do I do if my street is agender?
“But my house doesn’t have creeps in it.”
“You did just say you will piss all over the airport parking lot.”
Hopefully you don’t live in a red state. They’ll try to.tske your kids for that one
i bet he has a gender neutral bathroom in his house.
Judging by her name “Jan” she is a woman.
Also her Twitter profile makes it pretty clear that she is a woman and an idiot (or a troll)
we don’t read anymore, just react
Jan “Yan” is the same as John in much of the world. though I’m betting this person is from the states, probably a red one.
